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Old 05-07-2018, 11:21 AM
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A man started smoking at 1:54, so that was as far as I got.
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:28 PM
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Interesting how they called PCBs a "manufacturing shortcut."

Granted, printed circuit boards were not very good at first. And, I know Zenith really pushed their "handcrafted" approach.
Zenith made tube type PC board radios in the mid 60's. Seemed like only one year. The boards were very poor quality were heat sensitive. The first Royal 500's with PC board construction were alright.
Any radio collectors have or seen the early 40's Zenith radios that have the molded bakelite chassis. the chassis was mounted upside down in the cabinet and it was rather trouble-prone. It didn't do Zenith's reputation any good!
As I understood, they were calling them back to the factory.
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Zenith made tube type PC board radios in the mid 60's. Seemed like only one year. The boards were very poor quality were heat sensitive. The first Royal 500's with PC board construction were alright.
Any radio collectors have or seen the early 40's Zenith radios that have the molded bakelite chassis. the chassis was mounted upside down in the cabinet and it was rather trouble-prone. It didn't do Zenith's reputation any good!
As I understood, they were calling them back to the factory.
I has one of those but it works, a 1939 model 6D414 and the upside-down tube are not loctals either
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A man started smoking at 1:54, so that was as far as I got.
The dude behind him had lit up by 1:39. No need to push tobacco anymore, the addiction just spills from one generation to the next and never really lets go.

0:57 What, was that her first time outdoors?

5:14 Who is he talking to?

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Old 05-07-2018, 02:42 PM
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Zenith made tube type PC board radios in the mid 60's. Seemed like only one year. The boards were very poor quality were heat sensitive. The first Royal 500's with PC board construction were alright.
Any radio collectors have or seen the early 40's Zenith radios that have the molded bakelite chassis. the chassis was mounted upside down in the cabinet and it was rather trouble-prone. It didn't do Zenith's reputation any good!
As I understood, they were calling them back to the factory.
I had an AA5 PCB Zenith aside from the bad lytic the thing still worked fine as found...Possibly the easiest recap I've done...Was a good set while I kept it.

As a very light smoker, I can't help but laugh at the comedic overreactions of anti-tobacco folks...There comes a point where they go so far as to become a spoof of themselves.
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Old 05-08-2018, 10:07 AM
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As a very light smoker, I can't help but laugh at the comedic overreactions of anti-tobacco folks...There comes a point where they go so far as to become a spoof of themselves.
Me too. I was making a joke... I watched the whole thing, enjoyed it and shared it.

Thanks for posting Zeno.
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0:57 What, was that her first time outdoors?
Now that was funny!
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Now that was funny!
Yes, freakin' hilarious! I noticed that too - but I'm so used to how these films were made and the outrageous statements made for drama. Some of my favorite sit-coms of the era had some cringe-worthy moments, probably why I keep them to myself. Thanks Zeno!!!

I was 4 when this film was probably made and my grandparents in Florida had a 23XC38 Zenith in Italian Provincial (I'm pretty damned sure, orange-lit channel numbers on the banana-knobs, vol-color-hue, horizontally below) so I KNEW the silly, preening NBC peacock was really in color thanks to both WPTV-5 and WSVN-7. Sure back then, everyone smoked and we even laughed at the cig commercials like Benson and Hedges and Doral!

It would be 4 years until my Grandma up here traded in the CTC5 (no, I never saw it on) for a 1971 25V chromacolor (12B14C50 - usually on a game show) , then my dad took the plunge 6 months later on a discounted 23V in a half plastic front dark cabinet (12B14C52). We were a 3-Gen Zenith family, but nobody I knew had the deluxe or SC models seen in this film.

My cousins up the hill and clear of the forest had a Zenith roundie 24NC31 that pulled in all the Philly UHF from the day they moved there. They had cartoons in color and my Aunt had Soul Train, Bandstand and Steel Pier in color. She ignored soaps.
Meanwhile our 6 years newer CC only got the 4 VHFs from the JFD "non-combo of a roof antenna" until a 4-bay bowtie and amp was added to our rig. What did the VHF channels have at that time? Soaps and talk shows, sucky for a kid getting home from school. Probably why I got aluminum fever early, I just KNEW our new Zenith was NOT the issue.
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I'm curios if those chassies where relaible as they say.
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:00 PM
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I'm curios if those chassies where relaible as they say.
Longest lasting best describes it. Hand wired sets have a massive steel
chassis thats like a heat sink. They almost never dry up like PCB chassis
do. You almost never get bad connections, bad tube sockets etc. As for
reliability they were probably a little better due to running cooler.
Some PCB sets were so bad when old if you pull out the hoz output
tube the socket starts to come out too ! And you cant resolder them
right so you need to use a new socket & wires.

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Old 06-04-2018, 12:26 PM
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I'm curios if those chassies where relaible as they say.
I've bought several color Zeniths in the last few years from that era that with all original caps (but some tubes changed) that still produced a watchable picture...Heck even Zenith's first color roundy from 1962 that I got a few years ago was somewhat watchable as found.

Zenith also engineered a lot of tolerance for failure into their tube TVs...They can have several parts bad and still work acceptably (albeit below their as new performance).
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Old 06-04-2018, 01:58 PM
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So they where made to last.
I have an tube radio with P.C.B. and on the audio P.C.B. I got problems (on radio P.C.B. no, but there isn't so much heat).
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The thought just struck me to wonder where this kind of film was shown. I'm guessing not on TV, but as part of a service providing free 16mm films to social and church groups. I wonder what other venues?
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Old 06-04-2018, 02:40 PM
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The thought just struck me to wonder where this kind of film was shown. I'm guessing not on TV, but as part of a service providing free 16mm films to social and church groups. I wonder what other venues?
Maybe intermission at the passion pit ? Also they had a UHF in
Chicago so I bet $100 it played there.

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