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miniman82 04-17-2015 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dtvmcdonald (Post 3131598)
Its unlikely a single peaking coil could cause that, it would have to be more than one in the DC restorer circuits

If you know CT-100's, you'll know that it's ALWAYS more than one bad peaking coil. :smoke:

dtvmcdonald 04-17-2015 09:28 AM

Yes, mine had numerous bad peaking coils. But its not likely that a restored
set that worked a long time after restoration would lose
more than one more at a time. This particular failure is more likely something else.

Patrick H 04-17-2015 06:08 PM

I had 12 pictures on EBay and all but 2 disappeared so I ended the auction and will resist when I get home from Japan on Tuesday. stay tuned.

edison64 04-22-2015 08:40 PM

Yes let's all stay tuned...:no:

zenithfan1 04-23-2015 02:48 AM

:lurk:

Rusty34 04-25-2015 10:19 AM

Why does something as historically significant as the CT100 have to be restored to working by replacing factory original parts? I have no problem restoring other less rare and or otherwise abundant examples. I was just looking at Phil's CT100 page, all loaded up with imported modern parts. Originality is gone.

Username1 04-25-2015 11:06 AM

Many of the older original parts were subject to decaying because of materials
used, drying in the case of capacitors, heat damage and drifting values in
the case of resistors, and insulator break down for coils, dielectric material
that did not stand up to the voltages used.... In a lot of cases also once
a minor part went bad, it could cause over current conditions to burn out
transformers, that are not available to replace at any price....

Replacing a lot of those parts is just buying insurance. Insurance that the
older part might be ready to go- and that the new part chosen may be
of at least good enough quality that for the immediate future, the chance
of failure, and taking out a more expensive, and hard to find part may
not happen..... Like a flyback, yoke, etc....

There is also the argument to be made that the set will work better if
all the parts are brought back to their designed values. Tolerances of
some non critical parts were often specified to be 20%, quite a bit off
designed value..... And over time they drifted even more..... Doing so
for every part means you have to re-align all the circuits to achieve
the goal of a better working set... There are a few people here that have
done all the work required, and have been rewarded with a set that can
be run for hours at a time, and years of use without having to fiddle
with all the knobs with each use, and rolling picture after a few hours,
and constant retuning over the hours of use.... But really good parts
have to be used..... Any you have to be careful, or you end up with
more trouble than if you just fixed the original problem and used it on the
old parts.....



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jr_tech 04-25-2015 12:26 PM

oops! double post, see below.

jr

jr_tech 04-25-2015 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty34 (Post 3132302)
Why does something as historically significant as the CT100 have to be restored to working by replacing factory original parts? I have no problem restoring other less rare and or otherwise abundant examples. I was just looking at Phil's CT100 page, all loaded up with imported modern parts. Originality is gone.

There are likely more examples of original or "nearly original" sets around than those that have been rebuilt with modern parts. Most sets that can be found have dead CRTs... once the CRT is gone there is little to no motivation to rebuild the electronics. However, It is also good to have a few very good working examples for comparison to modern technology.

jr

Rusty34 04-25-2015 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_tech (Post 3132311)
There are likely more examples of original or "nearly original" sets around than those that have been rebuilt with modern parts. Most sets that can be found have dead CRTs... once the CRT is gone there is little to no motivation to rebuild the electronics. However, It is also good to have a few very good working examples for comparison to modern technology.

jr

Good reply! However, would you like to buy one someone else has already restored or would you prefer to do that yourself?

jr_tech 04-25-2015 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty34 (Post 3132312)
would you like to buy one someone else has already restored or would you prefer to do that yourself?

I don't have a clear answer to that... too many variables, quality of the work, overall quality of the operation of the set, price, location. Each set offered has its own merits to consider.

jr

dtvmcdonald 04-25-2015 03:18 PM

We shall see what the Reitan CT-100 with working CRT sells for. The
reserve is a great deal ... but it won't sell for that.

When I restored mine, the aim was a perfectly working set. I did not
restuff parts. But I DID save all the originals. If someone in
the future wants the original look, they can do the restuffing.

The white peaking coils would have to be replaced with modern
ones inside a fake shell, not hard to do.

Rusty34 04-25-2015 07:48 PM

Someone may want to reinstall the original parts without restuffing. At some point it will not be important whether it works or not. What may eventually become important is the original parts with mfgr. names and date codes are present.

zenithfan1 04-25-2015 08:24 PM

:boring:

David Roper 04-25-2015 11:26 PM

That's a minority viewpoint among collectors, even of the rarest of rare sets--which frankly the CT-100 is not. Extremely desirable, but not extremely rare. TV sets in their truest original sense are appliances that must function to be of any value whatsoever. So it is a trade-off no matter which side you come down on. And I come down on the side that maintains originality as much as is practically possible in restoring the sets to work. And from a practical standpoint, a CT-100 is a far more impressive thing to demonstrate than to merely display.


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