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miniman82 02-12-2012 04:19 PM

CTC-5 Wingate Resto Thread
 
This is the set I picked up today in Skokie. It's in pretty good shape, but the chassis needs a lot of attention. More than half the tubes are Westinghouse brand, so it' sseen it's fair shape of use. CRT tests good, it's the original 21AXP22A dated 22nd week of 1956.


http://videokarma.org/attachment.php...1&d=1329084998

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Kevin Kuehn 02-12-2012 04:30 PM

Very nice. Any chance the previous owner still had the missing cabinet hardware? At any rate it shouldn't be to difficult to find some matching door pulls for that vintage.

mstaton 02-12-2012 04:36 PM

is it a "super" or "deluxe"?

Komet 02-12-2012 04:51 PM

Nice set!! Aaah, I'm envious, I want to live in the US :(

Steve D. 02-12-2012 05:10 PM

To answer the above post. This set has the Deluxe chassis and was the most expensive CTC-5 model RCA offered.

Nick,

Very nice score. Figured you would have to rent a truck or van to transport. Having a good 21AX is a real plus. I see the door pulls in the original Wingate photo posted on the VK classified post. I guess you removed them? Just a tip. Be sure the pencil box door is closed before you close the cabinet doors. I'll look forward to your restoration progress.

-Steve D.

Sandy G 02-12-2012 06:22 PM

Ah HATE Yew !! -Yosemite Sam, Esq. (grin) Oh, man, sittin' here DROOLIN'....Very Purdy !!

zenith2134 02-12-2012 06:38 PM

Double thumbs up.

miniman82 02-13-2012 01:15 AM

Yes, I had to remove the door pulls when I moved it. They are sitting right here, in a plastic bag along with the HV cage cover.

kvflyer 02-13-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3026983)
Yes, I had to remove the door pulls when I moved it. They are sitting right here, in a plastic bag along with the HV cage cover.

Certainly beats getting the pulls broken and damaging "things along the way" such as car interiors, walls, and legs (human that is ;)) Not much more disappointing than having an item that is almost complete and missing those items that are often gone or broken; knobs, pulls, HV cages and backs...

zenir 02-13-2012 12:00 PM

ctc5
 
does ne1 have the contrast mod as pdf for ctc5?

miniman82 02-13-2012 08:43 PM

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Obligatory chassis shot: CTC-5AA

http://videokarma.org/attachment.php...4&d=1329187226

This one is odd; there are some caps with leads clipped for no reason, jumpers placed around peaking coils, and other strange 'mods' I can't explain. First order of business is of course a recap, so off I go to the interwebs to search for the multitudes of caps I will need. After that all the tubes need testing, and there is much cleaning to do inside the cabinet.

zenith2134 02-13-2012 08:58 PM

looks like I have a bunch of era-correct tv tubes that would fit this. RCA, Olympic, Sylvania, etc. let me know if you are having trouble finding any.

bgadow 02-13-2012 10:16 PM

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ontrastMod.jpg

I might have it somewhere saved on the computer; I don't think I ever saved it as a pdf.

Phil Nelson 02-13-2012 11:34 PM

Good for hours of fun :)

I'm usually not wild about that "early American" style of furniture -- grew up in a house with way too much of it -- but I would make an exception for that TV.

Phil Nelson

ChrisW6ATV 02-13-2012 11:39 PM

Thank you for posting that, Bryan.

NewVista 02-13-2012 11:49 PM

Yes thanks for that video Modification, was having trouble with this on mine , original circuit strange.

miniman82 02-14-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zenith2134 (Post 3027046)
looks like I have a bunch of era-correct tv tubes that would fit this.

I'd like to get all RCA stuff of course, if I need anything I'll get in touch with you. :thmbsp:

holmesuser01 02-14-2012 01:37 PM

Thats one nice looking cabinet. I bet it will be a performer.

I like that chassis layout. I've never looked at a 5, that I remember. I think the oldest one I worked on was a CTC-7.

miniman82 02-14-2012 04:23 PM

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Thats one nice looking cabinet. I bet it will be a performer.

The woodwork is top notch, it's no wonder this was RCA's most expensive offering that year. :yes:

Just got back from the hardware store, $2.50 bought me little self adhesive felts to put under the top glass. Not sure if it came with glass from the factory or the owner had it made, my guess is he had it made to protect the set. I got this from the original owner BTW, still sitting in the same room it was installed in back in 1956. Cable was even still attached to it, suppose I should load up the cell phone pics of the place...


Here's the house.

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Set was down in the basement, doors had to be removed to get it out.

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Still connected to the cable coming out of the wall...

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Inside the HV cage. I put the variac on it, to make sure it produces HV. Everything seems in order, just very dusty.

http://videokarma.org/attachment.php...4&d=1329257938

miniman82 02-14-2012 04:30 PM

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'Couple more shots.

With the back removed. I just realized it's missing the bottom high frequency driver, shouldn't be too hard to locate. I think they are the same as the ones used in later cabinets.

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CRT neck, it's the original.

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All loaded up in the U-Haul truck, heading back to Waukegan.

