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dieseljeep 12-23-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebird (Post 3057290)
Anyone here ever work for Magnavox?

The ones that are still around, probably ended up in a rubber room. :D
I never kept it a secret, that I was never thrilled with Magnavox TV's.
Too many PITA call-backs. :thumbsdn:

holmesuser01 12-23-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3057365)
The ones that are still around, probably ended up in a rubber room. :D
I never kept it a secret, that I was never thrilled with Magnavox TV's.
Too many PITA call-backs. :thumbsdn:

There were several Maggie models that gave me fits. Several of the tube models come to mind, and the first all solid state console with the board connectors that would literally BURN.

I got alot of repair business out of Magnavox sets after the factory warranty ended. Same with RCA, and a very few Zenith sets.

I needed the Magnavox name so I could buy parts from them, as they didn't like doing business with just anybody.

I'd consider a rubber room if the time ever comes. At least if I hit the floor, I wouldn't be hurt, much.

Firebird 02-26-2013 09:09 AM

I can not find a repair manual. Does anyone know of a part that may cause these problems. Can a bad flyback prevent color or sound?

jstout66 02-26-2013 01:51 PM

I thought the non-stop posts about that stupid Samsung annoyed me until I saw the threads on this set.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO DUDE. It is NOT YOUR FLYBACK (for like the millionth time) DUH!

Eric H 02-26-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jstout66 (Post 3062917)
I thought the non-stop posts about that stupid Samsung annoyed me until I saw the threads on this set.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO DUDE. It is NOT YOUR FLYBACK (for like the millionth time) DUH!

Wow dude, did you forget your morning Coffee? :scratch2:

jstout66 02-26-2013 02:03 PM

Sorry Eric,
But geez...... have you read this thread from the beginning?
I do believe the 5 hour energy I took has made me cranky tho. (haha)

Firebird 02-26-2013 04:17 PM

I dont drink coffee

Dude111 02-26-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebird
I have a 1981 Magnavox tv. Model number RA5054. It has a t815-09 chassis. It has not worked for a while but somehow i have convinced my mother not to throw it away.

Very nice......... I wanna wish ya luck getting her going :):)

Firebird 02-28-2013 09:02 PM

I love a good Magnavox. Specially the old classic 25 inch consoles.

jstout66 03-01-2013 06:28 AM

I like that scene in the movie "Carrie" where the mother tells her: "They're all gonna laugh at you!" It's especially good when watching it on a Magnavox of that vintage that actually works........

Firebird 03-07-2013 06:39 PM

What is wrong with wanting advice from experts?

dieseljeep 03-08-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jstout66 (Post 3063141)
I like that scene in the movie "Carrie" where the mother tells her: "They're all gonna laugh at you!" It's especially good when watching it on a Magnavox of that vintage that actually works........

Is that the movie with the teen-age girl and the weird mother. She started to bleed in the girl's shower room and didn't know about it. :D

Firebird 03-08-2013 03:03 PM

I like the movie Psycho. He was his mother.

davet753 03-09-2013 09:38 AM

Firebird, you're liable to never get this set fixed until you get a diagram that will enable you to properly troubleshoot and diagnose the problem. Someone gave you the Sams Photofact file number, so you can go to Sams website and order a copy. Or, you can check ebay for one.

Either way, you might spend $20 for the service manual but that's a heck of a lot cheaper than buying parts to throw at it in the hopes that you might just hit the right one. Often times, certain chassis are known to have certain problems and certain parts that everybody knows cause problems...those are the easy ones, but your issue doesn't sound like one of those.

You came to the right place to get answers, so I suggest you take that advice and buy the service manual.

Norbert 03-09-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebird (Post 3063614)
What is wrong with wanting advice from experts?

I am curious if you have verified if all wires are in fact OK (good/acceptable) You must remember you are working on a TV that is now 32(+) years old! Wires of this age can break down over time, causing an increase in resistance in the copper conductor (or aluminum in some special cases due to corrosion due to the presense of moisture) which can lower the operating voltage(s) needed for CRITICAL circuits! However YOU MUST and I stress the word MUST be VERY and I stress the word VERY careful when working in and around a powered (or unpowered) TV (television) set of this age (1981 as you mentioned earlier in this thread, on April 16, 2012 at 5:32 PM). There are DANGEROUS, I repeat DANGEROUS voltages in and around the printed circuit board (the thin composite sheet like "board" that contains the (majority) of TV (television) components). The CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) contains the highest of dangerous voltage(s). If one is not aware of these dangerous voltages (a schematic diagram is of the utmost importance) the service technician may be at risk of potential electrocution not to mention damage to electrical (or electronic) testing/analyzing equipment. I STRONGLY ADVISE that YOU be fully familiar with the operation characteristics and voltages of this TV (television) before performing ANY, I repeat ANY electronic repair/service work. You may want to seek (find/locate) a schematic diagram for your particular TV (television) and CAREFULLY study (comprehend) it so that YOU may be FULLY AWARE of these voltages. :yes:

jstout66 03-09-2013 12:27 PM

I would concur with Norbert. The voltages are VERY dangerous.
Also, I'm not sure if you're aware, (as your TV became inoperable before the transition) but there are no analog signals OTA (over the air), and you will need to get a set-top box and use that remote, because if indeed your Magnavox ( not the company in existance today) has a remote option, you will be better off with a set top because if it is ultrasonic, it will damage your hearing. Also.. and most don't realize this, is that early 80's sets usually had an LED read-out, and you must NOT look at it for very long, as it could burn your retinas out......

