Admiral Roundie rescue in Gallatin today
 

On my way to pay rent to the landlord, I see a pile of furniture under a awning of a mom and pop auto parts place. i instantly recognize a console tv set sitting there. had to stop and look and it is a Admiral color roundie. Since it was Sunday when i saw it and they were closed, I remembered the name and gave them a call Monday, they said the owners mother had passed away and it was hers, they asked me if i wanted it. Duh! I was able to get it home today, but it will take a few hours before my neighbor gets home and he can help me get it out of the wagen so i can take pictures of it. The chassis number is 23d1163 or a 23dw63 its hard to tell they blurred the number at the factory. the cabinet model is LD2179D
Logan

Cool! Can't wait to see pics. I love it when they turn up out of nowhere like that. Lucky dog!

Here are the first few pics, It has a 21fjp22 crt

Nice! And the price was right. It's still amazing how a set this old can still turn up that way outside in a pile of unwanted furniture. Great save, keep us posted.

Gilbert

Hi,

Nice save! More deluxe than the old Admiral Roundie my grandmother used to own. Ours was an early model and had a fairly nice picture. It was prone to needing service rather often. I wish it hadn't been thrown out. I could have revived it with a proper restoration. I do have a similar model which I did restore. After dealing with electrolytics and a few bad tubes and a Hawkeye CRT rebuild, it has been reliable.

what brand crt is in the set. someone mentioned their admiral had a dumont in it. our first color set was an admiral roundie was a great set but it was in a cheap looking cabinet i love your french looking cabinet. great score. steve

Congratulations ! That is a nice set. Love that cabinet style. If only I could find a Roundie in the trash or at a Goodwill.

The crt actually has Admiral printed on the bell, Is there a code number or something that points towards the actual crt manufacturer?
I slowly brought the set up on a variac with a amp meter and there is audio hiss but no HV and the crt filaments do light up. cross your fingers for me as i dig deeper into this beast. Logan

WOW nice find, and a reverse chassis too boot, the transformer is on the wrong side. :D Is the cabinet Blonde, or that pickeled oak finish???

I believe another member on here has the same model set but with tambor style doors that cover the front. His produced a very nice picture and was found in a simial way to yours. Cant wait to see this one up and going. Nice find!
-Tony

Very nice find! I hope the CRT is good!

Good news and bad news on the roundie, Bad news is the nylon tuning shaft for the UHF knob has broken off, I turned the knob normally " i'm not a gorilla" and it sheared right off. The good news after some slow variacing, and cleaning some connectors..... I have first light!! It's dim and a little bit purple but there is almost a discernible image. Yeah!!! Logan
P.S. i think the wood finish is a Pickled Oak.

Nice!!!! I love that model. It has the "backwards chassis" That thing should restore beautifully, I hope you can find a tuning shaft or fix the old one. rcaman, that was me who has a Dumont in their Admiral. Mine is a '65 with the 3-G11 chassis. Yours looks like a late '63 or a '64. Careful with that convergence yoke, that is the kind that is super easy to break. Great save Logan!!

I've seen lots of ads for the Admirals with that control panel but never seen a set in person. This looks like the same chassis as my T1000. (mine is the cheapest of the cheap) I was just tinkering with mine this week, trying to figure out a HV problem. Although it is a 'reverse' chassis, they took lots of cues from RCA. Not hard to work on. Great find!

if that tuning shaft is like an rca,then i have several.good looking set-cabinet looks similiar to my 15.hope that crt is good.admiral made a decent set back then and yours looks unmolested.not like the stuff we been finding lately.great find and save!!!

nice save , really cool set .

That crt is almost certainly an RCA, code 274 I think it is? It wasn't until later in the decade that Admiral made its own color tubes. I think the DuMont that was mentioned was a rebuild.

It does appear to be a rebuild. My set has a million hours and ten min. on it:D

Stunning good find! I always thought that control panel was a great idea!

