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ceebee23 09-06-2014 11:35 PM
Nice find!!!!

Now please pardon the ignorance of foreigner... but in the control panel we have "Color Fidelity"? Is this a simple white balance control or something fancier?

Steve D. 09-08-2014 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rca2000 (Post 3114248)
When I saw that picture--at first I thought the same thing...there are a LOT of tv's that need saving !! Then I noticed the tile floor and realized it was Doug's basement.

BTW--I saw an early- to mid 60's Dumont roundie color set sell some time back at the ETF convention.
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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3114489)
That was the first ETF convention I went to, and the first auction there that I won. I owned that set for only a few minutes though...I only could haul one set home (and I badly wanted to buy a color roundy set), and wanted a certain black metal Silvertone color roundy (which they auctioned off later) more due to being an apartment dweller back then. Before I bid a nice fellow who knew I wanted the Silvertone more, but was more concerned with not returning home empty handed offered to buy the Dumont off of me if I won the Silvertone...Which I did.

So my first roundy was a Dumont...Technically.
Here's a couple of photos of that DuMont roundie at the 2009 ETF. Looks like an RCA clone.

-Steve D.

Electronic M 09-08-2014 11:57 PM
The one I was talking about was at the 2010 convention IIRC and it was a lighter cabinet with a different control layout, and IIRC a bigger tuning knob...

Steve D. 09-09-2014 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3114736)
The one I was talking about was at the 2010 convention IIRC and it was a lighter cabinet with a different control layout, and IIRC a bigger tuning knob...
But other then all that. Do I get points for even posting an ETF DuMont roundie photo. Lol.

-Steve D.

marty59 09-09-2014 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ceebee23 (Post 3114569)
Nice find!!!!

Now please pardon the ignorance of foreigner... but in the control panel we have "Color Fidelity"? Is this a simple white balance control or something fancier?
The color fidelity control will alter/change the grey scale slightly. Sears had a similar control called "chromix".

Electronic M 09-09-2014 02:16 PM
@ Steve: Sure! It's actually rather surprising/cool that they had two different ones two years in a row...I was merely pointing out the differences.

@ Marty: IIRC my Airline console has a grayscale tweaking control. I think it's a switch on the back labeled Cinema or Theater or something like that.

old_tv_nut 09-09-2014 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by marty59 (Post 3114772)
The color fidelity control will alter/change the grey scale slightly. Sears had a similar control called "chromix".
Magnavox had a similar switch that changed the image to sepia.

Motorola on some models had a control that went from blue shadows to sepia shadows. It was actually useful to get correct grayscale tracking because the tracking could change when replacing the single-tube chroma oscillator/demodulator.

zenith2134 09-09-2014 05:10 PM
Yes, my 1966 Magnavox color set had a Chromatone control which added sepia to the picture.

dieseljeep 09-09-2014 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3114778)
@ Steve: Sure! It's actually rather surprising/cool that they had two different ones two years in a row...I was merely pointing out the differences.

@ Marty: IIRC my Airline console has a grayscale tweaking control. I think it's a switch on the back labeled Cinema or Theater or something like that.
Tom! Are you sure that the Airline set, you have was made by Muntz?
There was a few Wards Airlines, that were made by Hoffman.
It was the same old RCA clone, CTC15 design, that was identical to the Muntz's of the day. The part numbering system was different.
I didn't know that Hoffman was still around, let alone in Chicago. It was bought out by Admiral in the later 60's. :scratch2:

Electronic M 09-10-2014 04:15 PM
Not 100%. Someone here (Bgadow IIRC) had an Airline combo with and IDENTICAL looking TV section that he somehow referenced the numbers of back to Muntz...That is the only basis I have to think that...Also it has been months since I've turned that set on, longer still since I've read the manual, and ~3 years since I've seen the back so I could be WAY off base going strictly by memory.....
I could check the control labels/manual and try to pull some numbers on it later if anyone cares enough to want that.

AUdubon5425 09-11-2014 10:56 PM
Nice unusual set. Chassis looks identical to the one in my Pilot set:
http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=252810

Fairlane500skyliner 09-14-2014 07:35 PM
What an amazing find Doug! :thmbsp: The condition of that set looks outstandingly pristine. Did it have any of the original paperwork with it?

Chris

bgadow 09-25-2014 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3114884)
Not 100%. Someone here (Bgadow IIRC) had an Airline combo with and IDENTICAL looking TV section that he somehow referenced the numbers of back to Muntz...That is the only basis I have to think that...Also it has been months since I've turned that set on, longer still since I've read the manual, and ~3 years since I've seen the back so I could be WAY off base going strictly by memory.....
I could check the control labels/manual and try to pull some numbers on it later if anyone cares enough to want that.
My Airline has a Muntz EIA number clearly marked on the back; I never would have guessed if it weren't for that.

The DuMont I have with that chassis, still basically NOS when I got it, had some interesting bugs in it that took some time to fix. After that it became a reliable and reasonably good performer. Something I find interesting is how much trouble they went to to differentiate the DuMont from the Emerson.


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