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miniman82 03-07-2011 10:59 PM

Philco rescued in Minnesota
 
Thanks to Greg for going to save this for me, it was headed to the trash heap! :yikes:

Still a nice stereo out there for someone: http://stcloud.craigslist.org/zip/2232081199.html

:thmbsp:

Don't know a whole lot about it just yet, other than it works and probably has some vertical deflection issue. Check out the pics, I trust the forum sages will have more info on it. Anyone got a Sams on this thing?

miniman82 03-07-2011 11:00 PM

2 more pics.

DaveWM 03-08-2011 07:41 AM

yep that same as mine, SS tuner and IF, the rest is tube.

ggregg 03-08-2011 09:05 PM

Good thing I picked it up yesterday. When I drove up it was sitting outside. Anybody that has an extra leg, let Nick know. He's missing one. :D

CoogarXR 03-08-2011 10:02 PM

Wow, that's pretty clean inside!

bgadow 03-08-2011 10:20 PM

These are probably the most modern roundie ever built. I'm really happy to see this one saved. Regarding the leg, post a good photo and some dimensions. I have some, and others probably do as well.

John Marinello 03-09-2011 08:59 AM

Looks like someone stuck the chassis in backwards :D
Nice save!

ggregg 03-09-2011 09:29 AM

1 Attachment(s)
The legs are 16" long from the top of the wood to the bottom of the feet and 1.75" diameter. They are painted grey.

miniman82 03-09-2011 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Marinello (Post 2997104)
Looks like someone stuck the chassis in backwards


Sure does, huh? Every other set I own has the HV cage on the right as you look at it, this thing must have a pretty long anode lead.

Electronic M 03-09-2011 10:06 AM

I believe that is a 1968 model. Acordng to the september 1967 popular science issue I have Philco brought back the round tube that year to have the cheapest set(screen size per dollar) on the market. Here is a photo from the magazine.
http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...y/DSCN0543.jpg
I would imagine this was the last production roundy and likely quite collectable.

Tom C.

ggregg 03-09-2011 10:34 AM

1 Attachment(s)
That looks to be it.

JB5pro 03-09-2011 11:19 AM

What a great find!. I love those leader models. Are those legs certainly the originals? They look too long to be strong enough for proper stability if someone fell against the set.

Don Lindsly 03-09-2011 12:29 PM

Chassis # 17MT80 makes it a '67 model.

Steve D. 03-09-2011 04:39 PM

I recall Wards had an Airline 21" color roundie on display at the front entrance to their store. It had a black hardboard cabinet and gray plastic trim & knobs. $299.00. Absolutely a price leader set. This must have been in the very late 60's

-Steve D.

ggregg 03-09-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB5pro (Post 2997115)
What a great find!. I love those leader models. Are those legs certainly the originals? They look too long to be strong enough for proper stability if someone fell against the set.

Not sure. They do look to be unfinished underneath the lousy grey paint job.

dieseljeep 03-10-2011 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB5pro (Post 2997115)
What a great find!. I love those leader models. Are those legs certainly the originals? They look too long to be strong enough for proper stability if someone fell against the set.

My uncle bought one of those el-cheapo's. The Goodyear tire store was selling them at the time. He always favored Philco products, even though I told him to stay away. Bought it in fall of 1967.

wkand 03-11-2011 12:51 PM

Philco Roundie Save
 
Nice save!!

Does anybody know if that CRT is new or rebuilt? The label on it seems to indicate rebuilt - See the quote on it for Color CRT "New Gun assembly, used envelope".

Apparently the owner believed the "Use Only genuine Philco - Ford tubes and parts" or the set was under warranty when the CRT was replaced, if it indeed was replaced.

Walt Anderson

miniman82 03-11-2011 02:16 PM

Seems to be a rebuild, I have a tube with that same sticker on it but a different manufacture is on it. Not Channel Master, but something similar.

dieseljeep 03-11-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wkand (Post 2997363)
Nice save!!

Does anybody know if that CRT is new or rebuilt? The label on it seems to indicate rebuilt - See the quote on it for Color CRT "New Gun assembly, used envelope".

Apparently the owner believed the "Use Only genuine Philco - Ford tubes and parts" or the set was under warranty when the CRT was replaced, if it indeed was replaced.

Walt Anderson

That CRT was probably replaced under warranty. It has a 68 code date. I was surprised to see that Philco made their own CRT's.

ctc17 03-11-2011 10:44 PM

I have that sams if you need it.

bgadow 03-11-2011 10:59 PM

I think Philco had just started color tube production about the time these sets came out. I have speculated that maybe they got all geared up to produce round tubes just in time for that market to fade, so they figured "what the heck?" and came out with those price leaders.

