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Firebird 03-31-2013 09:46 PM

The Things People Throw Away
 
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Isn't it amazing the things people throw away. Especially when it is also for sale on craigslist.

wichita.craigslist.org/ele/3667197560.html

Firebird 03-31-2013 09:56 PM

Of course its a Magnavox.

Firebird 04-01-2013 03:43 PM

Waste of a Good TV
 
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Look at what someone threw out in the carport. Must have got a new flat screen for Christmas. 299 at walmart. I was told to pick it up. Where not even at home and a rain storm was coming.

Curtis Mathes M2662RH, was 1600 in 1986.
Filthy when i got it and paint spots. Dusted it off.
Plugged it in.
Look at it now. Even has a working radio.

Firebird 04-04-2013 11:50 PM

Am i the only one finding things in the trash where i thought i would never see them?

Reece 04-05-2013 05:06 PM

Yes, I've saved a number of sets out of the trash, watching one of them now, big, great color picture.

holmesuser01 04-05-2013 05:56 PM

I was out trying out the new transmission in my car, when I came across a nice looking 36" BPC JVC TV with the remote sitting on top. For some unknown reason, I stopped and picked it up. Took it home.

I opened it up, and it looks like brand new inside. No dirt or dust of any kind. I re-soldered the flyback, and the typical problem areas, just in case, and fired it up. Perfect picture/sound. Twin tuners, and picture in picture. Brand new in 1995.

Beside where it was sitting was a brand new flatscreen box. I knew the rest of the story.

This is my first 36" TV, ever. I'm sure glad that I had a friend riding with me to help pick it up... if it had not worked, he would have taken it for the copper in the yoke.

Trance88 04-06-2013 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by holmesuser01 (Post 3066211)
I opened it up, and it looks like brand new inside. No dirt or dust of any kind. I re-soldered the flyback, and the typical problem areas, just in case, and fired it up. Perfect picture/sound. Twin tuners, and picture in picture. Brand new in 1995.

Beside where it was sitting was a brand new flatscreen box. I knew the rest of the story.

Argh! Why can't people be happy with what they already have? I don't replace something until it's BROKEN!

Phototone 04-06-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Trance88 (Post 3066236)
Argh! Why can't people be happy with what they already have? I don't replace something until it's BROKEN!

Well, there are several valid answers to that.

1. People want a wide-screen high definition TV to be able to view BluRay and High Definition cable, satellite and cable programming at its best.

2. People need a TV that will tune current over-the-air digital material.

3. People don't want to have to carry such heavy TV in for service, assuming there is local service still available.

4. People want a TV that can display 3-D content.

andy 04-06-2013 11:05 AM

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Jeffhs 04-06-2013 11:07 AM

I blame at least some of this on the DTV transition. The early announcements that digital TV would eventually take over from NTSC television ("Your old TV will go black after February 17 [later June 19], 2009") had people believing that their old TVs would not work, period, once the new standards took effect. This was before DTV converter boxes came on the market; in those days, the only way to continue watching TV when the analog stations went off the air was to get a flat screen. Those sets were extremely expensive in the beginning, so not everyone had one or could afford one immediately following the transition. Some people even went without TV when they found out their old sets wouldn't work anymore with the new digital signals; of course, in many cases the old TV went out for the trash.

There were many predictions made to the effect that people would throw out their old TVs as soon as the transition was announced. I had visions of televisions, most of which were still working perfectly well, showing up on tree lawns and curbs all across the United States, after this announcement was made. Didn't see any old sets out for the trash in my own neighborhood, a very small town 35 miles east of Cleveland, but I bet in the greater Cleveland area perfectly good, working TVs were put out one after another. These people probably did not realize that the analog stations would remain on the air for at least a year after the transition.

