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Old 06-20-2012, 02:46 PM
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Wow, that is a lot of eye candy right there!

Holy crap, does that thing have a tuning eye in the changer compartment?
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:06 PM
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... Holy crap, does that thing have a tuning eye in the changer compartment?
That's used for the recording level when cutting a record.

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Old 06-20-2012, 07:28 PM
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What can go wrong with the cutting heads used in those old record cutters? I read a post in another VK forum recently in which a member whose family owned a Wilcox-Gay "Recordio" radio/record cutter said the cartridge in the record cutter "burned out", and a replacement could not be found. Was that part something special, even when these units were new in the (I'm guessing) '30s-40s? What if anything can burn out in them that will render the record cutter unusable? I'm guessing that cartridge had rather high voltage across it and was reasonably well insulated when it was new, but over time, as the insulation began to wear out and deteriorate, the voltage would arc across the cartridge's connection terminals (or even inside the cartridge itself), damaging the cartridge in an instant. Or did these cartridges just deteriorate on their own over time, to the point where the output of the cartridge, which I am guessing is crystal (not unlike the cheap crystal phonograph cartridges found in kids' phonos of the '50s), just dwindled down to zero or close to it?

BTW, I used the turntable and tone arm (the latter containing a cheap crystal pickup) from an old, beat up kids' phono from the 1950s-early sixties in a Part 15 AM radio station I had for a short time in the early 1970s, before I got my ham radio license. I removed the amplifier and connected the cartridge directly to one input of a 4-channel microphone mixer. It worked well as far as being able to drive the transmitter (a 3-tube Lafayette Radio KT195 "wireless broadcaster") well enough to be heard on the pipsqueak output signal, fed to a 10-foot length of wire in my basement. I doubt, however, if I'd have had nearly as good results had I used a turntable with a magnetic or other type of cartridge that ordinarily requires the use of a preamplifier stage ahead of it, to give the next stage enough signal to work with.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:36 PM
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That was probably my post. Dad tried for several years to find a replacement cutting head for his Recordio.

A friend of mine that passed on a few years ago had a really nice record cutting machine, and he had the cutting head rewound twice during the time I knew him.

I'd like to aquire a Recordio today, now that I could easily work on it.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:05 PM
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That was probably my post. Dad tried for several years to find a replacement cutting head for his Recordio.

A friend of mine that passed on a few years ago had a really nice record cutting machine, and he had the cutting head rewound twice during the time I knew him.

I'd like to aquire a Recordio today, now that I could easily work on it.


I think you just answered one of my questions: what may have burned out in the record cutter head on your dad's Recordio. It must have been a coil, if his was anything like your friend's record cutter. I guess those coils had a habit of burning out, depending on how much the record cutter was used. The one in your dad's Recordio, as I mentioned, must have been a very special type of part if he searched for several years (with no luck) to find a replacement. Strange. I thought those cutting heads were pretty much all alike, with one universal part fitting just about any type of record cutter available at the time.

Keep your eyes open on eBay and CL if you are looking for another Recordio. I'm sure they turn up on either site now and then.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:15 PM
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For Holmesuser01:

I saw a W/G Recordio on eBay just a minute or so ago. Search the eBay site using keyword "wilcox-gay" to see the listings. There is at least one listing for a portable version of the unit. There are also several listings for discs recorded on these machines.
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Thanks for the heads-up on the eGray listing. I'll watch it.

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Old 06-24-2012, 06:49 AM
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Old 06-26-2012, 04:37 PM
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Blonde Philco (Electrostatic satellite spkrs + center-channel LF drvr) , early 60s.
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:21 PM
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Blonde Philco (Electrostatic satellite spkrs + center-channel LF drvr) , early 60s.
Interesting. I've never seen one of these!
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Blonde Philco (Electrostatic satellite spkrs + center-channel LF drvr) , early 60s.
Very cool! Do the satellites work?

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Can we see a pic of the whole thing?? I love console Hi-Fi. I have a '62 Motorola 3 channel and LOVE it http://videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=169924
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:43 AM
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That's one of my favorite Moto's!

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Philico's ESL Satellites either sit in little lower spaces &
fire thru cream grille fabric doors or expand outward w/
supplied extender cables. (note 12" common woofer
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:06 PM
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I have a '62 Motorola 3 channel
Does your Motorola have same bevelled grilles/pilasters as this one ?

Edit: Just caught the link to your model: Different Cabinet , but same
massive 3 ch PP 6V6 chassis and multiple speaker complement !
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