These were not the last roundies made...I think that honor goes to a series-string Magnavox that seems to have been in production into 1970.

There were a few companies that built "reverse" chassis, at least for some models. Admiral and Motorola come to mind.

ctc17 03-12-2011 12:04 AM

We brought back some older all tube philco roundies from SC, I forget the chassis number but they are 64 65s

sampson159 03-12-2011 07:41 AM

our first color set was a philco roundie.my dad bought it because the ford name was on it.the philco crt has a look all its own.very,very good picture.pretty good set overall.

miniman82 03-12-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctc17 (Post 2997427)
I have that sams if you need it.



I do need it, can you email it or would it be snail mail?

ctc17 03-12-2011 11:40 AM

Its a pdf send your email

miniman82 03-12-2011 11:51 AM

Done.

dieseljeep 03-12-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 2997463)
Done.

Nick. Does that set have a gray painted cabinet? I had a set like that 30+ years ago. It was free for the hauling. The crt was weak on two guns and the flyback was bad. The painters in that house spilled paint all over it. Needless to say, I scrapped it. I noticed the tube had EIA260 on the label. Like I said before, I was surprised to see Philco still made their own CRT's.

ggregg 03-12-2011 03:21 PM

Cabinet is painted grey. It's in my garage. Nick and I haven't quite figured out yet the easiest way to get it from St. Cloud, MN to Chicago.

dieseljeep 03-12-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggregg (Post 2997469)
Cabinet is painted grey. It's in my garage. Nick and I haven't quite figured out yet the easiest way to get it from St. Cloud, MN to Chicago.

That was the $299. special. The next model up was a walnut grained set for $329. Legs were extra.

miniman82 03-12-2011 09:02 PM

Got the Sams, thanks Dan!

Gack! Looks like I'll be needing a bunch of 6U8's to replace the slew of GH8's in there, those things are the devil, so I hear.

zenithfan1 03-12-2011 09:17 PM

Post it up on U-Ship with a picture, I got my CTC-4 home safely that way really cheap. It's worth a shot.

dieseljeep 03-13-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 2997483)
Got the Sams, thanks Dan!

Gack! Looks like I'll be needing a bunch of 6U8's to replace the slew of GH8's in there, those things are the devil, so I hear.

That model used a lot of 6BL8's as well.

ggregg 03-23-2011 09:45 PM

Nick,
Your TV was picked up tonight. Show us pictures when you have her going.
Greg

comet64 03-24-2011 11:28 AM

Philco rescued in Minnesota
 
Does anyone remember when Philco started to include the "Tuning Eye" on their color sets. We had one on ours (not a roundie) I always thought it was very cool.

miniman82 03-24-2011 06:05 PM

Yep, he says he'll be here later tonight but I won't be there when he stops by due to work. :sigh:

The wife will have to handle it for now, then I'll post some pics in the AM. Pretty good deal on this one, I gotta say. Can't beat free 99, all thanks to Greg! And thanks a bunch for the heads up on U-Ship, Mark. The guy offered to truck it here for only $100! :thmbsp:

Kevin Kuehn 03-24-2011 10:39 PM

That is a pretty good deal considering gas prices. Maybe that U-Ship would also work for getting your roundie CRT delivered from MI?

Kevin

miniman82 03-24-2011 10:50 PM

Dammit, see this is why I love you guys! :tresbon:


I'll get right on it, that thing completely slipped my mind! :smoke:

miniman82 03-25-2011 01:21 AM

And now for the money shot...

This is why I like newer sets a lot: a fly so clean, I could eat off it. :banana:

miniman82 03-25-2011 01:36 AM

As advertised, the set works when I plug it in. Bad news is there's a strange red flicker in the picture, vertical height is not what it should be, and something smells bad after being on a minute or so...

Yanked the chassis and started looking for what I assumed would be a cap with one lead in the grave, but everything looks brand new in this chassis. Cap search was inconclusive, so I used my nose to see if I could track down the source of the foul odor. It seemed to be coming from the PCB with all the demod and driver stuff on it, but at first I didn't see anything. That got my analytical aviation eyes in high gear and I stared and stared- then I saw it: carbon tracking from pin 6 to 7 of the X demod/R-Y tube! It's a 6BL8, pin 6 is the plate and 7 is the cathode/supressor of the demod section. Looks like I'll have to dig the burnt crud out, and see if I can push some epoxy in the space left over to try and clean it up. If you guys have a better idea on how to fix that, I'm all ears.

Hopefully after fixing the demod trace, this thing should produce a color picture!

miniman82 03-25-2011 12:12 PM

Dug out the carbon with a razor, touched up vert height and centering, and she's a runner! :thmbsp:

Think I'll put this in as my daily runner, it's got a nice stong tube with plenty of life left.


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