Firebird 04-06-2013 04:37 PM

i don't think they should have shut the analog signal off for at least ten years. I think it was the tv industries way of making everyone start over. The signals are not that good, i live in a rural area and we only get a few channels. Had to go to satellite. Which cost money of course. Now you have all these tvs that are useless unless you buy an expensive converter. Makes small portables obsolete.

josephdaniel 04-06-2013 05:05 PM

I know around here the signal was horrible when they first switched but after awhile some of the stations increased their power and moved back to VHF so it's not too hard to get Chanel's anymore

holmesuser01 04-06-2013 05:34 PM

Here in the Western NC mountains, the signal has to be perfect, or I get lots of pixels and jerky sound. I'm stuck with it for now. Can't do anything else.

Firebird 04-12-2013 12:07 AM

40xbr800
 
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Look at what someone threw out a year ago. Took me that long to find all the parts for The D board or power board. His wife bought a flat screen and just wanted it out if the house. Its a Sony KV40XBR800. Cost him 4000 new in 2002.

dieseljeep 04-12-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by josephdaniel (Post 3066278)
I know around here the signal was horrible when they first switched but after awhile some of the stations increased their power and moved back to VHF so it's not too hard to get Chanel's anymore

I don't think they went back to VHF.
I do think, they increased their power. :thmbsp:

Firebird 04-14-2013 03:43 AM

In some parts of the country they never turned uhf off.

Firebird 04-14-2013 11:03 AM

Realigned convergance on Sony KV-40XBR800. Now it looks like new.

Dude111 04-16-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebird
Look at what someone threw out in the carport. Must have got a new flat screen for Christmas. 299 at walmart. I was told to pick it up. Where not even at home and a rain storm was coming.

Curtis Mathes M2662RH, was 1600 in 1986.
Filthy when i got it and paint spots. Dusted it off.
Plugged it in.
Look at it now. Even has a working radio.

Wow a radio also???

She is beautiful buddy!!!

People are fools and dont realise what they are getting rid of!!!

YamahaFreak 04-22-2013 01:38 PM

Wait, back up the train...somebody curbed an XBR800?? For the love of...

I lusted over those sets when they cost $4k new..I finally got one a few years ago on Craigslist. $240, clean, low hours, original remote. I'm still looking for the original SU-40XBR8 stand, and a replacement front control panel door/cover. I love this TV; probably the best I've ever owned...

Firebird 04-22-2013 07:16 PM

Sure did His wife bought a flat panel and wanted it out, He did not want to but she insisted. Took a year to get all the parts and straighten it out. Had that pesky chip problem among others. Is beautiful now.

YamahaFreak 04-23-2013 08:15 AM

I know I won't be getting rid of mine until it is well and truly beyond repair! :yes:

I don't know why, but I have been finding an increasing number of working sets in the trash. Just last week I saw a perfectly working 50-inch Toshiba TheaterView rear projector get destroyed for scrap...

lnx64 04-23-2013 08:45 AM

I'm keeping my Samsung in my sig. I will keep it till the tube wears out. Then I'll replace the tube and recap the set.

I want to be able to pass it down. It was my first big CRT TV repair and I'm proud of it.

truetone36 04-23-2013 08:52 PM

Just picked up a Zenith console off the curb 4 blocks from home. 23" CRT, single varactor tuner from July of '82. Not one single scratch or ding in the cabinet. I'll check out if it works or not tomorrow.

Firebird 05-19-2013 11:18 PM

I guess no one appreciates quality anymore.

holmesuser01 05-20-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebird (Post 3069740)
I guess no one appreciates quality anymore.

It's not that. People are driven by the least expensive idea, and have been brainwashed into thinking that even if they buy a more expensive version of what they are looking at, it's still going to break down and die right after the warranty runs out, so why waste the money?

I'm from an era when a washing machine could easily last 30 years. Same for a refrigerator. Those days are gone now.

Maytag of Iowa used to advertise the long-life of their washing machine designs. That changed in the mid to late 1980's, when they went to a plastic transmission.

