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Old 04-02-2018, 07:37 AM
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A intresting, bud sad article. Installing a tv antena in Bucharest, year 1957

From newspaper "Informaţia Bucureştiului" ("The information of Bucharest") - since 22nd of Dec. 1989 "Libertatea" ("The Freedoom"), year IV, no. 1139, Saturday 23 the of May 1957, page 2, an article about tv antenas intallation.
The article sayes "A new speciality

The tv antenas are starting to enter in the image of the city. In the same time, a new kind of job appeared: tv tehcnicians, meaning specialists in istalling, checking and reparing apparates (devices) with screen.
Our image is taken from the roof of the house from no. 5 [V.A.] Ureche Street, where 2 days ago a tv set was installed. The one who is installing the antena is technician Valeriu Peterescu, from the team of specialists of "Radioprogres" craftsmen cooperative".

The 1st public broadcasting of the Romanian television was less then half of year before, 31st Dec. 1956/1st of Jan. 1957 and acording to statistics (I don't know when they made them) there where 2,588 people possesing a tv set in Bucharest (13,831 in 1958... by 1963 I think there where around 100,000). A tv was very expensive in the begening, a small "Rekord" costing 4,488 Romanian Lei ("Lions") in Feb. of 1957. Wages (sallaries) in Feb. 1957: 220 Lei (minimal - 350 starting from 1st of May), 619 Lei (avarage).

Up untill around 1994-1995, "Libertatea" (an Bucharest issued newspaper) had a heading called "Informaţia Bucureştiului" when talking about Bucharest... in the memory of old days.



The article is sad if you compare the 2 maps. A park is now there because the street was wiped out during the '80's to make room for the plans of the horrible couple. The street was going from near the point where Bogan Petriceicu Haşdeu (Hashdeu) Street meet the qauy of Dâmboviţa and went down to Izvor (Water Spring) Street.
1973: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CTGBDSbdxZ...anus+Izvor.jpg

And now: https://www.google.ro/maps/place/Str...41!4d26.084178
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:59 AM
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From newspaper "Informaţia Bucureştiului" ("The information of Bucharest") - since 22nd of Dec. 1989 "Libertatea" ("The Freedoom"), year IV, no. 1139, Saturday 23 the of May 1957, page 2, an article about tv antenas intallation.
The article sayes "A new speciality

The tv antenas are starting to enter in the image of the city. In the same time, a new kind of job appeared: tv tehcnicians, meaning specialist in istalling, checking and reparing apparates (devices) with screen.
Our image is taken from the roof of the house from no. 5 [V.A.] Ureche Street, where 2 days ago a tv set was installed. The one who is installing the antena is technician Valeriu Peterescu, from the team of specialists of "Radioprogres" craftsmen cooperative".

The 1st public broadcasting of the Romanian television was less then half of year before, 31st Dec. 1956/1st of Jan. 1957 and acording to statistics (I don't know when they made them) there where 2,588 people possesing a tv set in Bucharest (13,831 in 1958... by 1963 I think there where around 100,000). A tv was very expensive in the begening, a small "Rekord" costing 4,488 Romanian Lei ("Lions") in Feb. of 1957. Wages (sallaries) in Feb. 1957: 220 Lei (minimal - 350 starting from 1st of May), 619 Lei (avarage).

Up untill around 1994-1995, "Libertatea" (an Bucharest issued newspaper) had a heading called "Informaţia Bucureştiului" when talking about Bucharest... in the memory of old days.



The article is sad if you compare the 2 maps. A park is now there because the street was wiped out during the '80's to make room for the plans of the horrible couple. The street was going from near the point where Bogan Petriceicu Haşdeu (Hashdeu) Street meet the qauy of Dâmboviţa and went down to Izvor (Water Spring) Street.
1973: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CTGBDSbdxZ...anus+Izvor.jpg

And now: https://www.google.ro/maps/place/Str...41!4d26.084178
I think the sadness referred to is the building the antenna was installed on is no longer standing.
Look at the craziness going on now. The city, I lived in for 56 years got rid of streetcars in 1958. Now they're spending millions building a new short route streetcar line. I guess that's progress!
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Old 04-04-2018, 04:57 PM
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I think the sadness referred to is the building the antenna was installed on is no longer standing.
Look at the craziness going on now. The city, I lived in for 56 years got rid of streetcars in 1958. Now they're spending millions building a new short route streetcar line. I guess that's progress!
Detroit is doing the same thing. GM forced the last streetcar line on Woodward to close in 1956. The equipment was all sent to Mexico where it was in use into the 80s.

