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avalon1308 07-21-2005 01:25 PM

Right, I think you're right, I am asked to make payement via Western union..... not via paypal to a guy in Chicago.
This guy is ready to ship tv to me in Europe!!!.
Any kind of protection against that?.

I surely wanted to get the set but was not in my price range and I know that lots of people wanna keep the set in US.

I can tell you, this would have been the best item of my rather big collection.
I'll keep on dreaming.

mkerdman 07-21-2005 05:06 PM

FYI- “The Ebay “Second Chance Offer” scam
 
I am the buyer and indeed will pay for and pick-up the CT-100.

This a common form of the “The Ebay “Second Chance Offer” scam.

SEE Ebay's Text:

"Marketplace Safety Tip

If this message is an offer to sell an item without winning it on the eBay Web site (including Second Chance Offers sent through My Messages) please do not respond to the sender. These "outside of eBay" transactions are unsafe and not covered by eBay purchase protection programs.

Never pay for your eBay item through instant wire transfer services such as Western Union or MoneyGram. These payment methods are unsafe when paying someone you do not know."

Be carefull out there!


Murray Kerdman

yagosaga 07-21-2005 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avalon1308
... my rather big collection.

What's your "big collection"? Can you give us an impression or even some pictures?

Carmine 07-21-2005 09:04 PM

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What's your "big collection"? Can you give us an impression or even some pictures?
Yes, Yes! Please, Please! We'd love to see your old I-talian TVees!!

And don't worry about "us" Americans getting upset that it goes to Europe... Nobody's gonna $pend that kinda bread to destroy it! I know some car collectors who get uptight about this, they're idiots. I love seeing pictures of old musclecars parked in front of ancient castles and such.

Last time I was in Hann Munden, this was the best pic I could find :worried: .... A car that we American's refer to as "Dustbuster-on-wheels". :lmao:

Tim 07-21-2005 09:56 PM

Congratulations on your purchase!

I drove 3000 miles round trip in my minivan to pick up my CT-100. I just did not feel comfortable letting others be responsible to handle it as it should be handled.

I left the CRT in place but removed the yoke. I felt it was better protected snuggled tightly in the set. It had made other long trips during its life configured that way and I figured one more would not hurt.

My wife went with me and we made an adventure out of the trip. We visited relatives and a couple of AK members as well.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

avalon1308 07-22-2005 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yagosaga
What's your "big collection"? Can you give us an impression or even some pictures?

OK,

Keep receiving second chance offer from ebay. WHY ME!!
I don't know how we can stop that.

Back to my collection.

I live in Italy but moved here not too long ago.
I am originally from Belgium and most of my collection (roughly 130 sets) is there.
I only have a few samples here with photos. I will add more photos when back in BE (end of august).

Most of the sets on pictures are belgian sets (PHILIPS). These sets all came with the french 819 lines positif modulation (L standard), belgian 819 lines positif modulation and reduced BW from 11 mhz to roughly 6mhz (B). Belgian 625 lines positive modulation (B) and "CCIR" or what will be, 625 lines negative modulation (E). Lots of different sound mods AM, FM and subcarriers all over the place, before and after video mod.
A few sets from France, some in un-opened original box from 1955 "Thompson Ducretet" with garantee.
One set 441 lines pre 1953. The french went from 441 lines to 819 lines and changed their transmitter after the Eifel tower cought fire I think in 53 or 54.
The 819 was abandoned in 1973 when the ORTF1 swithed to SECAM color 625 (L). Most of Europe was in PAL.

Some sets from Bulgaria and Russia.(Still crated from there, no time to deal with)
Some are UK sets 405 lines.(2 pics).
In the 50's and 60's it was common to be requested to manually change standards from one program to another.
" pour le programme suivant voulez-vous SVP passer en 819 lignes".
Meaning for the next program could you please switch to 819 lines. No remote, had to get up and manually change your set. In the 60's they all became automatic. The change would happen with clicking sounds in the set.

I have a few color sets from the 60's (multi-standards PAL-SECAM, no NTSC).
but no pics here. Still not really collectibles.

I also collect juke-boxes ( 10 of them) and bingo machines (45 in working order for a total of 60).
AK only let me put 5 pics.

Dom

avalon1308 07-22-2005 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avalon1308
OK,

Keep receiving second chance offer from ebay. WHY ME!!
I don't know how we can stop that.

Back to my collection.

I live in Italy but moved here not too long ago.
I am originally from Belgium and most of my collection (roughly 130 sets) is there.
I only have a few samples here with photos. I will add more photos when back in BE (end of august).

Most of the sets on pictures are belgian sets (PHILIPS). These sets all came with the french 819 lines positif modulation (L standard), belgian 819 lines positif modulation and reduced BW from 11 mhz to roughly 6mhz (B). Belgian 625 lines positive modulation (B) and "CCIR" or what will be, 625 lines negative modulation (E). Lots of different sound mods AM, FM and subcarriers all over the place, before and after video mod.
A few sets from France, some in un-opened original box from 1955 "Thompson Ducretet" with garantee.
One set 441 lines pre 1953. The french went from 441 lines to 819 lines and changed their transmitter after the Eifel tower cought fire I think in 53 or 54.
The 819 was abandoned in 1973 when the ORTF1 swithed to SECAM color 625 (L). Most of Europe was in PAL.

