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bandersen 11-12-2009 09:04 PM

Blonder Tongue agile modulator settings
 
I just picked up a Blonder Tongue AM60-550B without a manual :(

Can someone help me out with the front panel settings and rear connecors ?

I think the output channel is set using a little binary math. Channel 5 would be 0000 0101 - right?

How about those switches to the left? Should I use STD or BROADCAST if I'd like to transmit to my vintage TVs?

Finally, do I need to do anything with the jacks and screw terminals in the middle of the back? I have a different, older model that has a short coax connecting the IF IN to IF OUT. Do I need that ?

Thanks!

Phil Nelson 11-13-2009 12:33 AM

There is a little pull-out card under "Channel Selector" that gives the DIP switch settings. At least, there is on my AM60-550B. If yours is missing, let me know -- I can take a digital photo and post it.

I didn't touch anything in the back. I do have the short jumper coax cable.

Anything seems to work as an antenna -- rabbit ears, a length of wire. Today I tested mine by walking outdoors with my Panasonic Travelvision handheld TV. The signal was perfect about 100 feet from the house. Around 200 feet outside, the signal got snowy but was still watchable.

Phil Nelson

bandersen 11-13-2009 01:26 AM

Hi Phil,

Nope, I don't have a pull-out card. I'd love a photo.

I couldn't find a decent piece of coax so I just used a little bit of wire to jumper that IF IN/OUT.
Bingo :banana: I'm broadcasting :music:

Range seems good, but the signal is noisy. I'm hoping that due to my crude hookup. I'll keep hunting for a sort length of coax with the right connectors.

Phil Nelson 11-13-2009 12:48 PM

Here's a photo of the card.

http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/BTCard.jpg

Peering back at your photo, it looks like I have an extra set of DIP switches. I believe the 550 in the model number means that mine can reach higher frequencies than the 450. If I were designing this stuff, I'd make the two models compatible so that the same settings would work for lower frequencies that they share. But maybe that's expecting too much.

I haven't tried looking for an owner's manual. Some companies put all of their manuals online.

Phil

bandersen 11-13-2009 01:23 PM

Thanks for the photo. Strange - mine is actually a 550 too.

Tim 11-14-2009 05:08 PM

Here are the switch settings from the Blonder-Tongue website:

http://www.blondertongue.com/switch-...ngs_StdIRC.pdf

Phil Nelson 11-14-2009 05:10 PM

Turns out that mine is a 550A, not 550B. No idea whether that makes a difference.

I couldn't resist writing a little article about my transmitter setup.

http://antiqueradio.org/HomeTVTransmitter.htm

Written for more of a lay audience, as most of my articles are. Anyhow, in it you'll find a better scan of the DIP switch chart.

Have fun!

Phil Nelson

bandersen 11-14-2009 07:16 PM

Perfect, just what I needed :D

RDusel 12-01-2009 01:48 PM

Thanks for the excellent info gentleman, I'm going to set up a similar system at home and at my mother's house where it is difficult to run hard lines.
Rob

zenithfan1 12-01-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDusel (Post 2961111)
Thanks for the excellent info gentleman, I'm going to set up a similar system at home and at my mother's house where it is difficult to run hard lines.
Rob

It's a great way to go, mine reaches a block radius around my house. I wonder if any neighbors have caught on? :scratch2:

jr_tech 12-02-2009 02:34 PM

I would love to set up a system like this to supply video signals to sets in my "tv room" as well as portables around the house... but is it legal?

"Unlicensed broadcasts on the TV broadcast bands are prohibited, except for certain medical telemetry devices. 87.5 to 88.0 MHz is considered part of the VHF TV band (channel 6 audio is on 87.75), though it shows up on most FM tuners. For TV, 15.241 and 15.242 deal with high VHF (channels 7 to 13), 15.242 also deals with UHF."

From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_47_CFR_Part_15

I believe the 100 milliwatt rule only applies to transmitters in the AM band, with very restricted antenna length.

If I set up such a system, will I be a Pirate? :scratch2:

jr

zenithfan1 12-02-2009 03:16 PM

Ahoy mateys! Arrrrrrg! Be a pirate with the rest of us:D I don't think it will travel far enough to bother anyone. Although, it does try to interfere with some of my analog cable channels. Ghost images of my transmissions show up like the old days when two analog stations would fight back and forth on skip days with the herringbone lines ect. I remember when I could sometimes pick up two channels on one station just by moving the antenna.

jeyurkon 12-02-2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_tech (Post 2961145)
I would love to set up a system like this to supply video signals to sets in my "tv room" as well as portables around the house... but is it legal?

