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zenithfan1 04-29-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3068043)
Ouch! What a rotten thing to have happen. I'd be mega-pissed if that happened to me.



Hilarious quote. Is the three letter word off or you?

I think either one could be implied, depends on the situation:D

bmcgarth13 04-29-2013 11:07 PM

what I don't understand is why he keeps listing the set on ebay at the same price, for multiple weeks if it "needs to be picked up within 7 days". for the amount of time he has wasted trying to (re)sell the tv set, you could have already arranged for pick up and had it sitting in your house instead of having to fight him on getting your money back. the whole pickup thing seems counter-intuitive given how long it has been listed, and the seller seems like a real snake not wishing to realize clearly how wrong he is for doing what he is doing. just my two cents. Truly hope everything works out, and I think that it will one way or the other.

CoogarXR 04-30-2013 07:20 AM

Let me tell you how the paypal balance thing works. I keep a zero paypal balance. I had a frivolous claim opened against me. When a claim gets opened, ebay (I'm sorry "paypal", same difference) puts a hold on that amount. If your balance is zero, it just goes negative, and they send you threatening emails; "your account has a negative balance, please add funds". I think there was some verbage about sending to a collections agency after a while. This was about 5 years ago. They do not automatically take from the attached account. I just let it sit negative until the case was ultimately resolved in my favor.

A little background on the case, for those who might care: I sold a power supply for a phone system for $400. It was a working pull, fully tested by me, and pictured as tested with a meter showing outputs. The guy gets it, installs it in a shorted system and it won't power up (it has a self-test, and won't power up if its outputs are shorted). He wouldn't believe me, said it was DOA, and demanded his system was fine. I told him some basic things to try, but he refused. After a week, what do you know, the case was closed and I got left a positive feedback with no explanation. I guess he figured out I was right, lol.

Stromberg48 04-30-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CoogarXR (Post 3068095)
Let me tell you how the paypal balance thing works. I keep a zero paypal balance. I had a frivolous claim opened against me. When a claim gets opened, ebay (I'm sorry "paypal", same difference) puts a hold on that amount. If your balance is zero, it just goes negative, and they send you threatening emails; "your account has a negative balance, please add funds". I think there was some verbage about sending to a collections agency after a while. This was about 5 years ago. They do not automatically take from the attached account. I just let it sit negative until the case was ultimately resolved in my favor.

A little background on the case, for those who might care: I sold a power supply for a phone system for $400. It was a working pull, fully tested by me, and pictured as tested with a meter showing outputs. The guy gets it, installs it in a shorted system and it won't power up (it has a self-test, and won't power up if its outputs are shorted). He wouldn't believe me, said it was DOA, and demanded his system was fine. I told him some basic things to try, but he refused. After a week, what do you know, the case was closed and I got left a positive feedback with no explanation. I guess he figured out I was right, lol.

That is not my experience. Maybe it was before Ebay fully bought up PP. It was so long ago I can't remember the exact details...I list motorcycle engine as NON working parts/needs disassembly, buyer buys it cheap ($180), buyer decides I didn't describe it as parts. Buyer files claim and uses his credit union to reverse charges(Paypal won't even fight this scenario, they automatically side with buyer and don't do "As-IS"). funds taken direct from bank account via debit card attached to PP, bounce charges...Ebay and paypal steal my engine, my shipping cost, and the bank sticks me with compounding bounces charges if I don't pay up.

So maybe that's not directly attaching an account because CC company was involved backed by weight of credit union...but in action it's similar. Having zero PP balance doesn't help.

Your situation the buyer probably paid from PP balance, thus no immediate action against your CC or debit card you attached. Just negative PP balance.

I don't know because i haven't sold on fleabay for a long time, but
nowadays , they may have better safeguards like making sure the buyer actually returns the item, but that didn't used to be the case.

init4fun 04-30-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by init4fun (Post 3067135)
:thmbsp: In solidarity with our fellow collector Bob , I have sent a friendly Email asking for the return of Bob's $250 . I used no foul or threatening language and explained that just because an appointment to pick up the set was missed is no good reason to commit fraud by withholding both the funds and the TV . I myself am a Radio collector mostly , but I do also appreciate the old TVs and I know how few real TV collectors are out here . If this dealer does not honor the deal with Bob I pray that will be the LAST antique TV he sells , as the few real collectors shun him for screwing Bob on this deal .

I urge ALL our fellow collectors , no matter what ya collect , to take a few moments and send off an Email to the seller in support of doing the right thing for Bob , either give him his paid for TV , or a refund of the money spent . If the dealer gets enough Emails , It just may prompt him into doing the right thing , especially if the volume of Emails indicates that the entire collector community universally condemns this blatant ripoff ...

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Originally Posted by init4fun (Post 3067419)
Waitin on Karma may be all well and good , but I'll bet if a few folks would lift a few fingers and send off an Email to the seller asking nicely for the return of Bob's $250 , It could speed up the Karma process considerably :thmbsp:

In post one of this thread , Bob asked for folks to send off some Emails . I have done so and have seen no other mention of anyone else honoring Bob's request . If the seller sees dozens of friendly Emails urging him to do the right thing , he just may "man up" and make good on the deal , even if only for the reason of the fear of never being able to sell another antique tv to the collector community .....


So Guys , Hows those Emails coming along ? Anyone send any yet ?

If Bob is ever to see justice on this issue , a few fellow collectors are gonna have to make some noise in the form of polite complaint to the seller so that it appears that a lot more than just the ripoff of Bob's $250 is at stake . The guy runs a business selling stuff , If he thinks enough business could be lost he may do what's right here just for the sake of his bottom line . But with no protest or knowledge that the collector community is even aware of this injustice to Bob , the seller has no idea that anyone else except Bob is even aware that Bob is out $250 and has no TV to show for it . I'll bet the seller hasn't even a clue that this thread exists ....

Squiggle Dog 04-30-2013 01:08 PM

I did receive a response from the eBay seller stating that he will still give Bob the television set if he picks it up, or will give an immediate refund if the set sells to another buyer. So, this is encouraging. The seller seems to have an issue with storing items because of lack of space. Here's hoping for a good resolution.

W3XWT 04-30-2013 03:49 PM

What Melissa Said...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3068043)
Ouch! What a rotten thing to have happen. I'd be mega-pissed if that happened to me.



Hilarious quote. Is the three letter word off or you?

It was "you"... And, that was from thirty-eight years ago! (How ironic on the number being a hilarious coincidence!)

And, I hope Bob is able to pickup the set on his way to ETF...

Sandy G 04-30-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Squiggle Dog (Post 3068119)
I did receive a response from the eBay seller stating that he will still give Bob the television set if he picks it up, or will give an immediate refund if the set sells to another buyer. So, this is encouraging. The seller seems to have an issue with storing items because of lack of space. Here's hoping for a good resolution.

I certainly hope everything works out well, but that doesn't change the fact this seller is apparently sort of a Load, & I wouldn't touch him w/a 10 foot pole..Burn me once, Shame on you, burn me TWICE, shame on ME...


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