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Old 09-12-2016, 05:49 PM
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Admiral record changer help

Please excuse me for being a noob when it comes to phono's, but my 1963 Admiral record changer needs a new needle. I looked on the V-M Audio Enthusiasts page, and I saw a bunch of needles and cartridges. They all looked the same. I intend to play new records on this thing, and I want it to sound good, and not destroy my records.
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You need to find the make and model of the cart to find the styli. 70's and later carts almost always are labeled, but earlier ones can be spotty.
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Old 09-18-2016, 09:27 PM
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I got the Admiral record changer cleaned up tonight, and I finally figured out how to use it. The problem is that it sounds horrible. Almost no high end and there is almost no left channel. I got a better picture of the underside of the tone arm, so hopefully somebody can help me find the right cartridge and needle.
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Old 09-18-2016, 09:28 PM
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Here is the clean record changer.
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Old 09-18-2016, 10:40 PM
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Do you know the model of the Hi-Fi / Stereo ? It looks to be a fairly common ceramic cartridge and needle for back then. I could look up the Sam's on it, if you have some numbers.
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Here ya go. Good news y'all! I've been listening to some records to see if the changer would work without assistance, and it did! It changed from ELO to Loggins and Messina with no problem.
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:28 PM
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From what I found your changer is a RC7 series. It's listed in sam's folder 529-3. There are over ten different cartridges used in that series. If you can find the cartridge number, we could find the correct neddle.
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Old 09-18-2016, 11:36 PM
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Well my record finished playing, and when I went to put it back in the sleeve, I noticed a mysterious sticker behind the tonearm.
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Also, I got a better picture of the needle and cartridge.
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Old 09-19-2016, 12:49 AM
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I couldn't find any Admiral numbers that match your cartridge. Your cartridge number matches closer to the Astatic numbering code, N41 SD and the matches your picture.
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Thanks for all the help. I'm going to get a NOS Astatic N41SD, but I still don't know what cartridge to get. I assume I'll need both to make it sound really good?
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Old 09-19-2016, 07:42 PM
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If you get another Astatic, the cartridge number is 17d. It's a ceramic 3 gram, 350 millivovlt type. The needle is N41-sd. the sd denotes diamond and saphire. The frequency response is 20 - 20kHz.

http://www.canadianastatic.com/uploa..._reference.pdf

I used a old Zenith phono cross ref to find the Astatic number then googled Astatic.
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Thanks, that's what I needed to know. I looked on the VM audio site, and the closest I could find was an Astatic 17, not, 17D. Do you think it will fit? Like I said, I'm very new to phonographs, and I don't really know much. But I'm always learning.
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Old 09-20-2016, 12:17 AM
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If you found an Astatic 17, that's great. It'll work fine.
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Old 09-20-2016, 02:59 PM
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My 1964 Admiral console has the same record changer. The cart was a bit different than TUD's, a Sonotone 9t and its a great match to the preamp circuit which uses a 6AY11. Unfortunately the goofy stylus pops off the cart sometimes. My tire is a bit worn and it won't change records.

One of my Motorola consoles has the Astatic 17, a fine choice.
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