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Old 02-20-2016, 11:59 PM
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I had an broadcast engineer friend working at BBC Television Centre who did not possess a TV. One day he was visited at his door after it was determined from records that he did not have a TV license. The inspector asked him why?

My friend told me that he replied it was because he did not have a TV set. He further asked if he was required to have a dog license if he did not have a dog?
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Old 02-21-2016, 07:41 AM
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Yes the licence cops are well known for hassling people who don't watch or record live TV. If you watch TV programs on you-tube, netflix or catch up services on BBC I-player, ITV hub, channel 4 on demand etc you don't need a TV licence, but they will still assume you watch live TV. You have to try & convince the judge that that you don't watch live TV, you have to sort of prove your innocence not them prove you guilty. & of course in the UK you have no right to remain silent..
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Old 02-21-2016, 10:10 PM
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..you get a criminal record so cannot have visa free travel ..
It's true

A Londoner once applied for a visa at Australia House
The first thing they asked him was
"Do you have a criminal record?"
to which he replied
"I didn't know it was still a requirement!"
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Old 02-22-2016, 12:41 PM
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It's true

A Londoner once applied for a visa at Australia House
The first thing they asked him was
"Do you have a criminal record?"
to which he replied
"I didn't know it was still a requirement!"
It took me a while to remember that Australia was once Brittans' penal colony, and get that joke.
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:23 AM
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..if you get caught .. you get a criminal record ..
That is interesting though:
Who'd have thought they'd be so Machiavellian to turn you into a Felon
for skipping an outdated Socialist entertainment tax that funds - of all things -
a mere television network--one of thousands of choices in today's saturated digital media.
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Old 02-23-2016, 01:26 PM
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I can imagine the states PBS going out and shake up its viewer for more support.

Years ago when first I heard about UK TV licence .I was shocked when I read about people getting busted over watching TV and the first thing came to mind is corrupt dictatorship but as I read on and watch the better produced quality programming.I said to myself .Its worth spending the current £145.50 pounds color $US 204.15 dollars .

We throw away alot more money then that on the crap cable TV every year.

I wonder how many get the B/W TV licence .
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Old 02-24-2016, 09:17 AM
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My cousin got done. He'd lived in Australia for 27 years & moved back to England, he didn't know you still needed a TV licence & the BBC licence cops came to visit. He was fined 270 pounds plus a victim surcharge of 30 pounds, I can't think who the victim was though.. People get a lesser fine for DUI.
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Old 02-24-2016, 09:39 AM
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My cousin got done. .
Your clan are quite the rebels for even thinking of shafting Auntie Beebe.
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Old 02-25-2016, 10:59 PM
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My cousin got done. He'd lived in Australia for 27 years & moved back to England, he didn't know you still needed a TV licence & the BBC licence cops came to visit. He was fined 270 pounds plus a victim surcharge of 30 pounds, I can't think who the victim was though.. People get a lesser fine for DUI.
Oh my god.The DUI charges are lower then the TV fine.
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Old 02-26-2016, 01:07 AM
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As Draconian as their penalties are, it's actually quite difficult to achieve a conviction: In practice, the violator has to Confess - in other words, be a Sap.

There are heavy pockets of successful resistance in the major cities. When this reaches critical mass, the tax will collapse, like it has in a host of other countries.
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Old 02-26-2016, 03:13 AM
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As with any criminal offence the prosecution must prove beyond reasonable doubt that the offece occurred. I believe that most TV licence convictions are achieved by confession.

The TV licence has been debated for many years in the UK. It's not a good way to fund public service broadcasting but it's hard to come up with anything better. A bit like democracy, where Churchill said: “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.”

The BBC has been through good times and bad. It's made horrible mistakes (look at today's news about J***y S****e) and had huge triumphs. It's survived attacks from politicians of all colours. See comments about licence fee and democracy above.

The "monochrome only" TV licence is down to about 9000. I'm sure it will be phased out soon. I've appeared on radio and TV occasionally to talk about it. I wrote part of the last TV licensing press release on the subject. I believe that most of the B&W licence holders actually have colour sets but it's politically too sensitive to pursue them. Yes, you'd catch some offenders but you'd generate some bad publicity when you also hassle some poor old ladies and vocal enthusiasts. For the of sake about $1.5 million per year it's not worth it. Even when I had a quiet chat with the TV Licence peoople they won't directly admit this but it's pretty obvious.

For about $4.50 per week I think it represents pretty good value.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:23 AM
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It's a long time since the golden age of Socialism (early 20th century) and BBC finds itself in a different world today. The tax, tolerated under Socialism, would be considered undemocratic - not to mention Regressive - now. And demographics are not helping, as White people, those who like BBC the most, will soon be an actual minority.
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Old 02-27-2016, 01:39 AM
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The Licence Fee is almost a poll tax, though it's levied per household not per head. As such it's regressive. But it's such a small amount for most people at $4.50 per week that it's not going to attract any mass protest. It's simply one of the costs of living in the UK and a pretty small one at that.

And what's socialism got to do with it? Even when Mrs Thatcher was PM there was no serious attempt to move to any other method of funding the BBC. Even in the US I don't think Mrs T would be considered socialist.

For more info about this turbulent time for the BBC I suggest Jane Seaton's book: "Pinkoes and Traitors". She picks up the BBC's history where Briggs left off. Seaton's style is very different to Briggs and much more readable.
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:32 AM
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I cant fuss with $4.50 a week.Probably some of us just pay that much and probably more for cable box rentals.

Now Comcast and other cable companies in the states are charging a broadcast TV fee of US$5.00 per month on the cable bill.

Why dont the stations jack up the advert fees instead of screwing the public with this BS charge.
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Old 02-27-2016, 10:05 PM
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... what's socialism got to do with it? ...
The BBC is the very essence of Socialism; it used to be Capitalist until a brutal government takeover in 1926.

Socialist BBC radio failed to give the kids what they wanted the most in the 1950s & 60s: Rock and Roll, (due to an Anti-American bias). Entrepreneurs filled the gap with Pirate Radio stations.

Sixty years later the BBC still does not deliver the media kids (Millennials) - and people of color - want. Yet they enforce $20/month from Millennial households when they would rather use the scarce money for smartphone web media.
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