Some sets from Bulgaria and Russia.(Still crated from there, no time to deal with)
Some are UK sets 405 lines.(2 pics).
In the 50's and 60's it was common to be requested to manually change standards from one program to another.
" pour le programme suivant voulez-vous SVP passer en 819 lignes".
Meaning for the next program could you please switch to 819 lines. No remote, had to get up and manually change your set. In the 60's they all became automatic. The change would happen with clicking sounds in the set.

I have a few color sets from the 60's (multi-standards PAL-SECAM, no NTSC).
but no pics here. Still not really collectibles.

I also collect juke-boxes ( 10 of them) and bingo machines (45 in working order for a total of 60).
AK only let me put 5 pics.

Dom

Sorry, Ak would not take my pics, too big in size
will work on them
D+

Chad Hauris 07-22-2005 09:21 AM

Try uploading the photos to the "Photo Gallery" section, not to the discussion thread...there should be no limits on file size upload to gallery.

avalon1308 07-22-2005 10:43 AM

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Some pics now although they should be in the B&W section.
More later.
D+

bgadow 07-22-2005 11:35 AM

"No remote, had to get up and manually change your set. In the 60's they all became automatic. The change would happen with clicking sounds in the set."

Now, that is something neat! I had never heard of these before.

Very nice collection...and welcome to AK! As for those CT-100 offers, I would delete them as fast as you get them. They will stop sooner or later!

Sandy G 07-22-2005 11:49 AM

Yeah, pal, welcome to AK ! you're amongst friends here-quite a few TV nuts call this place home. Glad you got the CT-100-be good to it ! <grin>-Sandy G.

vintagecollect 08-01-2005 02:30 AM

Why Another Ct-100??
 
I'm glad a private person won TV. Why does museum want another CT-100 when already has largest collection of early color tvs ?????

Steve McVoy 08-01-2005 04:03 AM

We bid on the CT-100 because it appears to be in better condition than the one in our collection. If we had won it, we would have put the present set in our collection up for sale, so that another collector could have a fully restored set. Our goal is to have only one of each type of set.

old_tv_nut 08-01-2005 08:44 PM

vintagecollect,

When something is scarce, I think it's good for it to go where it will not only be restored, but will be available for everone to see. I would protest only if it was going to some place where it wouldn't be kept operable oir would be hidden forever.

I hope you will change your mind when you think about it and realize that if it had gone to Steve it would be more accessible than almost any other place.

That said , I think private collecting is OK and great fun - but I think you must admit that collecting things at an incorporated museum that is dedicated to making everything operable has simultaneously allowed for Steve to be close to the things he likes and for us all to share them, either in person or through the web site. Many private collectors may not be in a position to do this.

vintagecollect 08-02-2005 05:31 PM

Spread the CT-100s
 
I think it's great museum has several version of 15" sets for everyone to see for display, I'm just saying wether a museum or collector, anyone hoarding unusual amount of TVs will artificially inflate prices. I recently saw two RCA 621 TVs for sale even though B/W. They both went for a resonable price as more than one was available at same time.

:scratch2: :scratch2: :scratch2:

Eric H 08-06-2005 10:39 PM

CT-100 Knobs & Pencil Box
 
I guess, they might have come from a B&W model?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-RCA-Vict...QQcmdZViewItem

Damn, I hope they didn't make a Bar out of the rest???

Pete Deksnis 08-07-2005 01:27 AM

CT-100 knobs and...
 
The jury is still out, but they look enough like the real thing for an opening bid.

A true CT-100 channel selector knob has four holes for the dial lamp to shine through, and we'll need to see a picture of the pencil box open to check for hue and color.

Steve K 10-06-2005 10:12 PM

CT-100 update.
 
Murray's CT-100 was delivered to my house about two weeks ago. After the long trip from Ohio it still worked, but as stated in the eBay listing, it did not have color. Among other things it had a shorted hue control trimmer cap and I was able to find a close replacement for it from Ocean State Electronics. It took a bit of doing but I got it installed. I don't think that RCA figured that one of these would ever need to be removed. The color now works. The set however is now being fully recapped. It still had all the original electrolytics in it along with most of the paper caps. All the major parts including the vertical convergence transformer seem good (knock on wood). It is nice to work on an RCA where the horizontal actually runs at the right frequency!

I will post pictures after I get it recapped.

Steve

mkerdman 10-06-2005 11:49 PM

I am dusting off some floor space for this baby!

Does anyone have a clean video tape or PC file of the various NBC peacock A/V opening animations?


