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Originally Posted by ihmeyers (Post 2570466)

Interestingly, I've got a bunch of old network tapes of shows run in color that were recoded at the network in B&W. Wonder why they would do that?? Anyway glad to help out. People on this board have been very helpful to me. :D

I have a lot of old programming like that too. One show in particular is Ozzie & Harriet. The final season of that show (1965-1966) was the only one shot in color. When episodes turn up of that season, they are usualy b&w. The only color episodes that show up are about 4 that were released by Shout Factory. They are the only DVD's authorized by the Nelson family and they have been edited for syndication. These edited version were done in the 80's when Harriet Nelson hosted the show on The Disney Channel. The colors are washed out and need to be restored.

I have heard that some network affiliates couldn't brodcast color and were given b&w copies of shows. I have also heard that copies were made like that to ship over seas during the war for soldiers to watch. A lot of live shows were filmed in kinescopes (which is horrible). This was done by pointing a camera towards a monitor and filming it off there. A lot of shows only survive in this format. American Bandstand and Shindig are prime examples of this. A lot of daytime shows were not saved back then and were thrown out or the tape re-used. Soap Opera fans complain that a lot of early footage from long running shows no longer survive. I think I read Young and The Restless that started in the early 70's is one of the few that saved their footage.

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Originally Posted by Pete Deksnis (Post 2567872)

Believe it. TK-41's continued to be used at NBC's New York and Burbank studios up to around mid-1969 when TK-44A's were broken in.

In the August 1969 edition of Broadcast Engineering, in an article about TV coverage of the moon landing, there was a picture of an NBC crew using a Norelco PC-70 camera, with "NBC Color," the NBC snake in a box - and the Norelco logo taken out, not unlike what CBS had done with RCA TK-10/30 and TK-11/31 cameras way back when.

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Originally Posted by Pete Deksnis (Post 2567872)

A few years ago I acquired a Guthy-Renker DVD of the October 7, 1968 Laugh-In marked LGDVD001. Screen cap of the bird attached. [apparently not; seems i've maxed out at 3.3 Meg of pix upload; they're kidding, right!]

The consensus is that it was shot with RCA TK-41 cameras.

Can you comment on the color accuracy of the DVD? My interest is in early color programming that can be used as accurate source material for demonstrating the CT-100.

Pete

Pete, The DVD line was totally different from our side of the plant.

I was rarely over there.

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Originally Posted by Oldstuff78 (Post 2600614)

... I think I read Young and The Restless that started in the early 70's is one of the few that saved their footage.

As well as the ABC afternoon soap "Dark Shadows" from 1966-71, although some of the 1,225 episodes survive only in B/W kinescope form.