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vts1134 07-29-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveWM (Post 3077357)
or the end as collectors die off, will there be more in the pipe line (collectors) to continue the interest? I mean really how many world wide are there that are actively seeking out parts? I wonder what the ratio of old timers to newbs is, and if that continues the newbs will become smaller and smaller. I suppose there could be a resurgence of interest (hard to predict what will tickle the fancy of people in the future), but that presupposes that their will be people that can actually fix sets vs just collect non working hulks, which in that case there will be no need for "good" crt's just relics to have as conversation pieces.

That is how the conversation steered. I commented that IF people continue to collect these in the future that prices can only go up. I emphasized the if and she commented that there were a fair, not a lot but a fair amount of younger people at the ETF convention this year.

bigaudioal 07-29-2013 01:47 PM

I am brand new to the hobby and on the young side (40). I am really only interested in getting the sets I collect to work. Not really sure what attracted me to this, other than my love of antiques and memories of my grandfather pulling a tabletop set out in his backyard with an extension cord and antenna to watch a ballgame in the summer time.

Plus there is a great satisfaction in learning this stuff, doing the work and actually getting results. I started with a few radios and have had immense help from folks on this forum. Have not completely restored a TV by myself yet, but I am getting there.

Hope the prices do not go up TOO high for working parts, but understand if they do.

bandersen 07-29-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kx250rider (Post 3077363)
... Last time I had a 10BP4 rebuilt about 10 years ago, it was $39 from VDC.

Charles

Really ?!? Hawkeye was charging $300. I can't imagine how VDC could do it for only $39. It involves so much time and labor not to mention the cost of the new gun.

Kevin Kuehn 07-29-2013 03:13 PM

VDC has been know to buy up other re builders inventory. Possibly they were sitting on a good sized stash back then. But still hard to believe they would have blown them out at $39. :scratch2:

earlyfilm 07-29-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ohohyodafarted (Post 3077293)
I was watching this auction to see where it would go. Incredible!

(10BP4-B sold for: $265.00 + $35.50 fixed shipping = $300.50)

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Originally Posted by Eric H (Post 3077298)
Well you can't get them rebuilt anymore so what are you gonna do.

Well, you could go to the yearly convention at ETF.

I know there were some in the flea market, and there were at least four 10 inch tubes in the silent auction.

Two 10BP4's - one with 100% emission and another with less.

(The 10BP4's never were aluminized, unless some rebuilder did it.)

One aluminized Sylvania 10SP4 with an extremely light gray faceplate and 70% emission, went home with me for one tenth of that cost! This CRT is basically an aluminized 10BP4 on steroids for industrial use.

I cannot remember what the other 10 inch tube was, it might have been a 10FP4 or an unmarked round 10 inch tube.

None of the four went for nearly as much as the eBay auction.

I had to cut my buying his year, due to limited space in my CRV, as I had to pick up a floor model set in Dayton.

James

DavidGoncalv 07-29-2013 05:13 PM

Unless you are quite a ways out from ETF, then it is still a wash.

WISCOJIM 07-29-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 3077392)
Really ?!? Hawkeye was charging $300. I can't imagine how VDC could do it for only $39. It involves so much time and labor not to mention the cost of the new gun.

My understanding was that Scotty greatly increased his prices the last few years of business because he no longer wanted to be doing it, and he also knew he was the last one doing it. And I think the $300 cost was for roundie color CRTs, not B&W tubes.

I bought six 17-inch Predicta CRTs from VDC for $322.51 total shipped to me as recently as February 2010. It ws much cheaper to buy them outright from VDC's stock rather than to try and deal with Scotty.

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bandersen 07-29-2013 09:32 PM

Well he certainly charged me $300 for rebuilding a 10FP4. I've heard the same price from others too.

I also got one of those $40 VDC 17 inch Predicta CRTs :) Not that I've ever found a bad one. It seems they were much more reliable than the 21" version.
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WISCOJIM 07-29-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 3077449)
Well he certainly charged me $300 for rebuilding a 10FP4. I've heard the same price from others too.

Then he really did jack up the rates near the end!

ChrisW6ATV 07-30-2013 12:47 AM

I could not even sell my known-good 10BP4 for $75 a while back. It was inside a beat-up RCA 8T241 cabinet and chassis.

decojoe67 07-30-2013 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudioal (Post 3077390)
I am brand new to the hobby and on the young side (40). I am really only interested in getting the sets I collect to work. Not really sure what attracted me to this, other than my love of antiques and memories of my grandfather pulling a tabletop set out in his backyard with an extension cord and antenna to watch a ballgame in the summer time.

Plus there is a great satisfaction in learning this stuff, doing the work and actually getting results. I started with a few radios and have had immense help from folks on this forum. Have not completely restored a TV by myself yet, but I am getting there.

Hope the prices do not go up TOO high for working parts, but understand if they do.

I too am on the younger side of radio/TV collectors (46), but I've been in the hobby avidly since about 1980. Recently I've noticed that many sets, as well as early CRT's and other various parts are suddenly becoming rather scarce. In, say the '90's, it seemed there was an over-abundance of everything! Certain serious collectors had stacks of sets stored away. Of course it's bound to happen that the supply dries-up as time goes on. It just gets a little more expensive and requires a little more searching around to get something.
Good luck with your resto work. I still am timid with elec. repairs. I give it to my tech.
Joe

jmetal88 07-30-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by decojoe67 (Post 3077474)
I too am on the younger side of radio/TV collectors (46), but I've been in the hobby avidly since about 1980. Recently I've noticed that many sets, as well as early CRT's and other various parts are suddenly becoming rather scarce. In, say the '90's, it seemed there was an over-abundance of everything! Certain serious collectors had stacks of sets stored away. Of course it's bound to happen that the supply dries-up as time goes on. It just gets a little more expensive and requires a little more searching around to get something.
Good luck with your resto work. I still am timid with elec. repairs. I give it to my tech.
Joe

You guys are making me feel way out of place, haha. I'm only 24.

oldtvsandtoy 07-30-2013 02:59 PM

Something to think about, if my 10bp4 sold for $265. What would my good 3kp4 sell for? Just something to think about.

dtvmcdonald 07-30-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oldtvsandtoy (Post 3077544)
Something to think about, if my 10bp4 sold for $265. What would my good 3kp4 sell for? Just something to think about.

Depends on who's there! I bought my whole Pilot TV-37 with
first rate 3kp4 for $45.

They thought it was a radio. There was another bidder, but he
was a generalist, not a radio-TV specialist.

Doug McDonald

kvflyer 07-30-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtvmcdonald (Post 3077555)
Depends on who's there! I bought my whole Pilot TV-37 with
first rate 3kp4 for $45.

They thought it was a radio. There was another bidder, but he
was a generalist, not a radio-TV specialist.

Doug McDonald

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