May the old TV Gods smile on you for saving it! :thmbsp:

I'm always happy to hear of a rescue! Can't wait to see more photos! Only "did" one Admiral, an early 25" Canadian model with "scrulox" square head screws (pain in the butt), that I fixed up with a new CRT for a friend at college. It was passed down to different members of her family until it "smoked" years later. Good pix and performance while it lived.
Kevin

Well i've spent some more time cleaning controls and tweaking adjustments, I have color now and closer to a white balanced raster, but i seem to be having a focus problem, here is a picture update. Logan

Looks good for day one. Have you tried cleaning the 1V2 focus rect. socket? Had a hell of a time with mine, also had bad connections at the CRT pin and some bad resistors. Got a whole new fly and started from scratch. Good luck!

grey scale looking good! check that focus tube and crt socket and pins. i think you may have a huge save on your hands.that is a great set.

Focus has been my problem, too. I found a good "tough-dog" article out of a 60s trade magazine that covered a poor-focus Admiral. While it didn't really cure my problem, it did teach me a lot about the circuit. I need to dig it out again. My problem swirls around high regulator & HO tube currents. I changed my flyback (the old one looked terrible and ran extremely hot) but I'm still overlooking something, maybe a resistor somewhere? I'll be paying close attention to your progress!

After some investigation of the crt, I think my focus problem is caused by the PVA layer of the safety glass. I think it has turned milky white. I examined the front of the crt with a magnifying glass and i can't see any tricolor pixels, but i can with my other tv sets. When Doug or someone comes up with a new and improved cataract removal proceedure. I think mine will be a good candidate. Here are a few more picts 1 is a close up of the front of the crt. Logan

try your focus control and see if you have enough range. if so.then its that safety glass. as bad as that appears to be,it just might fall off!when you get tired.i will buy that set from you.awesome find,at worst you might need a crt.at best,could be a resistor or the glass.anyway you go,you win!

Doug's method works well, I just would never try it on a 23EGP22. Wear a safety shield and heavy clothing and you'll be fine. I think Ron's right, the way it looks, it might fall off! I have also heard of soaking it in diesel fuel for a few days, a guy I was talking to at the ETF told me that, says it worked for him. Good luck and I'm jealous of that Admiral,:D you just don't find the round ones anymore.

I think I would use a High voltage probe and actually check the High voltage and the focus voltage. Looks like you have a low focus voltage. I see the cataract on the crt, but you have a uniform out of focus picture. High voltage should be about 25KV and the focus should be around 5KV. If high voltage is low, the focus voltage will also be low. Check the focus control it should have a noticeable effect even if the glass is the issue. You may have a bad focus rectifier tube, or socket. I have also seen defective crt socket cause bad focus. The focus coil itself could be bad as well. You really need to know what the focus voltage is first.

Bill R

The model # LD2179D and the tilt-out control panel suggest a high end 1965 model. Nice find.

-Steve D.

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That is why i'm thinking my focus problem isn't a electrical one. Here is a close up pict of my Zenith Chromacolor and you can see the tricolor dots real easy. I think the pva of the Admiral has turned into the opacity of a white shower curtain. Logan

I second the PVA opacity theory - this is my 1965 Admiral with a slightly cataracted 23EGP22. The spot in the center was still bonded to both the tube face and the safety glass, so I was able to set greyscale and focus there. Still couldn't watch the set, though. :)

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progress report on the Admiral roundie
 

Well I fixed the UHF tuning shaft. I tried gluing the 2 sections back together, didn't hold. I tried melting the 2 sections back together, didn't hold. Then i noticed that the nylon shaft had a steel core inside of it. I found an old aluminum potentiometer' D shaft and got the idea of drilling a hole in the center of the shaft that matched the diameter of the steel core, then cutting away some of the nylon to match the depth of the hole in the replacement section. to hold the sections together, I drilled a radial hole and fitted a small cotter pin. works like a charm, now.
I'm still looking for a proper sized trash can to support the crt while performing cataract surgery. Here are a few picts of my failed attempts and finally the successfull shaft repair, Logan

i sent you a pm. steve