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Robb 08-04-2013 01:56 PM

1983 Magnasonic MBT 200 B&W TV (pics)
 
Picked up this vintage 1983 Magnasonic model MBT 200 B&W TV at an estate sale today for a measily $2. Works and looks like new. Not even 1 scratch on cabinet !
Doesnt seem like it was used much. It is a very clean set.
Made in Korea. It has a 12" screen.
The cabinet has a yellow tinge to it with marbleized swirls in it.
Is that bakelite ?
I cant find any info on it.

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radiotvnut 08-04-2013 02:31 PM

Nice set that looks to be a rebadged Samsung.

Eric H 08-04-2013 02:32 PM

It's a 12" set, pretty much the standard size for B&W by that time.

The cabinet is Plastic, Bakelite was long gone by 83, at least in TV's.
It has discolored from age and the fire retardants used in making it, it was probably plain white originally, many colored sets such as white, purple and pink, suffer from discoloration as they get older.

There are ways to restore the color, see here: http://videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=259066

Robb 08-04-2013 02:33 PM

The yellowing is caused by heat and UV sunlight, so I read.

mstaton 08-04-2013 02:33 PM

They quit making Bakelite in the 50's. That yellowed plastic can be cleaned. There is some info on it on this site and the net.

Robb 08-04-2013 02:43 PM

hmm, that retrobite method seems like too much work for a $2 set...lol

Robb 08-04-2013 02:57 PM

http://www.bluetronicsgroup.com/ Now owns Magnasonic as well as Electrohome, Citizen etc etc

Sandy G 08-04-2013 04:17 PM

Still looks like a STEAL for 2 bux...

Jon A. 08-04-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 3078143)
http://www.bluetronicsgroup.com/ Now owns Magnasonic as well as Electrohome, Citizen etc etc

All Canadian brands I reckon, Electrohome definitely is. I rarely see Magnasonic TVs mentioned anywhere. I used to have an '89 long ago. Couldn't find the brand on any universal remote list, worked with an RCA code though. I recall seeing Citizen-branded items. Used to have a VCR made under that name. Got it new in '93.

Robb 08-04-2013 05:28 PM

So I have a rare vintage Maggie set ! Must be worth alot then.... lol
Im sure the copper in it is in high demand ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI6ydpVrku4

Jon A. 08-04-2013 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 3078165)
So I have a rare vintage Maggie set ! Must be worth alot then.... lol
Im sure the copper in it is in high demand ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI6ydpVrku4

I'm pretty sure that Maggie is short for Magnavox. Just like most other vintage sets, it's worth "whatever someone will pay for it".

I hope you're joking about the copper thing...

Robb 08-04-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KV-1926R (Post 3078178)
I hope you're joking about the copper thing...

haha! ya im joking. This set is not going to be recycled !:no:

Jon A. 08-04-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 3078181)
haha! ya im joking. This set is not going to be recycled !:no:

Very good. :) Too bad about the plastic yellowing, happens so easily to sets with fire retardant materials in the plastic. Smoke can do it too. I've never seen a yellowed Apple II or Apple II Plus, from 1977 and 1979 respectively, but I've seen plenty of yellowed Apple IIe/IIc/IIgs computers, the first of those coming out in '83, so the fire retardants probably went into large-scale use around that time. Lots of yellowed early 70s Avantis I know, but Zenith products seemed to be in the forefront technology-wise for a long time.

Robb 08-04-2013 11:55 PM

Well, the set still exists and works and doesnt have any scratches. The yellowing I can put up with I guess...
I mean the set is 30 years old. Most have been tossed in the trash 20 years ago !

Sandy G 08-05-2013 07:14 AM

The name "Magnasonic" likely was sort of a ruse to get half-asleep consumers to think they were really buying a Magnavox or a Panasonic..

dieseljeep 08-05-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 3078209)
The name "Magnasonic" likely was sort of a ruse to get half-asleep consumers to think they were really buying a Magnavox or a Panasonic..

I was thinking the very same thing!
I saw a cheap solid state table radio in the late 60's branded "Tonysonic". :D

jmetal88 08-05-2013 09:49 AM

Front looks similar to a 1984 or 1985 Daytron TV my grandpa had. Back is totally different, though.

Robb 08-05-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 3078209)
The name "Magnasonic" likely was sort of a ruse to get half-asleep consumers to think they were really buying a Magnavox or a Panasonic..

http://s21.postimg.org/fy1x4xqw7/SIMPSONS_TV.png

AiboPet 08-05-2013 11:27 AM

LOL....Like a chinese "Sonya" TV I had a long time ago....and in the same Sony font on a little tag right in the front bottom of the set in gold.

Sorta wish I still had that 'ol thing....worst geometry ever and no convergence beyond the neck magnets.

Sandy G 08-05-2013 11:48 AM

Yeah, like "Bolex" watches..

