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Old 05-15-2016, 06:29 PM
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Unknown IO camera, presumably East German?

Good evening,

those who know many makes of IO cameras may take a look at
https://vimeo.com/149254145
at 21:06 and next shot, 58:01, 58:47 and 59:24:

Any idea about this camera model?

If no one can recognize it otherwise: I suspect this is the last hurray of East German broadcast TV cameras, called FUK 5 or QP 53, of which I could not find any photos so far. The pictures of these cameras are really good (I could see some of this video elsewhere, where it had not been so terribly compressed as in this Vimeo upload).

The other IO cameras in this compilation, with the characteristic fan and side handlings on the top, are the earlier FUK 2 / QP 52, giving somewhat grainy pictures. No idea about the Vidicon handheld, but I think it's safe to assume that it is as well a VEB Werk für Fernsehelektronik or VEB Studiotechnik Berlin (studio equipment had been outsourced from WF to this new company at some point) product, kind of an offshoot of their line of industrial cameras.

That whole video is a compilation from the early B&W editions of a show called "Ein Kessel Buntes" (venue is the old Friedrichstadtpalast in Berlin that due to a rapid dilapidation had to be closed in 1980 and torn down afterwards). Remarkable are the segments 45:45-49:30, 1:03:56-1:08:03 and 1:16:35-1:33:03 (here until 1:21:30 with cameras prominently appearing in vision), shot with Marconi Mark VII: It appears that the Mark VII have indeed been used in the dedicated monochrome mode of these cameras. It was a one-off, and as such the last edition of this show broadcast in B&W. Thus I suspect that the plan was to broadcast already this one in colour and some delay in the equipment upgrading came into the way.

In fact the appearance of Mireille Mathieu has elsewhere been uploaded in colour – but in this colour version she suddenly helds a Gefell handset. Thus I suspect this colour version is a rehearsal recording.
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HI,

sorry I don't recognize it, I saw the Mk7s OK but your unknown one is hard to see clearly.

In exchange here is one of mine I would like to know more about, all I know is it was supposedly made in Warsaw??
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Sennheiser microphones smuggled across border.
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:16 PM
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but your unknown one is hard to see clearly
Hello,

finally Getty Images came to the rescue. Here's their photo of what I believe is the FUK 5:
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-544638605

I now hope that I can find out more at a later point, since I just discovered where the historical collection of WF ended up. In fact it would almost have been dumped when the premise had been cleared in 2009. But it has been preserved almost at last minute, also all the documentation they state, and for starters they at least have a FUK 3 camera head:
http://industriesalon.de/de/sammlung/wf-sammlung


Perhaps some more reflection of TV history in the Getty Images collection is of interest as well:

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-548140465
The broadcasting studio area (as opposed to the production studios that still exist) at Adlershof. All the buildings in this photo have been demolished since.

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-542426521
News screenshot from 1970.

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-549674389
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-549674379
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-549674367
Not just West-German politicians and a West-German KCU 40 but also a West-German ENG crew, already in 1987.

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-544204603
Not just the Puhdys but also a Mk7 in action.

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-544618953
Again a Mk7, this time at Chemnitz (back then Karl-Marx-Stadt), in this building:
http://www.planet-franken-online.de/...turpalast.html

And again at Berlin...
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-544302193

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-548163487
Khrushchev and, I guess, Pye.

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/picture...hoto-544568401
Ulbricht in the studio (note the date!) with, it seems, TV boss Adameck checking the picture himself (he stayed in office until November 1989, for a full 35 years, something not seen at any other European TV station).

...and so on. Obviously much more to discover there, of course from other TV stations as well.


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In exchange here is one of mine I would like to know more about, all I know is it was supposedly made in Warsaw??
Sorry, not the faintest idea.


But at least something to your Fernseh GmbH list: Superorthikon is the German term for the IO tube.

And the KC4P was in fact the General Electric PE-350. The descriptions of the situation I know sound pretty hyped, but it seems that the first step of Fernseh GmbH into the colour camera world, the KC33 with three 3'' IO tubes, failed because registration was unmanageable. Thus the camera had been refused by TV stations and instead the Philips LDK-3 got the honour of starting colour TV in Germany.

Of course it was not an acceptable situation for Fernseh GmbH to have no Plumbicon colour camera in its portfolio. Thus they offered the PE-350 as "KC4P" (which, it seems, was quite liked by German TV stations, at least the images are pretty good) until they finally achived a break-through with their very own KCU 40.


And any pictures of Soviet cameras? For starters a KT-132 taken by another KT-132, at 3:20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX0WRuS5Pmg

Probably needs an explanation: This was a youth magazine, launched in September 1989, weeks before the collapse of "real existierender Sozialismus". The first three minutes are tune-up, thus the clock paraphrase; the recording starts just moments to late, otherwise it would have started with the hard switch from test card to black, then after a few seconds this fading up. The Chyrons also give a reference for the copy degration; the original output of the KT-132's was noticeably better (sharper and no noise).

After 31 Dec 1991 Elf 99 became a production company and continued its magazine until 1993 or even 1994 on RTL Plus, from the original control room and, of course, with the KT-132's. So live broadcasting from Adlershof continued for another two years.

In the process of the final wind-up some of the Soviet camera chains (and maybe other video equipment) have been given away to Latvia and/or Lithuania for free.


So much for this time, good night!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjKUEL9Vz2k

(What, not even the extra video tape with the lullaby can compensate for the lack of a young girl? Ok, then the student from Budapest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W7k4PYpv0Y )
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