Bill R 03-11-2013 08:28 PM

A quick look at the schematic I think you have two seperate problems. You may need to change the chroma module, and the audio module. The only module that affects both is the secondary control module. You need to verify the power to each of these modules first. Volume, tone, color, and tint controls are on the secondary control module. Check the connections to this module. Power from these is not from the flyback. It comes from the 30 volt power supply, but this also provides power for a lot of the modules so I doubt there is a problem there.

RCAkid 03-11-2013 09:32 PM

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Also.. and most don't realize this, is that early 80's sets usually had an LED read-out, and you must NOT look at it for very long, as it could burn your retinas out......
I never heard of a light emitting diode (LED) causing issues with viewing. With laser devices, yes, but not LED's. I sure saw a lot of my red LED clock radio in the late 70's, early 80's that was sitting right on my nightstand. Were the tv manufacturers using something odd or different for channel displays? Last time I checked, LED's were just a fast pulsing, non focused light, especially in segment displays as the light was super diffused.

I have only come across 7 segment modules for each number or a fluorescent, plasma like tube display if there were other colors beyond red in the display.


Would love to know more about this.

Firebird 03-11-2013 10:09 PM

Does anyone have a chroma module and sound module?

Bill R 03-11-2013 10:30 PM

Check those supply voltages, and the secondary control panel connections before you start changing modules.

Norbert 03-12-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebird (Post 3063949)
Does anyone have a chroma module and sound module?

I have (own) them both (2 modules), in used (but working) condition. However, they (the modules and TV set) were last working some number of years ago. It is imperative to note that there is no guarantee on the functional status (working condition) of these particular referenced modules. I would like to get $100 for each (individual) module (chroma and sound as initially requested) plus the cost of S+H (shipping and handling). If you are interested, please PM (private message) me via the Video Karma messaging system. However, if you are not interested, you do not need to PM (private message) me. Only PM (private message) me if you are interested. However, if you are NOT interested you may also reply back on this public discussion board (the forum).

consoleguy67 03-12-2013 04:52 PM

:lmao:

Firebird 03-12-2013 05:42 PM

:banana:If only it were true.

holmesuser01 03-12-2013 06:57 PM

4 Attachment(s)
This is all I have on this anymore.

jstout66 03-12-2013 07:09 PM

:lmao:
HAHAHAHAHA! Norbert... As I was reading the post, I thought it was another member that posts in a similar style. I still can't quit laughing!

Firebird 03-12-2013 08:08 PM

Thanks holmesuser01

Norbert 03-13-2013 08:51 AM

I don't understand the humor, as frankly, I am somewhat disappointed but also confused as to what was/is so humorous? :dunno:. But regardless, if you (Firebird) are interested (in the modules) then they are available for the aforementioned (previously stated) price. Regards to all (everyone).

jstout66 03-13-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Norbert (Post 3064097)
I don't understand the humor, as frankly, I am somewhat disappointed but also confused as to what was/is so humorous? :dunno:. But regardless, if you (Firebird) are interested (in the modules) then they are available for the aforementioned (previously stated) price. Regards to all (everyone).

Sorry Norbert! I didn't mean to offend or cause confusion. I was confusing you with another VK (Video Karma) member, who also is extremly detailed in (his) replies.

Norbert 03-13-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jstout66 (Post 3064114)
Sorry Norbert! I didn't mean to offend or cause confusion. I was confusing you with another VK (Video Karma) member, who also is extremly detailed in (his) replies.

I understand. Thank you for the explanation. Regards.

Firebird 03-13-2013 07:20 PM

They cost more than the tv when it was new.

Firebird 03-13-2013 07:37 PM

When i adjusted the horizontal board color came back. still no sound. Did not change size of picture.

holmesuser01 03-13-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebird (Post 3064161)
They cost more than the tv when it was new.

No they don't.

Eric H 03-13-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Norbert (Post 3064097)
But regardless, if you (Firebird) are interested (in the modules) then they are available for the aforementioned (previously stated) price. Regards to all (everyone).

Seriously? $100 each for modules for a TV he'd be lucky to get $25 if it was working perfectly?

This thread has deteriorated badly, perhaps I should just close it?

radiotvnut 03-13-2013 10:00 PM

Let me look and see what I have. At one time, I had a few Magnavox modules from this era. If I still have them and if you can use them, I'd be more than happy to give them to you.

I probably shouldn't say this in public; but, I'm going to. Those $100 modules are a rip-off and it's just a case where, "he needs them; so, they are now valuable".

Over the years, people have been very generous in giving me needed repair parts to fix various things and if I have something here that I have no use for that someone else can use to fix something; then, why not give it to them? Besides, I'm doing this as a hobby and not to get rich.

I've also had people attempt to stick it to me on parts that would have otherwise likely ended up in the dump; but, I don't have a problem with saying "no" to such people.

Firebird 03-13-2013 11:11 PM

Thanks

Firebird 03-16-2013 01:13 PM

Disconnected the speaker wires that go from the mother board to the ten watt amp. Reconnected to the speaker. Got very faint sound with the volume all the way up.

radiotvnut 03-16-2013 02:38 PM

In that case, the problem is most likely on the external amp chassis. First, you need to check and see if you're getting B+ voltage to the amp.

Firebird 03-16-2013 09:10 PM

Where should i check, the power supply?

holmesuser01 03-16-2013 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by radiotvnut (Post 3064474)
In that case, the problem is most likely on the external amp chassis. First, you need to check and see if you're getting B+ voltage to the amp.

Hmm. I dont recall a 10 watt amplifier on these sets. I'm not doubting anyone, but I dont remember ever seeing one. I started seeing power amps when MTS stereo came along around 1984.

Bill R 03-16-2013 11:31 PM

I don't recall a 10 Watt amplifier on these sets either. Maybe added by earlier repair shop to solve a sound problem. Schematic shows speaker connected to pin 5 of P1 on the sound module through a coil. Was this set a combo?


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