The problem with collecting TV's...

[Kamakiri]

Originally Posted by Jon A.

Okay, since no one else is going to say or do anything about this, and that I don't care about being popular, I'm going to speak up.

Just about everyone here knows that discussions about anyone's faith is forbidden here, so it's only fair that I ask that those without any to refrain from mentioning it so casually and/or making it sound like a real hay ride. I may be the only one here who feels this way but nevertheless I think my wishes should be respected. If that's out of the question then I'll just walk away, no big deal. I know my input here is considered to be of little to no value anyway.

You're *half* right.....but you're taking it over the edge.

There's nowhere in the rule books that says you can't state the category of your beliefs. It's when you espouse them onto others is where things go wrong. I'm a Christian (oops) and have no problem or argument with someone who has no set faith or believes what they want to believe.

When we try to change people's views in that regard, especially in a vintage television forum, is where things get stupid.

Hakuna matata

PS- "I know my input here is considered to be of little to no value anyway" must be how you judge yourself, because that's not how we judge you or see you. Not sure whether that was intended to give your argument credulity.....but it doesn't compute.

[init4fun]

Originally Posted by Kamakiri

You're *half* right.....but you're taking it over the edge.

There's nowhere in the rule books that says you can't state the category of your beliefs. It's when you espouse them onto others is where things go wrong. I'm a Christian (oops) and have no problem or argument with someone who has no set faith or believes what they want to believe.

When we try to change people's views in that regard, especially in a vintage television forum, is where things get stupid.

Hakuna matata

PS- "I know my input here is considered to be of little to no value anyway" must be how you judge yourself, because that's not how we judge you or see you. Not sure whether that was intended to give your argument credulity.....but it doesn't compute.

Well then , at the risk of getting two threads closed in two days , here goes ;

I have always believed in a higher spirit that holds all living things together and also heavily believe in Karma , as in "live by the sword , die by the sword". I do not believe in any of the organized religion's self appointed divinity , for instance to me the Catholic Pope is no more divine than any other man , the higher spirit having created ALL humans with equal abilities of divinity or debauchery , depending on the character of the soul involved .

And Jon , Your posts here are fine with me , having folks around with my kind of "peek behind the curtain" ethos makes for interesting conversation . I may not always respond to your posts , but there are many times I'm in complete agreement with you .

[Kamakiri]

Originally Posted by init4fun

Well then , at the risk of getting two threads closed in two days , here goes ;

I have always believed in a higher spirit that holds all living things together and also heavily believe in Karma , as in "live by the sword , die by the sword". I do not believe in any of the organized religion's self appointed divinity , for instance to me the Catholic Pope is no more divine than any other man , the higher spirit having created ALL humans with equal abilities of divinity or debauchery , depending on the character of the soul involved .

And Jon , Your posts here are fine with me , having folks around with my kind of "peek behind the curtain" ethos makes for interesting conversation . I may not always respond to your posts , but there are many times I'm in complete agreement with you .

Things only get closed when they either get stupid, potentially stupid, or when they get derailed and go downhill fast. I've been doing this job on many boards for almost 17 years, so I've developed a feel for these things.

We're not there yet, but......

[Jon A.]

Originally Posted by Kamakiri

You're *half* right.....but you're taking it over the edge.

There's nowhere in the rule books that says you can't state the category of your beliefs. It's when you espouse them onto others is where things go wrong. I'm a Christian (oops) and have no problem or argument with someone who has no set faith or believes what they want to believe.

When we try to change people's views in that regard, especially in a vintage television forum, is where things get stupid.

Hakuna matata

PS- "I know my input here is considered to be of little to no value anyway" must be how you judge yourself, because that's not how we judge you or see you. Not sure whether that was intended to give your argument credulity.....but it doesn't compute.

Okay, glad that's been clarified. I'm certainly not one to split hairs; after all it's well known what trying to live by exact words did to Greg Brady. Some things, like the temporal prime directive, are much less of a headache if one just ignores them.

I suppose the main problem I have with collecting TVs is deciding what to do with those I don't watch which right now is all but one. If I had different rooms to put them in and extra DVD players I would do just that. The Hitachi MTS stereo TV/monitor I picked up yesterday would also do well if paired with a vintage computer. CRT PC monitors on the other hand I just can't be satisfied with anymore, I like having the extra clarity of a LCD panel when viewing small items/print at close range.

Thinking outside the cube, that's how I roll.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Jon A.

Okay, glad that's been clarified. I'm certainly not one to split hairs; after all it's well known what trying to live by exact words did to Greg Brady. Some things, like the temporal prime directive, are much less of a headache if one just ignores them.

I suppose the main problem I have with collecting TVs is deciding what to do with those I don't watch which right now is all but one. If I had different rooms to put them in and extra DVD players I would do just that. The Hitachi MTS stereo TV/monitor I picked up yesterday would also do well if paired with a vintage computer. CRT PC monitors on the other hand I just can't be satisfied with anymore, I like having the extra clarity of a LCD panel when viewing small items/print at close range.

Thinking outside the cube, that's how I roll.

I don't remember what happened to Greg Brady and BTW, who's Esther and is her sister named Polly.

