The last tv set Made in U.S.A./the influece of Asian made tv sets

[centralradio]

Originally Posted by KentTeffeteller

Most professional TV repair technicians would heavily disagree with you too. Most of these repair technicians chose Zenith for many years as their best set reliability wise and their easiest serviced set. And RCA also were pretty serviceman friendly. Sony sets had very expensive spare parts, difficult support from Sony, and much more difficult to repair back in the day, compared to most other set makers. davet753's perspective agrees with most every veteran repair technician I have known of. Zenith, RCA, and several other major American brands of sets had very good manufacturer support on training technicians, spare parts availability, technical support, etc.

I agree with you.My friend who is going to be 98 years young this month which I used his shop's name for my user name serviced Zenith sets for over 40 plus years and said they were the best sets made.He also serviced Sylvania,RCA to name a couple of US made TV sets he serviced in his shop.He was not a fan of the Japanese sets.He will kill me over what I said earlier about the US sets..LOL......................

My late friend fixed Sony ,Panasonic and other Japanese sets across town in his shop.

There was another shop in town that fixed Magnavox but I did not know him good.The same goes for a Motorola/Quasar shop in town too that I did not know him good..

[DavGoodlin]

Originally Posted by mrjukebox160

Here ya go.

Good tangent there! Zenith and some others like Fisher needed long-lived tubes for their high-fidelity console "stereos", so they went to Amperex and Mullard for tubes

This applies to some of the TV's too. A good example is the 6EH7, 6GJ7 and other frame-grid tubes made in Europe that Zenith, RCA, Motorola and others used. Japan supplied some tubes to manufacturers in the 1960s as well.

[KentTeffeteller]

Originally Posted by DavGoodlin

Good tangent there! Zenith and some others like Fisher needed long-lived tubes for their high-fidelity console "stereos", so they went to Amperex and Mullard for tubes

This applies to some of the TV's too. A good example is the 6EH7, 6GJ7 and other frame-grid tubes made in Europe that Zenith, RCA, Motorola and others used. Japan supplied some tubes to manufacturers in the 1960s as well.

It wasn't as much long life as it was low noise and hum. Some tube types were European only for the best performance and lowest noise/hum, some of the USA counterparts had industrial/military versions for that purpose, often different types.

[Robert Grant]

I see in some stores (even a very famous chain) new "Element" branded flat panel sets that claim to be "Made in USA".

[mrjukebox160]

https://www.techwalla.com/articles/l...ade-in-america

[Captainclock]

Speaking of Japanese Rats nest wiring, but have you ever seen the inside of an old Pioneer or Kenwood-TRIO or Sony Tube powered Stereo Receiver or Amplifier or Tuner? Those things are a nightmare when it comes to having to replace capacitors or resistors or having to replace toasty wiring...

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by Captainclock

Speaking of Japanese Rats nest wiring, but have you ever seen the inside of an old Pioneer or Kenwood-TRIO or Sony Tube powered Stereo Receiver or Amplifier or Tuner? Those things are a nightmare when it comes to having to replace capacitors or resistors or having to replace toasty wiring...

I wish I could see the inside of one of those. There are a lot more domestic ones in the US, but with the way the audiophools hunt that gear even the domestic stuff is hard to find and usually priced outside of sanity...

If you end up with tube audio gear that you can't fix please give someone a chance to buy it before E-wasting it.

[KentTeffeteller]

Originally Posted by Captainclock

Speaking of Japanese Rats nest wiring, but have you ever seen the inside of an old Pioneer or Kenwood-TRIO or Sony Tube powered Stereo Receiver or Amplifier or Tuner? Those things are a nightmare when it comes to having to replace capacitors or resistors or having to replace toasty wiring...

Pioneer and Trio-Kenwood made tube receivers. Sony didn't make one or didn't offer one in the USA until the TA 1120 integrated of 1965, a silicon transistorized amplifier and the 1967 STR 6120 receiver, the best receiver Sony ever made. Are the Fisher 500C. 800C, or the HH Scott equivalent any harder to repair than a Pioneer or Trio-Kenwood or Sansui tube equivalent model?. I suspect no worse once you understand their quirks and differences, which is the USA tube equivalent.

[davet753]

There were plenty of pain in the a** TV sets imported here. I usually hated working on Sony stuff. I remember the parts were sky high (if you could find them), tech support was almost non-existant, and they had some weird engineering sometimes.

I was an authorized service center for Samsung and Goldstar in the late 80's/early 90's. You want to talk about crap, they turned out plenty of it in those days.

RCA, Phillips, and Zenith designed and built some lemon's from time to time, but until the early 90's they were as good or better than most of the imports. The downfall of the television industry in America had far more to do with consumer pricing and corporate profitability than quality.

[Telecolor 3007]

"Samsung" tv sets imported in Romania before 1996-1997 were pretty good. Some worked for 18 years or more!

[andy]

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[waltchan]

The very-last "Assembled in USA" CRT TV was the 2005 Toshiba 34HF85 34" HDTV, assembled by Orion America in Princeton, IN.

http://www.indianaeconomicdigest.net...rticleID=26684

Orion America was a subsidiary (now Sansui Sales) of Orion Electric Co., Japan. Sansui Sales USA is now a private company and no longer owned by Orion. They used to build a bunch of Emerson TV and VCRs back in early-90s.

[Telecolor 3007]

But in terms of the minimal period in whic the tv set runded without needing repairs, in the yeard 1974-1982 which where better: Japanese brands or U.S.A. brands?

[AlanInSitges]

I think it depends on the brand. Zeniths of that era were very reliable, and easily repaired when needed. But that was the same era that Matsushita took over Quasar from Motorola and those second-generation Works in the Drawer sets with the SuperModule were fantastic.

[Electronic M]

Quite right on the Zeniths. I've seen many CCII and system 3 sets still in their original homes still chugging away good as new as the possessions of the owners they outlived were being sold off around them...

Some Sonys were long-lived (mostly small screen sets that didn't burn through their cathode material as fast).

Both countries had their crap and their champs the difference mostly came down to brand and sometimes chassis.