I own a GE refrigerator that was built in 1966. It's keeping soft drinks ice cold. I also have a Whirlpool washer and dryer pair built in 1970. They are used daily, with no issues in over ten years. Parts are no longer available for them from Whirlpool. This is their way to get rid of them and make us buy something new that might last 8 years, if really lucky.

AiboPet 05-20-2013 03:09 PM

Was it Maytag that used to run the "lonely repair man" ads?...where Maytag machines were so reliable the repairman never heard from anyone.

Nobody seems to advertise "durability" anymore....like the Gorilla beating up the suitcases and stuff. Now it's just "latest and greatest"....and no longer "you won't buy another one for a long time"

holmesuser01 05-20-2013 05:14 PM

I love seeing people when they buy a house replacing the appliances because they are NOT stainless steel.

Right. Maytag had the lonely repairman series of commercials. My mom has a 1980 Maytag pair that has never had service of any kind.

wa2ise 05-20-2013 05:48 PM

Today the repairman is lonely because it ain't worth having today's junk fixed... :(

holmesuser01 05-20-2013 05:53 PM

I repaired my kitchen microwave. It's a 1988 Sharp unit with convection cooking, and a turntable. Replaced the magnatron and capacitor and diode for $66.

I guarantee that this unit will outlast any new model that I could have bought instead.

First and only repairs ever done, too. Now, back to our topic.

zeno 05-21-2013 08:42 AM

I did a little time in appliances. My sister asked what washer to buy.
I told her a 30 year old Maytag. She didnt & regrets it.....
Redid kitchen. New DW & MWO. Both weigh about a third of
the old Kitchen Aid & Quasar. Flimsy crap.
Bought a new box 5 yrs ago. Amana (whirlpool) defrost heater
opened. Part NLA at 3 yrs. Called the cat I got it from. He
brought over some others & got one to fit. Bring back the
mom & pop stores, big box wont do that for you. He also
told me whirlpool quietly bought back all the extended waranties
on mine & others. Most of the times its best to keep the
old stuff going if you can.
Enuf

73 Zeno

zeno 05-21-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by YamahaFreak (Post 3067341)
Wait, back up the train...somebody curbed an XBR800?? For the love of...

I lusted over those sets when they cost $4k new..I finally got one a few years ago on Craigslist. $240, clean, low hours, original remote. I'm still looking for the original SU-40XBR8 stand, and a replacement front control panel door/cover. I love this TV; probably the best I've ever owned...

Abt 5 yrs ago customer came in & wanted to dispose of a big Sony &
stand. Figured a 35". Boss told him $35 + $15 for the stand. A few
minutes later I look up & see a 40" XBR on the matching base.
It was hit by lightning. Asked the customer if he wanted us to
estimate it, he said no that he didnt want it, insurance paid
for it anyways. Usually lightning will destroy a modern set.
This time it was just the fuse................
A few phone calls & it was gone, $1500 cash & carry.

BTW when moving one of those beasts strap it to board.
Too much pressure on the bottom will cave it in. Happend to
a shop in my area. We sold a few of them & had a moving co.
put it in the room first then go set it up.

73 Zeno

NowhereMan 1966 05-21-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by holmesuser01 (Post 3069806)
I repaired my kitchen microwave. It's a 1988 Sharp unit with convection cooking, and a turntable. Replaced the magnatron and capacitor and diode for $66.

I guarantee that this unit will outlast any new model that I could have bought instead.

First and only repairs ever done, too. Now, back to our topic.

We have a Sharp unit like yours as well, ours is from 1985, we got it just after I graduated high school that year and it is still in use. My aunt gave us her 1999 Sony 35" trinitron in 2009 and it died a few months ago so we had to bring back the old 1982 Zenith System 3 (9-181 series) to frontline service. We were going to buy new flatscreen but I'm back looking for work and Mom is fighting breast cancer so the 1982 Zenith will have to do. Back to the microwave, if that unit goes and can't be fixed, we have a similar 1987 model on standby. :)

NowhereMan 1966 05-21-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Phototone (Post 3066250)
Well, there are several valid answers to that.

