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tvtimeisfun 09-13-2012 06:54 AM

23 in. Muntz tv score
 
:banana::banana:Last night I scored a 23 inch metal cabinet table set a friend of mine was cleaning out a attic and brought the set to me. I am thinking it is a 50s set pix will follow soon.. not sure on the condition of caps .. this makes my 3rd muntz set as soon as we get stuff situated we will post my collection on face book..:banana::thmbsp::D:D

radiotron 09-13-2012 08:42 AM

did you fire it up yet tim?

cwmoser 09-13-2012 09:53 AM

Like to see what the bottom of the chassis looks like

Carl

dieseljeep 09-13-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cwmoser (Post 3047786)
Like to see what the bottom of the chassis looks like

Carl

The set probably has the "L" shaped chassis. Still a minimal design.
CRT's were a weak point. Made by National Video.

tvtimeisfun 09-13-2012 01:47 PM

re muntz tv
 
The chasis is L-shaped mad man muntz had a way of desighning tvs hopefully pix will be up soon.. will keep you guys posted...

radiotron 09-13-2012 02:09 PM

what year is it?

dieseljeep 09-13-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by radiotron (Post 3047813)
what year is it?

23 inch would be 1962 and newer. I think they used a separate safety glass.
I don't know if that model used that big knob cluster, that contained all the operating controls.
Yes, we have no bananas!

Bill Cahill 09-13-2012 06:22 PM

Geez... I haven't had a Muntz sine I was 19. Wish I could have one..................
I was thinking 1959'ish.
Bill Cahill

wa2ise 09-13-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by radiotron (Post 3047813)
STOP THE BANANAS!

Ah, you're no fun...:D
:banana::banana::banana:
:banana::banana::banana:
:banana::banana::banana:

radiotron 09-14-2012 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wa2ise (Post 3047864)
Ah, you're no fun...:D
:banana::banana::banana:
:banana::banana::banana:
:banana::banana::banana:

people are getting very mad, not me but i didnt want to get shut down

miniman82 09-14-2012 08:59 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wky5H1xC6-I

radiotron 09-15-2012 05:07 PM

this is a nice set i saw it today its a 1955

John Folsom 09-15-2012 05:43 PM

Nick, you obviously have too much free tiem. :banana:

David Roper 09-15-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by radiotron (Post 3048037)
this is a nice set i saw it today its a 1955

Oh yeah, a 1955 Harvey!

Jeffhs 09-15-2012 08:16 PM

This Muntz TV is the first I've seen since the sixties, when one of my neighbors in my home town had a 21" console. They, like almost everyone else in the neighborhood at the time, also had a large chimney-mounted antenna (this was years before my neighborhood had cable).

Muntz TVs had almost bare-bones signal circuits (in addition to a minimalist design in general), which meant the sets did not work well in anything other than moderate to strong signal areas unless large, high-gain antennas were used. I grew up in a Cleveland suburb about 35 miles from the stations' transmitters, which meant that even for good black-and-white reception a good antenna was almost a must. Where I live today, a Muntz TV (in the old NTSC analog era) would need a very good outdoor antenna to get any kind of reception at all, as this area is perhaps 40 miles from the stations.

I doubt if a Muntz set would work at all with a DTV converter box fed by an indoor antenna; if it did, the performance would probably be so-so or worse (read nonexistent). I tried antenna reception on my analog TVs when I moved here almost 13 years ago and could not even get the NBC affiliate in Cleveland; the other stations, except CBS channel 19, were fair to poor at best. Digital reception here on an antenna is much better, but I still do not get two stations that are on VHF DTV channels.


BTW, I agree as far as the bananas are concerned; they are being used far too much in posts to this forum. Once in a while (for a touch of humor) is OK, but the extent to which they have appeared here lately, IMO, borders on the ridiculous.

David Roper 09-15-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffhs (Post 3048059)

I doubt if a Muntz set would work at all with a DTV converter box fed by an indoor antenna; if it did, the performance would probably be so-so or worse (read nonexistent). I tried antenna reception on my analog TVs when I moved here almost 13 years ago and could not even get the NBC affiliate in Cleveland......................................... .................................................. .................................................. ...................................

How well the converter box works with an antenna has zero to do with what type of set is connected to the box. Zero. I could've sworn this had explained to you before.

miniman82 09-16-2012 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by John Folsom (Post 3048038)
Nick, you obviously have too much free time. :banana:


I didn't make that, only posted it! :banana:

Jeffhs 09-16-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by David Roper (Post 3048063)
How well the converter box works with an antenna has zero to do with what type of set is connected to the box. Zero. I could've sworn this had explained to you before.

Sorry about that. I should have stopped and thought awhile (a good long while) before shooting off that post. You are correct -- since the box is actually connected ahead of the TV's own tuner, the make, model, vintage, etc. of the TV itself makes no difference. I've seen in this very forum posts showing 1950s and even late '40s TVs on DTV converters, and the sets work quite well with them, showing good pictures. Since the TV itself is basically just acting as a display (the set's own tuner and IF circuits are processing only the channel 3 or 4 RF output signal from the box and not an OTA signal from an antenna), the converter doesn't care if the TV it is connected to is five or 55 years old; the converter will work regardless. The same reasoning may be applied to VCRs and DVD/Blu-ray players -- they don't give a darn how new or old the TV they are used with may be; the units will work just as well, except of course with b&w NTSC TVs the picture will not be in color or in HD.

AiboPet 09-16-2012 08:15 PM

I have had a DTV converter overwhelm my little Sony S8-301....which otherwise does pick up stuff just fine from my little in-house transmitter (OTA).

If I were to look into it though....this may be handled by just looking at gain or AGC.

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David Roper 09-17-2012 03:17 PM

Don't call our banana phone, we'll call yours.


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