What difference would shutting off your transmitters make?

Sorry, had to. :D

How did you know:scratch2:?
I just got two modulators for UHF from ebay and delivery was undetected.

Lucky guess. :thmbsp: I'm rather surprised you got your first (?) transmitters so recently.

Correct.

I'm lucky. My wife helps me find them. Right now she has two in the back of her SUV. She even claims some of them. They are all over the house and we are going to take one room and make it a display room.

Man, you really scored there!

This is why I've never gotten a console. I want one, but just don't have the room for one.

Around 10 years ago when I was young, dumb, and married, my wife made me through out my 25" Zenith console and VR1810 that was my grandmothers. I'm pretty sure that was the beginning of our demise.

I sold both my CT-100s about a year before my divorce due to financial issues. I feel your pain, but in the end it was a small price to pay :yes:

I've got a bunch of roundie aircraft carriers. Not sure how well stacking those would work......

So far I've managed to display my sets around the house without it looking like a "hoarders" episode...:thmbsp:

Not dumb bruh, just misinformed. I used to be envious of those who married young, but now realize that hand I was dealt was for the best. I can't imagine ever finding a good match for an oddball like me, but now I don't feel the need anyway! :banana: Now the snow is whiter on MY side of the fence.

Yes CRTs are beautiful.... Thier picture is amazing and 1 not to be overlooked for sure!!

Yah, it can be pretty awesome for such an old set. I don't have the heart to sideline my Electrohome, even as I get others running properly, so maybe I'll just have multiple units in one room and switch back and forth occasionally. I already have three in the living room, one in quite a few pieces as I rebuild the framework. Fortunately that's almost done.

The problem with collecting tv's answer is that our human nature will never be satisfied with what we have. Our very nature is to keep building our collection. To that end I started to only collect solid state tv's and only Sony brand set sizes not to extend beyond a 12 inch size. However I have 2 consoles that I could never part with. I consider myself an odd ball as I have never had anything but a picture tube set. I don't like referring to them as CRT as that vernacular was never used back in the day. We called them jugs, picture tubes, very seldomly CRT's. One thing very nice about a tube set is how it heats up a room it's in and makes watching it very cozy with its warmth.

I'm not the only one, I see!
 

Man , and here I was thinking I was crazy bring a 1955 Magnavox 21" B/W
and a 1948 Tele-King into a one-room apartment!..Yes, I'm addicted!...but it keeps me out of trouble..sort of.:banana::D

A ways back I was crammed into a small room in an apartment and the garage there...I had my bedroom packed wall to wall. Below was my main color TV wall.

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...y/DSCN0429.jpg

Some beautiful units there!!!

The biggest Irony is Irony! I'm 53 and had a dozen and a half of significant others but the collecting of stuff "tv's etc" wasn't the prob. Most were religious differences. Being a agnostic sucks for dating in the south. YMMV.

Agnostics and athiests are some of the most open minded people I know! (You can talk to them about anything and they dont poke fun,etc)

Okay, since no one else is going to say or do anything about this, and that I don't care about being popular, I'm going to speak up.

Just about everyone here knows that discussions about anyone's faith is forbidden here, so it's only fair that I ask that those without any to refrain from mentioning it so casually and/or making it sound like a real hay ride. I may be the only one here who feels this way but nevertheless I think my wishes should be respected. If that's out of the question then I'll just walk away, no big deal. I know my input here is considered to be of little to no value anyway.

You're *half* right.....but you're taking it over the edge.

There's nowhere in the rule books that says you can't state the category of your beliefs. It's when you espouse them onto others is where things go wrong. I'm a Christian (oops) and have no problem or argument with someone who has no set faith or believes what they want to believe.

When we try to change people's views in that regard, especially in a vintage television forum, is where things get stupid.

Hakuna matata :D

PS- "I know my input here is considered to be of little to no value anyway" must be how you judge yourself, because that's not how we judge you or see you. Not sure whether that was intended to give your argument credulity.....but it doesn't compute.

:D Well then , at the risk of getting two threads closed in two days , here goes ;

I have always believed in a higher spirit that holds all living things together and also heavily believe in Karma , as in "live by the sword , die by the sword". I do not believe in any of the organized religion's self appointed divinity , for instance to me the Catholic Pope is no more divine than any other man , the higher spirit having created ALL humans with equal abilities of divinity or debauchery , depending on the character of the soul involved .

