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Kamakiri 06-10-2014 05:49 AM

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Interestingly enough, seems that those that use the 7" sets regularly choose Motorola as their "daily driver".

At the moment, I have 2 working, an Admiral 19A11SN, and a Motorola VT-71. The Admiral has such a razor sharp clear picture, the Motorola isn't quite as crisp but I seem to gravitate to the Motorola. The Admiral's picture is so sharp that it might as well be a more modern transistor BW set, the Motorola....you watch it and it reminds you that it's still an old television :)

dieseljeep 06-10-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 3106449)
...And at LEAST 90% of the so-called "news" the local yokels put on is "Feel Good" BS, or something I, & I suspect a lot of others, couldn't care less about... But YOU can get a GREAT DEAL from Johnson City Honda, Johnson City..

There hasn't been too much "Feel Good" news around here lately.
The only good news is the young girl, that was stabbed multiple times by her "friends", is home and recovering nicely. :thmbsp:
The bad news is three shootings, with one fatality, overnight. :sigh:
Fox6 news, "Fair and Balanced". :boring:
During the day, I'll turn on "Touch TV" for a while. They show the important historical facts of the day and old newsreels, plus local weather and news briefs. It's a digital sub of the CBS channel.

kx250rider 06-10-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3106401)
I think, I have four of those right now. When watching one, it's about arms length away.
I can't seem to stay away from small screen color sets. I'll buy all I can get.
The 9" Panasonic white kitchen sets, turn yellow after a while. I understand, they're made of flame-proof plastic. Probably U/V discoloration. :sigh:

I like 'em too. Not sure what the fascination is, but I've always had to buy them when they show up :scratch2:...

Charles

dieseljeep 06-10-2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kx250rider (Post 3106481)
I like 'em too. Not sure what the fascination is, but I've always had to buy them when they show up :scratch2:...

Charles

For the most part, they have to be color, although I have a few B/W sets.
I have to take inventory, as I have four Zenith 9" cube sets, one badged Heathkit.
Small, Sears, Goldstar-built sets. Funai-built 9" Magnavox undercabinet set.
Everyone grumbles about Funai sets, but their small screen TV only models are really reliable. The VCR combos, not so. :thumbsdn:

vts1134 06-10-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ohohyodafarted (Post 3106390)
Watching tv was a big time social event in the early days of television, when the vast majority of homes still did not have a set. The host would prepare snacks for everyone and there would of course be plenty of Milwaukee's finest for the adults and soda for the kids. When the show came on, the lights in the room were turn off and we sat in the dark watching this tiny little screen. It was exciting! Live boxing from Madison Square Garden, every Friday night.

Although I am too young to have witnessed this first hand it is one of the stories I tell people when showing them my collection. Bob- I may print quotes like this out someday to display for people to get an idea of how television used to bring people together instead of driving people apart as it does today.

rcaman 06-11-2014 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ohohyodafarted (Post 3106419)
Yes Sandy everyone including us little kids, wore nice clothes. People did that sort of thing back in the day. I didn't like getting dressed as a toddler, and I still don't lit to dress up to this day.

yes and we dressed up to go to the doctor and about everywhere.
now as long as my clothes are clean i do not care i am not dressing up.

btw remember all the nurses had white clothes and a white cap on.

Sandy G 06-11-2014 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rcaman (Post 3106575)
yes and we dressed up to go to the doctor and about everywhere.
now as long as my clothes are clean i do not care i am not dressing up.

btw remember all the nurses had white clothes and a white cap on.

Yeah, & they about ALL wore heels, & I think a lot of 'em musta worn "Taps", to, 'cause they 'd go "Clack...Clack...Clack...Clack.." as they walked down the hall. My wife has one of them little "Go To Hell" caps, but I've been w/her since 2007, & I've NEVER seen it. About all of 'em, doctors, nurses, techs, the whole kit & caboodle wear scrubs, & sneakers, or Crocs, as my wife does. And I don't think any of 'em wear the caps, except ones fresh out of nursing school. But she says think about it-those starched white uniforms were UNCOMFORTABLE, the 1st patient you see will bleed or puke on you, so there goes the pretty white business right out the window, I GUESS somebody still makes the "Dress Whites", but hardly anyone wears them.

ChrisW6ATV 06-12-2014 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamakiri (Post 3106303)
Here's the only photo I could find that shows a living room with a 7" set, I took this as a still out of a Motorola TV commercial from 1948. They can't be more than 3 feet from the set, which is actually about right. I picture all of their living room furniture moved into a corner, and the rest of the room totally empty :D

Or, they have a tiny living room, like I do. If I moved my couch away from the wall to have a walking path behind it, the dimensions would about match that picture. To me, though, that would be the right viewing distance for a 65-inch 1080P screen. :)

They have no coffee table in their little room (and neither do I). I suppose, if you used a 7-inch TV as your living-room set, you could probably only afford a small room anyway.

