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miniman82 08-16-2011 04:07 PM

RCA 630TS in Skokie
 
no affil

Looks to be missing the bezel.

http://www.estatesales.net/estate-sales/204762.aspx

http://pictures.estatesales.net/6062/204762/3232602.jpg
http://pictures.estatesales.net/6062/204762/3199259.jpg

bandersen 08-16-2011 04:50 PM

Some nifty test equipment there too.

What the heck is this thing ?

http://pictures.estatesales.net/6062/204762/3232609.jpg

MelodyMaster 08-16-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 3011587)
Some nifty test equipment there too.

What the heck is this thing ?

http://pictures.estatesales.net/6062/204762/3232609.jpg

The resolution is too low to read the printing on the machine, but it looks like an audio sweep generator with level plotting output.

It's some sort of in/out plotter, regardless.

david c long 08-16-2011 06:14 PM

General radio strip chart recorder
 
The setup is an early audio sweep generator (on top)
and a tracking (using chain) strip level plotter.

Used to plot audio response of amps,filters, loudspeakers, etc.
Cool equipment... I had one a long time ago.

Gives a calibrated plot of frequency response (in db) vs audio frequency.

Dave

bandersen 09-16-2011 02:28 PM

After several delays, the estate sale finally happened. It will run all day today and tomorrow.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6072/...439bef64_z.jpg


The 630TS was marked at $90 and missing the mask and back. I hunted around in the basement for them, but came up empty. Also, the channel knob is missing a chunk, but otherwise it's in good condition.

I passed on it as I already have one, but I hope someone else can save it.


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6076/...c1fc15b3_z.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6155/...43ec4b6f_z.jpg

I poked around in the basement and also found a couple Zenith sets. The console had the back off and and clearly it was being worked on. The CRT plug was pulled off, some tubes were missing and the HV cage was opened up.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6186/...b6b8212f_z.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6158/...41a00f26_z.jpg

There were several tube testers shown in the listing, but all were gone very quickly. Must have been one of the first buyers let in. None of them looked like vintage electronic folks - more like professional estate sale buyers. They'll probably show up on ebay at inflated prices.

Here's what I came home with. An Admiral 20X11 in really good condition, a porthole chassis and some unknown chassis. Also a piece of test equipment just for the nixie tubes :)

I found the Admiral hiding in the garage. It appears to be in very good condition. All the knobs are there and it has the original masonite back. I used to think these had metal backs like the console version does.

Anyone recognize the chassis in the last picture ?
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6197/...d15d7717_z.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6191/...01f4c83a_z.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6084/...08ab6af3_z.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/...81d9f6da_z.jpg

Kevin Kuehn 09-16-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Here's what I came home with. An Admiral 20X11 in really good condition
I thought you allready have one of these too? :scratch2:

None the less, nice score! :yes:

Kevin Kuehn 09-16-2011 02:43 PM

Dang, that audio plotting machine must have been a big ka-chunk of change back in the day.

Electronic M 09-16-2011 02:46 PM

I guess I need to convince my folks to take me to another out of state estate sale.
I want that color Zenith on the cart!

Tom C.

bandersen 09-16-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3014131)
I thought you allready have one of these too? :scratch2:

None the less, nice score! :yes:

Very close, I already have the brown 20X12. This is black I think and no cracks. I'll know more tonight when I bring it inside for a closer look.

Also, my 20X12 had a chunk broken out of one side when I received it :( I've glued back on, but it's pretty noticeable.
I figure some filler and artist paints will help.

http://www.bobandersen.com/images/ad...2/broken01.jpg http://www.bobandersen.com/images/ad...2/broken02.jpg

Kevin Kuehn 09-16-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 3014134)
Very close, I already have the brown 20X12. This is black I think. I'll know more tonight when I bring it inside for a closer look.

Also, my 20X12 had a chunk broken out of one side when I received it :( I've glued back on, but it's pretty noticeable.
I figure some filler and artist paints will help.

Oh, ok. I get them all confused. Then I guess you were not Admiral hoarding. :D

Kevin Kuehn 09-16-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3014133)
I guess I need to convince my folks to take me to another out of state estate sale.
I want that color Zenith on the cart!