And Jon , Your posts here are fine with me , having folks around with my kind of "peek behind the curtain" ethos makes for interesting conversation . I may not always respond to your posts , but there are many times I'm in complete agreement with you .

Things only get closed when they either get stupid, potentially stupid, or when they get derailed and go downhill fast. I've been doing this job on many boards for almost 17 years, so I've developed a feel for these things.

We're not there yet, but......

Thank you Captain , I appreciate how fair you are in such matters . Politics , religion , and even the origin of insults can indeed go downhill fast and the last thing I'd want to see is someone offended by the off topic chat .


:D God bless Vacuum Tubes :D

Back to the problem with collecting TVs - I find that the TVs tend to collect stuff themselves:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4821/4...14210e45_c.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4885/3...9723098b_b.jpg

That screenshot looks superb in a fairly bright lit room. I used to “DX” channel 5 from Milwaukee in the late 60’s, but WGN channel 9 was the clearest. I watched “Kup’s Show on Saturday night.

You stuff is neat. Collecting micros, no problem. The consoles are another thing.

Not a completely untouched photo of the CTC-5. Canon 50d and kit lens. The room was not that bright except for the wall behind, and I carefully arranged the lights not to hit the faceplate or the carpet that reflects in the glass. The CRT image was a bit overexposed and too blue, so I burned it in Lightroom. Also removed (in Photoshop) a white stripe on the left that the file player produced at this zoom setting.

Camera club subject of the month for January is "Antique," so I will title this "Antique Peacock."

The Zenith shot is straight out of my phone, just cropped left and right. The Zenith logo dish is not legit Zenith, but a one-of-a-kind made by a retired colleague from the standards committees.

Where did you find that screen image? NBC does not use the full-size peacock any longer, having retired it in 1975; however, they still use a much smaller peacock (with the NBC chimes) these days, which it shows just before its color programs in prime time. The small peacock, often in bland, drab black and white (!), is also shown after the network's promotions for the next show and before it goes to the local stations.

The NBC "snake" was also retired in 1975. I have many very fond memories of NBC's original peacock which was shown just before color programs on the network, with an announcer saying "The following program is brought to you in living color on NBC."

The NBC television station in Cleveland was owned by NBC from 1948 to 1955 and again from 1965 to 1990. (The station is now owned by Tegna, which has succeeded in running it into the ground, but that's another story.) I mention this because NBC also had regional announcements for local color programs, based on the network's own announcement. There were different versions for each city in which NBC owned a station. In Cleveland, the announcement was "The following program is brought to you in living color (over) WKYC-TV."


BTW, where did Chicago's NBC television station ever get the idea it is "the world's first full color TV station"? I'm sure other TV stations were broadcasting in color long before 1966, the year NBC-TV became the first so-called "full color" television network in the US. Also, I would think New York's WNBC-TV, being NBC's first TV station, should have been the station to take this honor. I don't think Chicago's NBC affiliate signed on the air until some time in the late 1940s-early 1950s, as there were very few, if any, commercial TV stations in the United States before 1947. Cleveland, for example, did not get its first television station until 1947; it was on channel 5 and was originally affiliated with CBS (it is now an ABC affiliate). In '48, channel 3 signed on as an NBC affiliate, and the following year, channel 8 signed on. (The grade-ZZZ UHF stations in Cleveland did not arrive until the mid-'60s through the mid-'80s, with one such station, channel 19, taking the CBS affiliation from channel 8 in the early nineties; from 1986 until about 1994 or so, 19 was an affiliate of that poor excuse for a TV network called FOX.) I believe channel 8 was an independent station at the time (1949), as the ABC television network did not exist until the late '50s or even early sixties.

Okay, glad that's been clarified. I'm certainly not one to split hairs; after all it's well known what trying to live by exact words did to Greg Brady. Some things, like the temporal prime directive, are much less of a headache if one just ignores them.

I suppose the main problem I have with collecting TVs is deciding what to do with those I don't watch which right now is all but one. If I had different rooms to put them in and extra DVD players I would do just that. The Hitachi MTS stereo TV/monitor I picked up yesterday would also do well if paired with a vintage computer. CRT PC monitors on the other hand I just can't be satisfied with anymore, I like having the extra clarity of a LCD panel when viewing small items/print at close range.

Thinking outside the cube, that's how I roll.

If you get a BT agile modulator your DVD player can be shared by all your TVs...

I don't remember what happened to Greg Brady and BTW, who's Esther and is her sister named Polly.

I still have to be hard-wired! I can't watch a picture that isn't almost perfect!