DavGoodlin 06-12-2014 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 3106414)
The local stations down here start the "6 o'clock" news at 4 or 5. They have Live at 5 on 5, then rehash the same dopey stuff at 5.30, regurgitate it AGAIN at 6, the networks take over a 6.30, then quite a few of 'em rerun the same 3 stories of a Horrible Wreck on the Interstate at 7 & 7.30 that we've heard about EVERY 30 minutes since 4 or 5.... And just in case you missed it, they dutifully repeat it AGAIN at 11 PM..The ads are even worse-down here, there's some bucktoothed guy w/a cheesy beard/stache who has been the spokesperson for "Johnson City Honda... Johnson City" for AGES, to try to get you believe that you'll get less of a screwing at the JC Honda emporium than you would if you went to the Dastardly cutpurses in Bristol or Kingsport.

Yes there are also several news hours throughout the day on the locals here too. Fortunately, only so much bad or could-care-less news happens in the Harrisburg-York-Lancaster market, so it seems pretty lame. Only the weather is truly unpredictable

Now for the Philly channels, well that's a different story and the car dealers must shout (especially the NJ dealers, where its even cheaper) how they are simply DESPARATELY INSANE to get rid of the overstock and will NOT LET YOU OUT OF THEIR STORE until a deal is to your liking.

And now for something completely different....

I got used to a 7-inch set when I was a teenager and took my Sony TV-720 "upstate" to the cabin in the late 70s so i wouldn't miss SNL and SCTV.
There was only 12 volts DC and two channels available.

My father-in-law recalls a very popular neighbor in the late '49 hosted "friday night fights" parties similar to Bob's description.
i'll keep working on him to remember if it was a Moto VT71 or RCA 621TS..=)
Fortunately, that town was not limited to the one channel intended to cover the area, but could get all three Philly stations as well.

wa2ise 06-12-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ohohyodafarted (Post 3106419)
Yes Sandy everyone including us little kids, wore nice clothes. People did that sort of thing back in the day.

But even though they wore nice clothes, seems that generation didn't shower real often. "BO". "PU". I'd hate to be time travel teleported back to that era...

About 20 years ago I used to work for Philips in New York. We'd have expatriates from Europe come work here for a year or more, at first they tended to be stinky. But most cleaned up their act, though one, it seemed the smell could peel the paint off the walls... :thumbsdn:

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The local stations down here start the "6 o'clock" news at 4 or 5. They have Live at 5 on 5, then rehash the same dopey stuff at 5.30, regurgitate it AGAIN at 6, the networks take over a 6.30, then quite a few of 'em rerun the same 3 stories of a Horrible Wreck on the Interstate at 7 & 7.30 that we've heard about EVERY 30 minutes since 4 or 5.... And just in case you missed it, they dutifully repeat it AGAIN at 11 PM..
Don't think the local news at the New York City TV stations (the ones that are named for their networks, WABC, WNBC, WCBS) is any better. "If it bleeds, it leads" Also fires and murders and rapes. The only quality news is found during the national and world news shows.

Kamakiri 06-12-2014 07:26 PM

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But even though they wore nice clothes, seems that generation didn't shower real often. "BO". "PU". I'd hate to be time travel teleported back to that era...

That's EXACTLY what I think of every time I see Jimmy Roberts on the Lawrence Welk show. I often wonder how many layers of bear grease he's got on his head.

Every time I see him, I wanna say TAKE A BATH WILL YOU? :no:

David Roper 06-13-2014 01:40 AM

One of my grandpa's friends was a fellow by the name of Monty Cutler. I have no idea how often Monty bathed, but I'm sure he absolutely never used a deodorant in his whole life. Monty was married--twice--so apparently pheromones were still effective with even some American girls back then. But there was also the oft-repeated story about one lady who actually confronted Monty about his odiferousness: he told her "it's a manly smell and the ladies like it." So there.

Jon A. 06-13-2014 02:55 AM

There were a few customers at my former work placement I would have liked to have sent through a car wash, without a car.

Tubejunke 06-13-2014 04:38 AM

Sometimes you have to do without in order to appreciate what most of us take for granted. I learned this about many things in life, but the topic is small screen TV sets. The power goes out a lot where I live for whatever reason. So I always have kept a small TV around that I could run on a power inverter from my truck's battery.

For years I had a 13" black and white which at the young age of 45 is not crazy small. That's all that me and my grandmother ever had when I was growing up and we didn't even think twice about it. Dad had the monolithic 25" remote controlled, color floor model in the basement, but we were happy with what we had.