Tom C.

I need to convince the wife that we're all moving to Chicago land. Besides TV's, I also love the old brick houses in that area.

bandersen 09-16-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3014133)
I guess I need to convince my folks to take me to another out of state estate sale.
I want that color Zenith on the cart!

Tom C.

They didn't have price tags on them because they didn't think anyone would want them! I bet you could have both Zeniths for $20 :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3014136)
Oh, ok. I get them all confused. Then I guess you were not Admiral hoarding. :D

Oh I probably am, but keep in mind they're fairly common around here and the price was too good to pass on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3014138)
I need to convince the wife that we're all moving to Chicago land. Besides TV's, I also love the old brick houses in that area.

Yeah, pretty much the whole city is brick. I think it was required by code for years after the big fire.

If I had the money, I'd love to buy this little factory right next to my local Home Depot. I figure it would make an awesome store/workshop/museum.

It's currently broken up into four units all available to lease. I'll get in there one of these days and take more pictures.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3535/...718b8c42_b.jpg

bandersen 09-16-2011 04:29 PM

Hmm. I just took a closer look at the porthole chassis and it's definitely bigger than 12"

In fact, I might just have unwittingly stumbled onto a good 16EP4 for my Monroe porthole set :banana:

leadlike 09-16-2011 07:06 PM

I recognize the porthole chassis, as it is the same one mine uses. Although your crt looks bigger-on mine, the 16EP4 doesn't use nearly as much mounting hardware.

If you are not going to use the chassis, I sure could use the adjustable width coil. Mine was reduced to ashes.

bandersen 09-16-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leadlike (Post 3014160)
I recognize the porthole chassis, as it is the same one mine uses. Although your crt looks bigger-on mine, the 16EP4 doesn't use nearly as much mounting hardware.

If you are not going to use the chassis, I sure could use the adjustable width coil. Mine was reduced to ashes.

The Zenith chassis is a G2437RZ. If I don't need that width coil for my porthole, it's all yours.

Here it is next to a 16GP4 CRT. Looks like it would be a challenge to make a 16GP4 work in one of these sets.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6201/...8c7cc0be_z.jpg

It looks to be in better condition than the chassis currently in my set.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/...504e400f_z.jpg

The other chassis I picked up is an RCA KCS47A. I should have recognized it sooner since I already have another one out in the garage. I'll be parting both out or maybe someone needs a whole chassis ?

The CRT showed zero emissions at first, but after 30 minutes at 7VAC is creeping towards the green :)

http://www.bobandersen.com/images/porthole/16ep4_01.jpg http://www.bobandersen.com/images/porthole/16ep4_03.jpg


The Admiral is in very good all original condition. Almost all the tubes including the CRT are Admiral branded.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6072/...ae124f41_z.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6207/...b6f936d9_z.jpg


All the knobs are black bakelite. This is the first time I've come across black knobs - all the others have been brown.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6207/...98bc55cf_z.jpg


Finally, the nixie tube thingy actually lights up. Just what I need to make a clock :)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6206/...b8e58a79_z.jpg

Kevin Kuehn 09-16-2011 09:53 PM

Pretty nice Admiral there. :thmbsp:

Electronic M 09-16-2011 10:23 PM

I pulled out all the stops in trying to get my folks to take me, and failed.

If this is the only week that the sale will held, and someone could get the color table model Zenith and cart for me it would make me happy (probably won't happen though).

I at least hope it don't end up in the trash.

Tom C.

Bill Cahill 09-16-2011 11:43 PM

That last unknown chassis is an RCA KCS 47, one of the cheapie chassis using a 6J5 vertical oscilator. Did you buy that broken Admiral? I have a good cabinet I could get rid of. I need that RCA.
Bill Cahill

bandersen 09-17-2011 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Cahill (Post 3014190)
That last unknown chassis is an RCA KCS 47, one of the cheapie chassis using a 6J5 vertical oscilator. Did you buy that broken Admiral? I have a good cabinet I could get rid of. I need that RCA.
Bill Cahill

I actually bought the broken Admiral several years ago. It was damaged in shipping from Florida. The one I bought today is in good condition. Yes, you are correct that is a KCS47A chassis. I believe I have another as well that's in even better condition.