The BT can.look almost perfect... as long as signal strength is good and you can stand any resolution exceeding NTSC specs not making it to the set... If the set don't have a video input a BT is probably the second best thing to an actual analog NTSC tv station.

WMAQ, First full color station:

http://www.richsamuels.com/nbcmm/1968/fadeup2.html

jr

also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMAQ-TV

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How could you stand TV before digital? By today's standards, NTSC analog signals looked terrible compared to DTV. Unless you were in a very strong signal area, the pictures you would receive from local TV stations were far, far from perfect; this was especially true if you were in a fringe area. I remember two situations in which my TV reception was so bad as to be practically unusable: the first was in 1965, when the PBS (then NET) television station in Cleveland signed on the air with a measly 1-megawatt ERP signal, which barely reached the area I was living in at the time (an eastern Cleveland suburb in which TV reception with indoor antennas was not that great); the situation would not change for the better until years later, when the station put in a stronger transmitter, the concern that owned the station put in translators (neither of which I could get at my home at the time), and when my area finally got cable in the early 1980s. The second instance was twenty years later, when a new UHF station signed on in suburban Cleveland on channel 19. The station had a 3-megawatt-plus ERP analog signal at the time, but lightning hit their tower after being on the air just six months. The station was never the same after that, although in many ways, since DTV, the reception is worse, especially in far-suburban and fringe areas, since the station now has a 9.5-kW ERP DTV signal on channel 10. The station's owners stubbornly refuse to put its signal on a UHF channel or to put up a translator for the east lakeshore area (which would improve the coverage area 100 percent or more), but that's another story.

DTV is much better; however, the drawback is you must have a very strong signal, or else you don't get a picture at all. I don't know what your definition of an "almost perfect" DTV picture is, but in digital TV there is no such thing; again, with DTV, the picture either is there or it is not. I am purposely ignoring the case of DTV signals that appear pixelated or otherwise unwatchable (I get this every so often with my own setup, which receives video streams over the Internet, not RF signals; I gave up on OTA DTV over a year ago, since I live in an area that does not get two important Cleveland TV stations without cable, satellite or streaming video, although the other stations come in just fine, using just an indoor antenna).

I don't recall where I found that jpg of the Chicago peacock, but I definitely have it saved for use on the media player.
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See jr_tech's link to the WMAQ story.

By "full color" they meant all new locally produced material. Of course, they still had some monochrome shows on from the network and some old movies in B&W. But if it came from their studios, it was in color.

It's very hard to find material referencing Tommy Tint. Also, I have seen only one ebay listing, years back, for one of the multicolored desk phones that Illinois Bell/Western Electric made for their offices by assembling parts from several differently colored phone cases. I lost the bid.
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As a side note, I have often marvelled at how little control NBC kept over the color in various representations of the peacock. Every promotional item is different, most matching the general hues (and some not), but all differing in brightness, saturation, and exact hue. The form was all they really standardized. Even the on-air lead-ins, which were intended to have standard colors, were often distorted by excess contrast and color shifts from multi-generation copying.

I already have some BT mini mods in a rack chassis. I doubt the signal would be very strong but I would hard-wire everything anyway. Giving each set its own space is where things get tricky; I doubt the super would be happy if I were to build more rooms and have a unicomplex of sorts sprouting out the corner of the building.
Mike suspended his driving privileges after he nearly had an accident while reading the back of an album cover, so he borrowed a buddy's car, later reminding Mike that his exact words were to not drive *their* car while trying to let on that he didn't know better. Come on Greg, leave the technicalities to the lawyers. Mike agreed to let Greg live by exact words, but once that was put into action it really steamed Greg's clams and he eventually relented. I'm not big on the series but I like the movies.

By the way, knowing that the humorless Robert Reed hated "lowering" himself to comedy made it even funnier when he was in such scenes, i.e. slipping on a ball thrown by Cousin Oliver, causing him to smash his building model against the kitchen island.

It took me a little while to clue into the Polly Esther crack. The character Esther from the 2009 movie Orphan (pictured) may have had a sister by that name had the movie been made in the 70s. However, I knew someone who said she went to school with a Polly Esther; it's factual as far as I know.

There was never a channel 5 in Milwaukee!
In the late 60's, the only channels were 4-6-10-12-18-24-36. :scratch2:

He means he was DXing Chicago channel 5 from his location in Milwaukee.

I thought his location was around Green Bay, rather than Milwaukee, because of the reference to the GB Packers.