Anyway, I donated the 13" a while back and found an 80s Panasonic AM-FM-TV portable that ran on D cells or AC line. It has like maybe a 4" black and white tube. Panasonic really had it going on with quality and durability back in the early to mid 80s. Everything I ever find is bullet proof. So, twice now the power has gone out and I lit the oil lamps and set the little tv on the coffee table and was perfectly content. It sure beat sitting there in the dark! The inverter runs the tv and either the DirecTv or free TV box for hours before the low voltage alarm sounds and I go crank the truck and recharge the battery.

Really I could easily run my bedroom 19" PANASONIC that plays around the clock many days without flaw. It would just run the battery down a lot quicker. It's another 80s set. I don't have the stuff for nostalgia; I just have it to use. Just regular stuff to me and works and lasts better than the crap their pushing these days.

old_coot88 06-13-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wa2ise (Post 3106761)
...Even though they wore nice clothes, seems that generation didn't shower real often. "BO". "PU". I'd hate to be time travel teleported back to that era...

That was 'specially true when they went to church. The worst stinkys had to sit in their own Pew.

dieseljeep 06-13-2014 09:08 AM

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That was 'specially true when they went to church. The worst stinkys had to sit in their own Pew.

I always heard that saying was related to passing gas.
Still funny, just the same. :D

dieseljeep 06-13-2014 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tubejunke (Post 3106797)
Sometimes you have to do without in order to appreciate what most of us take for granted. I learned this about many things in life, but the topic is small screen TV sets. The power goes out a lot where I live for whatever reason. So I always have kept a small TV around that I could run on a power inverter from my truck's battery.

For years I had a 13" black and white which at the young age of 45 is not crazy small. That's all that me and my grandmother ever had when I was growing up and we didn't even think twice about it. Dad had the monolithic 25" remote controlled, color floor model in the basement, but we were happy with what we had.

Anyway, I donated the 13" a while back and found an 80s Panasonic AM-FM-TV portable that ran on D cells or AC line. It has like maybe a 4" black and white tube. Panasonic really had it going on with quality and durability back in the early to mid 80s. Everything I ever find is bullet proof. So, twice now the power has gone out and I lit the oil lamps and set the little tv on the coffee table and was perfectly content. It sure beat sitting there in the dark! The inverter runs the tv and either the DirecTv or free TV box for hours before the low voltage alarm sounds and I go crank the truck and recharge the battery.

Really I could easily run my bedroom 19" PANASONIC that plays around the clock many days without flaw. It would just run the battery down a lot quicker. It's another 80s set. I don't have the stuff for nostalgia; I just have it to use. Just regular stuff to me and works and lasts better than the crap their pushing these days.

My residence seems to be on the end of the line, from the power plant, as it seems that we have more power failures, than most.
I keep a small "Garden Tractor" battery in an old Igloo cooler. When the power goes out, we have no phone, cable or internet. I use a 200 watt H-F inverter, connected to the battery, operating my RCA "prison vision" and a 13 watt CFL in a desk lamp. A total of 68 watts.
The set has a built-in ATSC board an can receive Milwaukee channels, 41 miles away.
The longest, the power was out, was about 5 hours.

Coshi 06-13-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubejunke (Post 3106797)
I don't have the stuff for nostalgia; I just have it to use. Just regular stuff to me and works and lasts better than the crap their pushing these days.

Thats what I'm talking about, All of my 'antiques' As my freinds say are just the only thing that I have found that was cheep enuf/Good enuf for me. There all every day use stuff. IN fact the only thing I own that was made AFTER I was born is my cell phone and my computer. Everything else is pre-1993 and used everyday...

I think the oldest thing I own would be a toss up between my late 40's tostmaster toaster and my late 40's kirby vacuum cleaner.

Kamakiri 06-13-2014 06:02 PM

That gets harder and harder to accomplish as the years roll on :no:

Jon A. 06-13-2014 06:23 PM

Most of my stuff is for regular use *and* nostalgia. Sure I have stuff from before I was born, but was still commonly used when I was a kid, and those things are still perfectly suitable for use today as almost all technical advances since then have been completely unnecessary. None of those I would hang around with back then had the latest of everything.

Tubejunke 06-13-2014 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Coshi (Post 3106833)
Thats what I'm talking about, All of my 'antiques' As my freinds say are just the only thing that I have found that was cheep enuf/Good enuf for me. There all every day use stuff. IN fact the only thing I own that was made AFTER I was born is my cell phone and my computer. Everything else is pre-1993 and used everyday...

I think the oldest thing I own would be a toss up between my late 40's tostmaster toaster and my late 40's kirby vacuum cleaner.

WOW! We should start a thread on age and its effect on what one sees as an "antique" or simply common household goods. People I think tend to look with nostalgia at things from their childhood and back as the good stuff; the cool stuff; the better built stuff. I wonder how much of that is true.