[old_tv_nut]

Back to the problem with collecting TVs - I find that the TVs tend to collect stuff themselves:

[etype2]

That screenshot looks superb in a fairly bright lit room. I used to “DX” channel 5 from Milwaukee in the late 60’s, but WGN channel 9 was the clearest. I watched “Kup’s Show on Saturday night.

You stuff is neat. Collecting micros, no problem. The consoles are another thing.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by etype2

That screenshot looks superb in a fairly bright lit room. I used to “DX” channel 5 from Milwaukee in the late 60’s, but WGN channel 9 was the clearest. I watched “Kup’s Show on Saturday night.

You stuff is neat. Collecting micros, no problem. The consoles are another thing.

There was never a channel 5 in Milwaukee!
In the late 60's, the only channels were 4-6-10-12-18-24-36.

[old_tv_nut]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

There was never a channel 5 in Milwaukee!
In the late 60's, the only channels were 4-6-10-12-18-24-36.

He means he was DXing Chicago channel 5 from his location in Milwaukee.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by old_tv_nut

He means he was DXing Chicago channel 5 from his location in Milwaukee.

I thought his location was around Green Bay, rather than Milwaukee, because of the reference to the GB Packers.

[WISCOJIM]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

I thought his location was around Green Bay, rather than Milwaukee, because of the reference to the GB Packers.

The Packers also played in Milwaukee back then.

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[old_tv_nut]

Not a completely untouched photo of the CTC-5. Canon 50d and kit lens. The room was not that bright except for the wall behind, and I carefully arranged the lights not to hit the faceplate or the carpet that reflects in the glass. The CRT image was a bit overexposed and too blue, so I burned it in Lightroom. Also removed (in Photoshop) a white stripe on the left that the file player produced at this zoom setting.

Camera club subject of the month for January is "Antique," so I will title this "Antique Peacock."

The Zenith shot is straight out of my phone, just cropped left and right. The Zenith logo dish is not legit Zenith, but a one-of-a-kind made by a retired colleague from the standards committees.

[Jeffhs]

Where did you find that screen image? NBC does not use the full-size peacock any longer, having retired it in 1975; however, they still use a much smaller peacock (with the NBC chimes) these days, which it shows just before its color programs in prime time. The small peacock, often in bland, drab black and white (!), is also shown after the network's promotions for the next show and before it goes to the local stations.

The NBC "snake" was also retired in 1975. I have many very fond memories of NBC's original peacock which was shown just before color programs on the network, with an announcer saying "The following program is brought to you in living color on NBC."

The NBC television station in Cleveland was owned by NBC from 1948 to 1955 and again from 1965 to 1990. (The station is now owned by Tegna, which has succeeded in running it into the ground, but that's another story.) I mention this because NBC also had regional announcements for local color programs, based on the network's own announcement. There were different versions for each city in which NBC owned a station. In Cleveland, the announcement was "The following program is brought to you in living color (over) WKYC-TV."


BTW, where did Chicago's NBC television station ever get the idea it is "the world's first full color TV station"? I'm sure other TV stations were broadcasting in color long before 1966, the year NBC-TV became the first so-called "full color" television network in the US. Also, I would think New York's WNBC-TV, being NBC's first TV station, should have been the station to take this honor. I don't think Chicago's NBC affiliate signed on the air until some time in the late 1940s-early 1950s, as there were very few, if any, commercial TV stations in the United States before 1947. Cleveland, for example, did not get its first television station until 1947; it was on channel 5 and was originally affiliated with CBS (it is now an ABC affiliate). In '48, channel 3 signed on as an NBC affiliate, and the following year, channel 8 signed on. (The grade-ZZZ UHF stations in Cleveland did not arrive until the mid-'60s through the mid-'80s, with one such station, channel 19, taking the CBS affiliation from channel 8 in the early nineties; from 1986 until about 1994 or so, 19 was an affiliate of that poor excuse for a TV network called FOX.) I believe channel 8 was an independent station at the time (1949), as the ABC television network did not exist until the late '50s or even early sixties.

[old_tv_nut]

Originally Posted by Jeffhs

Where did you find that screen image? ...


BTW, where did Chicago's NBC television station ever get the idea it is "the world's first full color TV station"? ...

I don't recall where I found that jpg of the Chicago peacock, but I definitely have it saved for use on the media player.
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See jr_tech's link to the WMAQ story.

By "full color" they meant all new locally produced material. Of course, they still had some monochrome shows on from the network and some old movies in B&W. But if it came from their studios, it was in color.

It's very hard to find material referencing Tommy Tint. Also, I have seen only one ebay listing, years back, for one of the multicolored desk phones that Illinois Bell/Western Electric made for their offices by assembling parts from several differently colored phone cases. I lost the bid.
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As a side note, I have often marvelled at how little control NBC kept over the color in various representations of the peacock. Every promotional item is different, most matching the general hues (and some not), but all differing in brightness, saturation, and exact hue. The form was all they really standardized. Even the on-air lead-ins, which were intended to have standard colors, were often distorted by excess contrast and color shifts from multi-generation copying.

[Electronic M]

If you get a BT agile modulator your DVD player can be shared by all your TVs...