"Unlicensed broadcasts on the TV broadcast bands are prohibited, except for certain medical telemetry devices. 87.5 to 88.0 MHz is considered part of the VHF TV band (channel 6 audio is on 87.75), though it shows up on most FM tuners. For TV, 15.241 and 15.242 deal with high VHF (channels 7 to 13), 15.242 also deals with UHF."

From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_47_CFR_Part_15

I believe the 100 milliwatt rule only applies to transmitters in the AM band, with very restricted antenna length.

If I set up such a system, will I be a Pirate? :scratch2:

jr

Actually I think you can be legal. But the requirements are complex. They do allow intentional transmission these frequencies.

Start reading this about halfway down and continue to unlicensed Part 15 bands. It seems to be legal. http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/part15.html But I think even a lawyer would be confused.

John

jr_tech 12-02-2009 08:38 PM

"Ahoy mateys! Arrrrrrg! Be a pirate with the rest of us"

I guess so... I can't really figure out what is legal :scratch2:

I have a parrot to put on my shoulder, and one "piece o eight", but no eye patch or peg leg.

jr

Adam 01-19-2010 05:21 PM

I just got an AM 40-450, and noticed that if you set it to the highest few channels, you can get on the low end of the uhf band with these too. The highest channel I have 78 corresponds to about channel 25 on the uhf dial.

DaveWM 02-24-2010 05:07 PM

I got one a AM60-450 on the way Arr Arr...

DaveWM 03-01-2010 10:33 PM

got mine going whoo hoo, works great!

bandersen 03-01-2010 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWM (Post 2967293)
got mine going whoo hoo, works great!

Cool. I saw that it cleared up your Motorola sound woes. Mine has been working out great too.

DaveWM 03-02-2010 07:07 AM

yea that was a nice side benefit! I almost gave up until I realised I had the video feed from wrong "video out" from my dvd player.

Findm-Keepm 03-04-2010 06:19 PM

What to do with all my winnings? I won several modulators on Public Surplus:

1 - Phasecom TV Modulator 2106 - looks to be dual modulator!
1 - Blonder Tongue Channelized Agile Modulaor CAMS-60, Model# BT5895
1 - Scientific Atlanta Modulator 6350 - looks to have 4 or 5 bays fiilled, probably a filter or stereo.

Got them all for 33 bucks or less. Local pick up, so no shipping, just the taxman. Portsmouth City Schools here closed down their TV studio. Lots of production and control room stuff - Sony cameras, monitors, titlers, and stereo processors. My stuff went cheap, but they got some smakeroos for other stuff!

I also got a Panasonic CRT HDTV - 1080i, for 25 bucks. Hope it's in good condition physically.

Cheers,

W3XWT 11-28-2012 09:38 PM

Good Luck with those Phasecom modulators... My youthful experience includes building two headends with those things. Let's just say you're in for a thrill if you try running BTSC or SSAVI through them!

Findm-Keepm 12-05-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W3XWT (Post 3055324)
Good Luck with those Phasecom modulators... My youthful experience includes building two headends with those things. Let's just say you're in for a thrill if you try running BTSC or SSAVI through them!

Sadly, had to junk them both - they were upstream modulators for channels t7 and t10, not TV VHF channels 7 and 10 as I originally believed. Gave the guts for the T7 to a local ham - he's using the 7MHz oscillator for some project.

Cheers,

compucat 12-05-2012 07:30 PM

I just bought a Blonder Tongue AM-40 agile modulator so I could use analog portable and handheld TVs again. I hooked a DTV converter up to the modulator, a pair of set top aerials for a transmitting antenna and set the modulator to broadcast on channel five. Within a few minutes I had it working perfect and a very strong signal receivable all over the house. I will find a permanent hidden spot for it and let it run 24/7 so I can use my Sony Watchman and other small black and white sets like they were meant to be. These things are the greatest. I wish I had the room for a half dozen each with a DTV box covering a different channel all mounted in a rack or cabinet. Mine did not come with any instructions for the dip switches but I was able to figure it out.


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