Certainly products made in America were once build with pride, quality, and craftsmanship, along with good engineering aimed at making a product that is serviceable and if maintained would last a long time. I would say that this concept runs from anytime back in our history until the start of its downfall somewhere in the mid 1970s. It's a linear decline from there on and the worst part is that we started engineering products toward planned obsolescence and limited lifespan without serviceability.

It's just interesting that it appears that that Coshi is about 21 years old. Many things from just before he was born and throughout his childhood up to today to be honest are not of the superior quality that some of us decades older look back to. This is especially true with electronics and automobiles. TVs, stereos, VCRs, DVDs etc, have been the same Chinese made plastic crap since the 80s for the most part. Off course someone younger may say compared to what as they have never known or seen anything different. It's probably easier for them to see the quality changes of automobiles as there are more of them to see on the road or at shows, but vintage electronics are not readily available and cheap like they were when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s.

Thrift stores and flea markets were always full of lots of old radios. Aging 50s and 60s TVs were everywhere for a song if not for free. That's the thing; that was junk then! LOL!! I used to get these "roundie" color sets when I was taking electronics in high school and do a little repair work with my limited skills; watch them till they gave trouble and part them out as I had another waiting to take it's place. I had a basement full of those sets and parts along with a slew of 50s black and white sets. Heck, we had a Predicta in our school electronics lab! Just another old donation set for us to destroy.

So, will some young man in 2034 look back at the superior quality and nostalgia of a 2014 LG flat screen TV, or perhaps an I phone. Maybe he will use a Dell PC and a dial up modem! Will he be restoring his 2012 Hyundai Elantra. Hopefully he will have a little money and at least be able to go for the neo-retro muscle cars like Dodge Challenger or a Camaro. Maybe he can just find one of those Spencer Gifts Tesla globes to keep the electronics history interesting, or maybe a WalMart coffee percolator! LOL

Coshi 06-13-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubejunke (Post 3106879)
It's just interesting that it appears that that Coshi is about 21 years old. Many things from just before he was born and throughout his childhood up to today to be honest are not of the superior quality that some of us decades older look back to

Yea I know the new things I had when growing up where plastic Chinese junk, Thats why it all ended up being thrown out. It just happens that I learned that most things made before 1970-80 was the most reliable and the cheapest. Hell I whent through 3 refrigerators in 3 years, Then I said screw this and when to the junk shop and bought a pale green 1960's ish Frigidaire! its been with us for years since.

And this does seem to be derailing... (Sorry)

peter scott 06-14-2014 03:36 AM

The kids sat on your knee. ....or stood respectfully at the back.

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..but not everyone got a good view!

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More..

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decojoe67 06-14-2014 06:19 PM

I really enjoyed reading this post! - and the pics too. I think it's like with early radio. You tweak an old three-dialer and then get a flat tinny sound out of the horn. You have to realize that with something so new and amazing, it was all a total thrill. Same with all the issues of TV when it first appeared. I heard many people would turn their sets on and just look at the test pattern in amazement. In Queens, NY around 1948, my father said a neighbor bought a projection set (guess he had a few bucks!) and Tuesday night was a big event for the him and the neighbors to go over and watch the Texaco Star Theater. My father remembered being facinated by it.
Joe

Sandy G 06-14-2014 06:51 PM

I dunno-I kinda got the same feeling when I got MY 1st 3-dialer about 10, 15 yrs ago... I thought it was pretty amazing. And by then, I had several R-3XXs, a JRC NRD-535D, buncha other stuff. My dad said he saw his 1st TV when he was in the Army in 1949-50 or so. This one couple who were friends w/my parents & another couple would all gather in Stan & Elaine's TINY apt, pile up on the bed & stare at this little box..I think the apt basically had 2 or maybe 3 rooms, a bath, kitchen, bedroom/living room & that was it.

Electronic M 06-16-2014 07:28 PM

I have the same model of GE fan in the last picture. It was my grandfathers shop fan, and it likely would not exist today if I had not saved it when my mom and aunts were cleaning out grandmas house.

wa2ise 06-17-2014 04:39 PM

The Philco TV my grandparents had back in 1951 would be reasonably watchable compared to a 7" screen.
http://www.wa2ise.com/radios/familyalbum-phtv.jpg
Their living room was about 12 by 14 feet, and had a couch and an easy chair.

wa2ise 06-21-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamakiri (Post 3106766)
That's EXACTLY what I think of every time I see Jimmy Roberts on the Lawrence Welk show. ...
Every time I see him, I wanna say TAKE A BATH WILL YOU? :no:

A bit late for this, but now I recall from 40 years ago back in college a foreign student in our undergraduate English class mentioned to one of our hippie looking classmates (in raggedy jeans and tattered Tshirt saying "The Grand Wazoo") "You look like a bum.". I pointed out to him that our classmate may look raggedy, but his clothes are freshly laundered and he showered this morning as well. :yes: Bums aren't like that... :no:


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