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jr_tech 05-17-2011 04:45 PM

Small and Cute Radios
 
In a recent thread about a tiny metal 4 tube Silvertone 6002 it was mentioned that the radio was purchased because it was small and cute. It would seem that a number of radios might fit that description. If you have a nomination for a "small & cute" radio please post it up here.
I will start off with what I think might be the smallest 5 tube set, the tiny tombstone Emerson 706 (about 5" x 6" x 5" deep) in white Bakelite:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/...6f8cbb2bc0.jpg
Emerson 706, 5 Tube "Mini" by jr_tech, on Flickr

Wrong "volume" knob, but IMHO, quite cute... any challengers? :scratch2:
jr

dieseljeep 05-17-2011 05:19 PM

Didn't Admiral build a real small 5 tube set around 1953. Never saw one.

PaulOF 05-17-2011 05:50 PM

I long for an RCA 54B3.
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/rca_rc589_54b3.html

radiotvnut 05-17-2011 05:59 PM

Don't forget these little 5 tube Japanese sets from the '60's. These were sold in many case colors and designs and under a million different brands. They were made towards the end of the tube radio era and usually sold for under $10.

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/f...5newtv0005.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/f...5newtv0006.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/f...liette0001.jpg

jr_tech 05-17-2011 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiotvnut (Post 3003446)
Don't forget these little 5 tube Japanese sets from the '60's. These were sold in many case colors and designs and under a million different brands. They were made towards the end of the tube radio era and usually sold for under $10.

Nice! We might have a new leader in the 5 mini tube category! do you have the approx dimensions of these sets?
jr

Jeffhs 05-17-2011 07:58 PM

Those small tube-type Emersons, et al. may have been cute, but I don't think they lasted very long, as crowded as the chassis is. Five tubes in such a cramped space gave off a lot of heat, which could well have buckled or melted the cabinet -- to say nothing of cooking the underchassis components, many if not most of which in these small radios were underrated anyway. In a house with teenagers hooked on the local radio station, I bet these radios didn't last much longer than a year or so, if that long.

Don't forget that the crowded chassis made these sets very difficult to work on, if underchassis repairs were required. I wouldn't be surprised if these small sets were sold at dirt-cheap prices when they were new, which means few if any of them ever saw time on a repair shop service bench; if anything more serious than a bad tube went wrong with one of these sets, the chances are good the repair shop's technician told the owner the set wasn't worth fixing, and he would have been right. These little sets, as others have noted, were built cheaply to sell cheaply -- meaning, of course, that they were not worth even the charge most repair shops used to make (in the vacuum tube days) just to take the back off or to test the tubes.

dieseljeep 05-17-2011 08:14 PM

A lot of those small American made radios survived. It was those Japanese ones that didn't. How many of those small Arvins and clones survived? Lots of them!

radiotvnut 05-17-2011 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3003468)
A lot of those small American made radios survived. It was those Japanese ones that didn't. How many of those small Arvins and clones survived? Lots of them!

That's right. As I look over ebay, the flea market, ARF classifieds, etc; I find a lot more Arvins, and other small American made sets, than I find the later Japanese cheapies from the '60's. And, those older 4 and 5 tube metal cased Arvins were still better performers than those Japanese '60's sets.

Back in the late '60's, a radio/TV repairman, who I knew and is now no longer with us, bought a truckload of those Japanese 5 tube radios from a local discount store. Solid state sets had already taken over and the store owner made my friend a real good deal (something like $2/radio) on the whole lot. My friend said the only reason he bought them was to rob the tubes because the cost of tubes from the parts house was greater than what he paid for the radios. He added that he never plugged in the first radio. He yanked the tubes and tossed the rest of the radio in the trash.