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holmesuser01 02-14-2012 04:32 PM

No tweeter? JUNK IT. Send it to me!!

miniman82 02-14-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by holmesuser01 (Post 3027125)
No tweeter? JUNK IT. Send it to me!!

What's your address? :D

holmesuser01 02-14-2012 04:54 PM

Sorry, lost my head for a moment...

If I brought a set of that size in my house, I'd have to put it in the kitchen!

stromberg6 02-14-2012 05:00 PM

Great score Nick! All the best with that DeLuxe 5!! :thmbsp:
Kevin

NewVista 02-14-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3027124)
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With the back removed. I just realized it's missing the bottom high frequency driver, shouldn't be too hard to locate. I think they are the same as the ones used in later cabinets.

Also the same as used in many mid to late 50s RCA Stereos. I have some somewhere !

miniman82 02-14-2012 06:17 PM

Let me know if you find one Colin, we'll meet up at some point I'm sure.

NewVista 02-14-2012 06:56 PM

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Found ! will drop it off at Bob's .

miniman82 02-14-2012 07:47 PM

Excellent, thanks Colin!

Electronic M 02-14-2012 07:48 PM

Cool set with a cool background. That story reminds me of the place I got my 67 Airline from. Pretty much same story only second floor of the house/Podiatrists office it was installed in and the set still working good enough for reception (if the cursed DTV switch had not ocured before then).

ChrisW6ATV 02-15-2012 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3027122)
I got this from the original owner BTW, still sitting in the same room it was installed in back in 1956...

Here's the house.

I love seeing this kind of perspective. We are discussing an "antique", very early example of color-TV technology, and its original location. I look at the picture of that house, and to me it is a NEW house. I mean, it is a ranch-style house, and those are post-war... Well, maybe any post-World-War-2 home only always seems "new" to me because in my 51+ years of life I have lived in homes built since the 1920s only about five years total, and in a post-1950 home for less than two years out of those 51.

miniman82 02-15-2012 11:23 PM

I'm young compared to the forum sages, they hold the wisdom I don't have but I make up for that with motivation. :yes:


Recapping has begun! Ended up making a Mouser order to the tune of around $70, and that's just the poly caps. I ran out of common ones I already had on hand, so things are at a stand still till UPS stops by. Still need 'lytics as well, but I want to exhaust my existing stock before making another order. Meantime, there's still plenty of chassis cleaning left to do...

For now all I've done is pull the HV cage, so I could get the HV cup out and scrub the bejeezus out of it. They are always disgusting, and this one was no exception. Finished checking the rest of the tubes, turns out the vertical failure was due to a 6AQ5 with only enough emission to budge the needle off it's stop. :D The rest of the tubes test good, but I'll still try to get as many RCA ones as possible into it.

Sandy G 02-15-2012 11:40 PM

I'm droolin'.....An' GREEN w/envy....

bgadow 02-16-2012 09:52 PM

Sandy, you sure that ain't from the leftover porkroast you had for lunch? :)

Great set...the CTC-5 club is getting pretty big!

hi_volt 02-17-2012 06:37 AM

Quote:

Sandy, you sure that ain't from the leftover porkroast you had for lunch?

Great set...the CTC-5 club is getting pretty big!
It's interesting how many of these seem to have come out of nowhere. I got mine from a response to a CL ad I placed wanting to buy old round screen color TVs. I've now scored 4 roundies off of that ad, including my CTC5 Chandler.

holmesuser01 02-17-2012 08:11 AM

I think it's because people that are old enough to have bought these sets when new are dying off now.

I did furnace service work for years. I saw alot of basements. There were lots of roundies in the basements.

kvflyer 02-17-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by holmesuser01 (Post 3027383)
I think it's because people that are old enough to have bought these sets when new are dying off now. ...

Sad but true. Same thing applies to vintage cars like the Model A Ford. Most of the younger generation isn't interested. The muscle cars are our era and they are way over priced.

Anyway, this set should look nice when working.

miniman82 02-18-2012 03:00 PM

That's why I bought a Corvair instead of a Camaro, stealthy cheap performance. lol

Sandy G 02-18-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kvflyer (Post 3027394)
Sad but true. Same thing applies to vintage cars like the Model A Ford. Most of the younger generation isn't interested. The muscle cars are our era and they are way over priced.

Anyway, this set should look nice when working.

Maybe now I'll finally be able to afford that 1940 Ford Fordor Deluxe I've always wanted..

Sandy G 02-19-2012 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bgadow (Post 3027356)
Sandy, you sure that ain't from the leftover porkroast you had for lunch? :)

Great set...the CTC-5 club is getting pretty big!

Coulda been, Bryan. Pork does FUNNY things to me-3 times I can eat it & no problems...But about 1 out of ever 4 or 5 times, I'll get Sicker than a Big Bear. Naturally, I LOVE it, but I WILL pay a pretty hefty price....I think its just too rich or something...

kvflyer 02-19-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3027517)
That's why I bought a Corvair instead of a Camaro, stealthy cheap performance. lol

I hear you! This is what is in my garage:

http://www.streitsonline.com/don/RedCorvairYard.jpg

Anyway, I follow this tread with great interest...


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