1. People want a wide-screen high definition TV to be able to view BluRay and High Definition cable, satellite and cable programming at its best.

2. People need a TV that will tune current over-the-air digital material.

3. People don't want to have to carry such heavy TV in for service, assuming there is local service still available.

4. People want a TV that can display 3-D content.

I do see your point on how heavy CRT sets are, especially above 25 inches, but still you can get great service with a few retrofits. The dead trinitron I have is a monster. My 1982 Zenith does Blu-Ray pretty well. ;)

Sandy G 05-21-2013 04:07 PM

My 36" Trinitron is starting to get a LITTLE tired, the whites kinda cycle from bluish-greenish to pinkish, & it COULD be a little sharper, but being I'm an iconoclastic bastard, I'll hold out getting one of those infernal Video Display Devices-One HATES to dignify them by calling 'em "Televisions"-for as long as possible...

Dude111 05-23-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by holmesuser01
IPeople are driven by the least expensive idea, and have been brainwashed...

Your right,they have been brainwashed........ TO THINK TRASH IS BETTER THAN ACTUAL BETTER THINGS THEY HAD BEFORE!!!

holmesuser01 05-23-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 3069879)
My 36" Trinitron is starting to get a LITTLE tired, the whites kinda cycle from bluish-greenish to pinkish, & it COULD be a little sharper, but being I'm an iconoclastic bastard, I'll hold out getting one of those infernal Video Display Devices-One HATES to dignify them by calling 'em "Televisions"-for as long as possible...


I've got a 27" Sony set that got hit by lightning when it was just out of warranty. The chassis was ruined. I stored the set in my garage for 21 years, until my 27" Sony EXR set CRT went weak. I swapped out the CRT's and now, I have a brand-new looking Sony that is 22 years old!

classictv80s 05-24-2013 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NowhereMan 1966 (Post 3069868)
We have a Sharp unit like yours as well, ours is from 1985, we got it just after I graduated high school that year and it is still in use. My aunt gave us her 1999 Sony 35" trinitron in 2009 and it died a few months ago so we had to bring back the old 1982 Zenith System 3 (9-181 series) to frontline service. We were going to buy new flatscreen but I'm back looking for work and Mom is fighting breast cancer so the 1982 Zenith will have to do. Back to the microwave, if that unit goes and can't be fixed, we have a similar 1987 model on standby. :)

NowhereMan 1966:

I'm very sorry to hear that your mother is ill. I hope she gets well soon. I've always enjoyed reading your posts, especially the ones about your 1982 Zenith TV.

We had a Sharp microwave that was purchased new in 1986. It was a great unit, but my mother gave it away to my aunt when she needed a microwave after her old one quit working properly. We bought a new one to replace the Sharp, and a couple of others along the way - all of which have had significant problems. I wish we had held on to that 1986 Sharp.

Rod Beauvex 05-24-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by holmesuser01 (Post 3070169)
I've got a 27" Sony set that got hit by lightning when it was just out of warranty. The chassis was ruined. I stored the set in my garage for 21 years, until my 27" Sony EXR set CRT went weak. I swapped out the CRT's and now, I have a brand-new looking Sony that is 22 years old!

Interesting. How old are the sets themsevles?

holmesuser01 05-24-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rod Beauvex (Post 3070239)
Interesting. How old are the sets themsevles?

The EXR set was built in 1991, and the lightning damaged set was built in 1993. The two CRT's just happened to be identical... right down to the yokes. I swapped them out, and only had to lightly touch up the convergence. Looking good!!

Dude111 05-24-2013 10:12 PM

Very nice!!

Im proud of you for not getting rid of the 1993 unit!!!

I hope ya have many more fine years with that sony bud :)


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