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Dave A 04-09-2013 02:53 PM

Email sent to seller.

zenithfan1 04-09-2013 03:20 PM

Good luck Dave!

Sandy G 04-09-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zenithfan1 (Post 3066441)
Good luck Dave!

Absolutely !! Hope it works out well...

Dave A 04-11-2013 01:20 AM

Nothing yet. Tried another email ad. Did anyone here go for it?

Dave A 04-11-2013 08:33 PM

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I got it! My first email is stuck in a network switch somewhere. The second worked this morning. I now have it at home for $90 untested. My thanks to our admin for finding this in my back yard.

The sellers were two old girls moving out. They are the original owners from 1965 or so as they remembered. They bought it in St. Louis and then to Denver and on to Valley Forge, PA where it went to the attic 33 years ago until today. They claimed it was the first Pana color sold in the states. I will let others decide. They also have the paperwork somewhere and will send it when they find it. 17" CRT marked as 490HB22. Cabinet is fine but for a few scratches I can fix. Clearly a tabletop for most markets and screw-in legs to make it a console.

Google does not help much other than a Life magazine ad from early 1967;

http://books.google.com/books?id=XlY...ct-66l&f=false

Same set but the tabletop version.

It is a Panasonic CT-66L which gives me a 1966 clue. The L is probably N. America. The Life ad from early 1967 fits. A trip home in the back seat of the 93 Caddy with the legs off was good. They helped me load it.

The chart shows two filament strings. The first glowed at 50v on the Variac. The second at 80v. Then I got a line at 100v and it stayed a line at 115v. V troubles somewhere. Service switch did its job. The line pic was for a few minutes to take the pic. The bright and contrast controls did their job. Moving the H control would bounce the line. Shut down after that and no damage. I will save the Beltron for later when I see a a picture. There is a cover under the cabinet for chassis service. The fly looks fine. On-off is shot. Line switch used for years.

The CRT is not a 21" type. More modern. The chassis pic shows a convergence coil leaning over. Very old damage and it still ohms out. I will leave it alone and secure it with glue. There are red and blue cutoff switches at the bottom on the convg panel. The line was fine to almost the edge of the screen. Tubes are too odd for my tester. May have to shotgun replacements and I will be back to you for replacements.

Tubes are mostly Matsushita with a few Sylvania replacements. Matsu shows codes of 6F and 6G. Not sure about that coding. The dipole is an aftermarket add-on and in perfect shape. Plastic bezel is a wonderful chemically degraded pale yellow.

Stay tuned.

NewVista 04-12-2013 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dave a (Post 3066544)
crt marked as 490hb22.

= 19"?

zenithfan1 04-12-2013 07:19 AM

Yeah, the Japanese and european sets used a different number system that seemingly makes no sense to me. LOL!

Dave, very glad to see you got it. It looks good too. These are fun because they're so different from our designs. I hope to find one someday.

Sandy G 04-12-2013 08:02 AM

VERY hppy & proud of/for you ! There can't be many of thease Bad Bois still out there...Hope to see Glorious Lollipop Color eminating froim it soon...(grin)

Kamakiri 04-12-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by zenithfan1 (Post 3066561)
These are fun because they're so different from our designs. I hope to find one someday.

You're braver than I, good sir! To this day, I still won't work on a European tube radio. Fortunately, I've never come across any that actually NEED work :dunno:

dieseljeep 04-12-2013 09:19 AM

I've seen and worked on the very same set, badged as Pennrest, Bradford and Singer.
The antenna on the set is original factory issue.
The last one I worked on, belonged to a neighbor and was a low hours set. It still had a good picture after eighteen years.
A heavy beast for a table model. Some of the tubes are in series, but it is a cold chassis.

dieseljeep 04-12-2013 09:30 AM

[QUOTE=zenithfan1;3066561]Yeah, the Japanese and european sets used a different number system that seemingly makes no sense to me. LOL!

I discussed the European tube numbering system with a radio tech from Holland, that had a repair shop that specialized in German radios.
He explained that it made more sense than the American system. Each letter had a real meaning to it. :yes:

zenithfan1 04-12-2013 09:36 AM

I was looking at the picture of the tube layout, it looks like the one in my CTC11 Abington. It seems to be a bit moth eaten or something, I can see on mine where something was munching on it lol! It's plenty legible though, like yours is.

dieseljeep 04-12-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by zenithfan1 (Post 3066575)
I was looking at the picture of the tube layout, it looks like the one in my CTC11 Abington. It seems to be a bit moth eaten or something, I can see on mine where something was munching on it lol! It's plenty legible though, like yours is.

Possibly Silverfish damage. Better than a mouse house. :sigh:

zenithfan1 04-12-2013 10:37 AM

You got that right!! It's almost impossible to get rid of that mouse piss smell. I have a set that has a "California car scent" can in it. When it warms up, the room smells like cherries. :D

jr_tech 04-12-2013 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by dave a
"crt marked as 490hb22."
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Originally Posted by NewVista (Post 3066560)
= 19"?

I believe so, in this time frame IIRC, the number represented the exterior diagonal of the CRT bottle in mm, so 490 would be 19.29 inches... likely the screen display diagonal was about 18.5 inches.
Example: an early 12 inch Trinitron CRT was the 330ab22. 330 divided by 25.4 equals 12.99 inches... the screen display diagonal was slightly less than 12 inches.

jr


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