Then the just recently built and opened the Q-Line, a streetcar that, lo and behold, follows the same damn routing as the old Woodward streetcar line. Stupidity.
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Old 04-04-2018, 05:46 PM
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Rio de Janeiro got rid of the streetcars in 1963 ( which I and many other people think was a pretty stupid decision ) and four years ago, for the World Cup they spent millions building a shorter route modern version that goes through downtown.

By the way: many of the original street cars Rio de Janeiro had in the 50's are now... in the United States. Why? Because when they were put out of commission, the stupid authorities started to destroy them. Since they were built in the USA, American street car enthusiasts stopped the destruction by buying them and bringing them back to America.
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Milwaukee, Wisconsin!
I heard they sold the streetcars to some south or central American country.
They ran the trolley buses until around 1963. IIRC, the same thing happened to them.
I didn't start driving a car until 1964, long after these modes of transportation were gone.
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Hippie-fairy-tale-nonsense.

The loss of the much romanticized street car was mourned by no one. For cripes sake it runs on a fixed route that cannot be altered without millions of dollars in infrastructure tear ups. (Unlike a bus that can change routes everyday for $.00) They're being brought back as curiosities because developers have purchased every piece of real estate within walking distance of a stop, then they finance guilt-campaigns so that tax-payers will fund their reconstruction. They're a gimmick that will never be a serious part of a mass transit strategy, especially not in a horizontally oriented modern city.
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Most towns over population 10,000 size in PA had streetcars.

Some civic minded-folks have made over some busses to look like them complete with bad ride quality and rattles, but routes are still confined to post-industrial urban areas where concentrated populations live without stores-jobs.
Getting them out to the suburbs where all the service jobs are seems to be the only thing accomplished by our regional transit companies. These downtowns are dead zones except where they can re-invent themselves as tourist destinations.

But without the easily-found park-and-ride lots and light rail Maryland has, the busses and fake-trolleys are actually a detraction to tourists in PA. If not for Amtrak, were screwed for mass transit. Europe's rail networks make most of the US look isolated.

We can thank General Motors and the Grumman body works for the bus system in these towns today, a limited mass-transit system barely worth the subsidy it gets..
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The basis for the idea that GM and others "killed the streetcar" comes largely from testimony before the U.S. Senate by antitrust lawyer Bradford C. Snell. In 1974, when smog had nearly consumed Los Angeles, Snell argued that "General Motors and allied highway interests acquired the local transit companies, scrapped the pollution-free electric trains, tore down the power transmission lines, ripped up the tracks, and placed GM motor buses on already congested LA streets."

This accusation, however, ignores fundamental problems that the streetcar system in Los Angeles had been facing for years. The dirty secret about the streetcar lines: they were wildly unprofitable and were quickly losing riders. In Transport of Delight, Jonathan Richmond points out that the Pacific Electric line managed to turn a profit in only two years between 1923 and the end of World War II. Meanwhile, between 1945 and 1951, the number of riders carried each year fell by nearly 80 million.

Cheaper to operate and requiring less maintenance, buses began phasing out the streetcars very early. In 1926, 15 percent of the total miles traveled by Pacific Electric riders was along bus routes; that number would more than double by 1939.


By the time that National City Lines entered the picture, the dismantling of the streetcar system was well underway. As The Guardian puts it, "one can confidently accuse General Motors and their National City Lines of nothing worse than scheming to profit from a trend already in motion."
This was the case in LA, and virtually anywhere else they were used. And if you're trying to kill mass transit and promote the automobile, why give the streetcars to Mexico? They drive cars as well.
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