Hemingray 05-17-2011 09:16 PM

IIRC, (And this is from Phil Nelson's page), Doesn't that little emerson use a 50B5 rather than a 50C5 for the output?

jr_tech 05-17-2011 09:27 PM

The layout sticker on the bottom of my white one says "50C5"... Phil says that the Emerson 706 could have either... he did a nice write up ! :
http://antiqueradio.org/emer706.htm
jr
Update: I just checked my brown 706 (no chart) and the output tube that it has is also a 50C5... guess that I got lucky! :yes:

jr_tech 05-22-2011 03:58 PM

Another "small and cute" radio, also an Emerson (model 747) is shown below. It is a battery-only portable about 6" x 3.75" x 1.5". It uses flat sub-mini tubes, similar in size to those used in tube hearing aids. ca.1953.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2584/...97750ab2f6.jpg
Emerson 747, Sub-Min Tubes on Flickr

Tube lineup was 1V6 converter, 1AH4 if amp, 1AJ5 detector & 1st audio, and 1AJ4 audio output (about 45 mili watts). In a later version, the audio output tube was replaced by 2 transistors, in push-pull.
jr

Robb 02-22-2013 07:05 PM

Hi guys,
Anyone have any small radios for sale ?

thanks

wa2ise 02-22-2013 08:40 PM

Those Emersons breed like rabbits here:
http://www.wa2ise.com/radios/em713.jpghttp://www.wa2ise.com/radios/emer706b.jpghttp://www.wa2ise.com/radios/emeclk1.jpghttp://www.wa2ise.com/radios/e7o8b.jpghttp://www.wa2ise.com/radios/em708green.jpghttp://www.wa2ise.com/radios/em708b-red.jpghttp://www.wa2ise.com/radios/e708a.jpghttp://www.wa2ise.com/radios/emer708bi.jpghttp://www.wa2ise.com/radios/emer708-3d.jpg

Sandy G 02-22-2013 10:18 PM

I have a 2-tube Arvin metal-cased set from '38, & its bigger 3-tubed brother from about the same time. No, they WON'T make me wanna kick my EK-07 or R-390As to the kerb,but they DO pick up the local Angel Modulation station pretty good..

Robb 06-24-2013 11:36 PM

Just got this Marconi radio at a radio swap meet a few weeks back.
Looks like an Emerson.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...C/DSCF0261.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...C/DSCF0257.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...C/DSCF0259.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...C/DSCF0260.jpg


similair

http://www.wa2ise.com/radios/emer925b.jpg
http://img2.etsystatic.com/000/0/661....330839106.jpg

Jon A. 06-25-2013 05:12 AM

I just stumbled on the following listing. Maybe I have been flying blind, but I had never heard tell of such a thing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage...item4174693251

jr_tech 06-25-2013 12:49 PM

Another "small but cute" radio that turns up once in a while is this small AC-DC (but not battery powered) tabletop Zenith K-412 series. It is very small and almost totally enclosed... the trick; it uses low voltage portable radio tubes rather than the typical AC-DC "All American 5". Very cute, hard to find in good condition at a reasonable price.

http://www.radiophile.com/k412.htm

jr

Jeffhs 06-25-2013 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_tech (Post 3073323)
Another "small but cute" radio that turns up once in a while is this small AC-only tabletop Zenith K-412 series. It is very small and almost totally enclosed... the trick; it uses low voltage portable radio tubes rather than the typical AC-DC "All American 5". Very cute, hard to find in good condition at a reasonable price.

http://www.radiophile.com/k412.htm

jr

It is next to impossible for me to believe this radio worked at all if the tubes had no cathodes, as the description of the set at radiophile.com states -- unless these were special tubes designed exclusively for battery-operated radios.

Reece 06-25-2013 02:07 PM

The set used 1-volt and 3-volt filament tubes like those used in tube-type portables. These tubes do not have separate indirectly-heated cathodes surrounding the filaments. That's why the note says the tubes have no cathodes: he means no separate cathodes. The filaments themselves serve as the cathodes.

init4fun 07-27-2013 03:35 PM

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:thmbsp: Nice collection of Emersons there , wa2ise !

I would like to expand this photo collection by one that I did not see in your pics. This is my 707 B model , which I have seen referred to as "sunburst" or "sunrise" in some ads I saw on the 'Bay . I don't know if that's really Emerson's name for it , or just old radio collector slang like how Zenith never made a model that they sold as a "Walton" , that set famously being given the name long after being out of production . This one is recapped , has all 5 original Emerson branded tubes , and no cracks in the plastic . I bought it specifically for it's tiny stature , figuring it would make a good shelfmate for some of my bigger stuff . It kinda looks like your 713 but without the woodgrain outer case and different knobs , at a close glance :)


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