Is your Admiral cabinet a table top or console ? Either way, they are tricky to ship.

Bill Cahill 09-17-2011 12:17 AM

Table top. I'm trying to complete my console Admiral. Could you help me on any parts lke back cover, bottom of chassis panel, Spkr?
20X122
Bill Cahill

Bill Cahill 09-17-2011 12:20 AM

I'd like to get a good KCS 47 that is the more deluxe one with 6SN7 vert. oscilator, and, sync sep.
Also need new flyback, and, yoke for same.
Bill Cahill

leadlike 09-17-2011 12:33 PM

Just curious-does your Porthole chassis have the provisions for the Lazy Bones remote, as well as Phone Vision?

bandersen 09-17-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leadlike (Post 3014221)
Just curious-does your Porthole chassis have the provisions for the Lazy Bones remote, as well as Phone Vision?

I'm not sure - what would I look for on the chassis ?

Bill Cahill 09-17-2011 06:23 PM

A socket on back that says remote. I think this set is too early for that.
I wouldn't be too quick to strip that chassis.
Bill Cahill

leadlike 09-17-2011 06:48 PM

If you see a shaft sticking out of the back of the tuner drum, then you can hook up the remote. The Phonevision socket would be somewhere around the horizontal section, with a jumpered insert in it.

bandersen 09-17-2011 08:42 PM

Hmm, I don't think it has either of those. Here are some pictures.
That flyback looks nasty.

As for parting it out goes, I'll just take whatever I need to get my set working. I may even use this chassis instead of the other if it's compatible and in better condition.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6204/...06e1a347_z.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/...8b2f7bfc_z.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6081/...98b20029_z.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6202/...2a042ed8_z.jpg

bandersen 09-17-2011 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Cahill (Post 3014196)
Table top. I'm trying to complete my console Admiral. Could you help me on any parts lke back cover, bottom of chassis panel, Spkr?
20X122
Bill Cahill

Sorry, I don't think I have any of those. None of my sets have the chassis panel either. I suppose some perforated sheet metal would make a good substitute :scratch2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Cahill (Post 3014197)
I'd like to get a good KCS 47 that is the more deluxe one with 6SN7 vert. oscilator, and, sync sep.
Also need new flyback, and, yoke for same.
Bill Cahill

I'll go out to the garage tomorrow and take a closer look at the two chassis I have and let you know.

Electronic M 09-17-2011 11:44 PM

If you can spare the chassis half of the interlock on one of your sets I could use one.

bandersen 09-18-2011 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3014281)
If you can spare the chassis half of the interlock on one of your sets I could use one.

For AC power ? I bet some other forum members have a NOS one they could spare. I needed one a while back for my GE 810 and Eric H was kind enough to send me one :)

bandersen 09-28-2011 04:52 PM

Here are some pictures of the KCS47A chassis: http://www.bobandersen.com/images/RC...47A%20chassis/

Also, I was able to get the Admiral 20X11 up and running :) I'll start a dedicated thread shortly.

Here's the insides of the nixie counter. It's all transistors - germanium I believe.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6014/...8ef1e5cb_z.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6147/...01487c6e_z.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6129/...b8edda4c_z.jpg

Spinning Head 09-28-2011 07:45 PM

Very cool. Does it work? Does it have a time base to measure frequency?

miniman82 09-28-2011 07:46 PM

That looks exactly like the counter I remember seeing in a generator test bench I used to operate when I was stationed in Sicily, great find!

bandersen 09-28-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt E (Post 3015002)
Very cool. Does it work? Does it have a time base to measure frequency?

It sorta works. Occasionally some crazy numbers will popup then it goes back to the correct reading. It literally just counts up every time a pulse is applied to the input. There's a reset button that sets to back to all zeros.

I used to have a massive HP rack mount 8 digit nixie frequency and period counter that used all tubes. I think it could handle up to 100 kHz :)

Electronic M 09-28-2011 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 3014283)
For AC power ? I bet some other forum members have a NOS one they could spare. I needed one a while back for my GE 810 and Eric H was kind enough to send me one :)

Yes the AC power interlock on my set has a busted prong.


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