Murray Kerdman

polaraman 10-07-2005 12:12 AM

I have plenty of room here. I can save you the trouble! :D

Nice set! We are all waiting to see pictures of it working. :smoke:


polaraman

yagosaga 10-07-2005 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkerdman
Does anyone have a clean video tape or PC file of the various NBC peacock A/V opening animations?

See
http://www.ev1.pair.com/colorTV/colorTVlogos.html

mkerdman 10-07-2005 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yagosaga

Thanks!

But, I need a copy that can be played on a DVD/VHS over a 15" CT-100 and these small QucikTime/Real files become highly pixilated when maximized to that size.


Murray Kerdman

yagosaga 10-07-2005 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobgary
Yep, that's what we all want.

The 1960s NBC Peacock color intro is on my Ampex recording of the Bell telephone hour in full length and in NTSC.

yagosaga 10-07-2005 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobgary
I thought you also might have a vertical linearity problem on the CTC-5, as the round Bell Telephone and dial appears more egg-shaped than circular.

At first I thought too there is a vertical / horizontal linearity problem on the CTC-5. But it wasn't the CTC-5, it is on the video recording. Is is a linearity problem on the RCA TK-41 adjustment. There are some Ampex-tape caused line error bars in the whole picture too which are only visible on the tv screen.

Joel Cairo 10-07-2005 01:25 PM

If you don't mind the fact that the audio will be wrong, the video of the diamond-pointed peacock is available on the "Clarabell Speaks" Howdy Doody DVD that was released about 4 years ago.

-Kevin

Pete Deksnis 10-08-2005 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobgary
...the Mary Martin "Peter Pan" DVD which *may* have the 1950's animated peacock at the beginning. With the VHS version it was removed.

Back in the late '80 when this show was rebroadcast on NBC, I recorded it on VHS and have recently tried to recover the peacock with marginal results, although it's better than nothing. Hopefully, the DVD version turns out to be better quality. Otherwise, if there's nothing better I can recapture it and copy it to a DVD. BTW, the bird on the left is from a 1968 Laugh-in on DVD via CT-100 circuits :)

Steve Hoffman 10-08-2005 06:35 PM

Sorry, guys; I haven't had a chance to get the PETER PAN DVD so I have no idea if what you want is on there.... :no:

mkerdman 10-08-2005 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Hoffman
Sorry, guys; I haven't had a chance to get the PETER PAN DVD so I have no idea if what you want is on there.... :no:

I just bought the Peter Pan 1960 DVD with Mary Martin
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...s=dvd&n=507846 which says "Mastered from the live 1960 broadcast on NBC" so well see if the NBC opening/closing is on there.

Trivia about Peter Pan:
During its Broadway run in 1954, arrangements were made to present the Mary Martin "Peter Pan" on television. After a limited run onstage, it was televised live in 1955 with the entire original cast. It created a sensation, becoming one of the highest-rated shows up to that time, and spawning a series of televised musical children's stories, none as successful as this one. It was re-staged live with the same cast only a few months later. In 1960 it was finally videotaped, with virtually the same cast (except for the children) and this time at its full-length. It is one of the first instances in which a Broadway stage production has been duplicated exactly for television.
Mary Martin and Cyril Ritchard recreate their Tony Award winning performances in this production.

Murray Kerdman

Steve D. 10-08-2005 11:41 PM

Murray,

I hate to be a mood killer here, and have posted this info before. I have the VHS version of the 1960 Peter Pan telecast. It was also released by Goodtimes Video. It also runs 100 min. I have to believe that Goodtimes just transfered that print to DVD. The cover art on the case is the same, except it says "30th Anniversary Collectors Edition" along the bottom.
I'd be interested to see if the Peacock opening was added to this DVD.

-Steve D.

mkerdman 10-09-2005 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve D.
Murray,

I hate to be a mood killer here, and have posted this info before. I have the VHS version of the 1960 Peter Pan telecast. It was also released by Goodtimes Video. It also runs 100 min. I have to believe that Goodtimes just transfered that print to DVD. The cover art on the case is the same, except it says "30th Anniversary Collectors Edition" along the bottom.
I'd be interested to see if the Peacock opening was added to this DVD.

-Steve D.

Steve

Well, if the NBC opening is not on the DVD (release over a year after the VHS tape), I'll still have a nice piece of vinatge color TV demo material with a better-than-VHS transfer quality.

DVD Details:
Encoding: All Regions
Format: Color
Aspect Ratio(s): 1.33:1
Audio Encoding: Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo
Rated: NR
Studio: Goodtimes Home Video
DVD Release Date: October 26, 1999
Run Time: 100
Available subtitles: Spanish
Available Audio Tracks: English (Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo)
Mastered from the live 1960 broadcast on NBC


VHS Details:

Format: Color, Closed-captioned, NTSC
Rated:
Studio: Goodtimes Home Video
Video Release Date: May 5, 1998
VHS Features:
NTSC format (US and Canada only. This VHS will probably NOT be viewable in other countries. Read more about VHS formats.)
Color, Closed-captioned, NTSC

Murray Kerdman


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