Jon A. 08-05-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3078212)
I saw a cheap solid state table radio in the late 60's branded "Tonysonic". :D

Italian brand?

dieseljeep 08-05-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KV-1926R (Post 3078234)
Italian brand?

I think it was a Hong Kong import.
Edith Bunker: His name is Tony, something.
Archie Bunker: All Italians are Tony, something. :D

zeno 08-05-2013 03:16 PM

Yessah its a 12". Who made it ? It looks very Sharp but at that
time the ROK's were making some very good clones of well
known JP sets. So its either a Sharp or Korean clone.
Only top & bottom chassis shots tell for sure.

73 Zeno:smoke:

Jon A. 08-05-2013 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3078236)
Edith Bunker: His name is Tony, something.
Archie Bunker: All Italians are Tony, something. :D

Exactly! :D

There's a Magnasonic set being given away locally right now, but it's a SPC, likely from the early 2000s, so it's worthless to me.

dieseljeep 08-05-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeno (Post 3078252)
Yessah its a 12". Who made it ? It looks very Sharp but at that
time the ROK's were making some very good clones of well
known JP sets. So its either a Sharp or Korean clone.
Only top & bottom chassis shots tell for sure.

73 Zeno:smoke:

Some of the other Korean sets were Daewoo, KTV and Portland. :boring:

Robb 08-09-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3078272)
Some of the other Korean sets were Daewoo, KTV and Portland. :boring:

Never knew Daewoo made TV's.. lol
Their cars are horrible.
Daewoo cars were also available in the United States and Canada between 1997 and 2002, Australia and many other countries, until Daewoo's bankruptcy.
Now GM owns that crap..lol

zenith2134 08-09-2013 09:18 PM

Yes, I had a 1983 Portland 19" color TV. It was not a Daewoo--It was made by "Tahain electric wire co." and contained an Orion CRT.
Not a bad set.. I also curb-picked another Portland, from 1985. This one was a 19" color with electronic tuner(and LED readout) complete with digital clock on the front bezel. This set was a Daewoo.

Robb 08-11-2013 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenith2134 (Post 3078739)
Yes, I had a 1983 Portland 19" color TV. It was not a Daewoo--It was made by "Tahain electric wire co." and contained an Orion CRT.
Not a bad set.. I also curb-picked another Portland, from 1985. This one was a 19" color with electronic tuner(and LED readout) complete with digital clock on the front bezel. This set was a Daewoo.

cool. Good to know ! :smoke:

dieseljeep 08-12-2013 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 3078738)
Never knew Daewoo made TV's.. lol
Their cars are horrible.
Daewoo cars were also available in the United States and Canada between 1997 and 2002, Australia and many other countries, until Daewoo's bankruptcy.
Now GM owns that crap..lol

The Chevy Aveo is a Daewoo product.
The last firm, I worked at, had a Daewoo fork lift. The dealer did PM's on it, oil changes, grease jobs, etc. The service tech was remarking that the owners of them, were really pleased with them. :thmbsp:

Jon A. 08-12-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3078997)
The Chevy Aveo is a Daewoo product.
The last firm, I worked at, had a Daewoo fork lift. The dealer did PM's on it, oil changes, grease jobs, etc. The service tech was remarking that the owners of them, were really pleased with them. :thmbsp:

Someone around here put a fart can on a closed-trunk Pontiac Wave. Not sure if you would know that it's a badge-engineered Aveo. Suzuki also has a version of those things.

Robb 09-28-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KV-1926R (Post 3079023)
Someone around here put a fart can on a closed-trunk Pontiac Wave. Not sure if you would know that it's a badge-engineered Aveo. Suzuki also has a version of those things.

God almighty ! :thumbsdn:

Robb 11-28-2013 10:35 AM

Made a video of this TV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeYSm...iilZlA6BPw9HFQ

TVTim 11-28-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 3088323)
Made a video of this TV:

http://youtu.be/XcEA83xkaxI

The video is missing.

Robb 11-28-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TVTim (Post 3088325)
The video is missing.

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TVTim 11-28-2013 11:38 AM

That is COOL. Looks like new.

TVTim 12-01-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 3078209)
The name "Magnasonic" likely was sort of a ruse to get half-asleep consumers to think they were really buying a Magnavox or a Panasonic..

I always thought that about COBY. People thinking it was SONY.

Sandy G 12-01-2013 10:00 PM

I THINK a lot of these l'il guys were likely "Hit-Or-Miss"... If you got one that worked outta the box, it likely would continue to do so for a LONG time.. Otherwise, well, you're screwed... But, Big Deal.. This guy coulda retailed for $50 or less when new..Below the point where most of the K-Mart/Wal-Mart Nation would likely complain..

zenith2134 02-26-2014 10:02 PM

Good point, Sandy. I wonder how much the 1983 color TVs which I previously mentioned, went for back then ?
I can see an RCA 12" b/w going cheap starting in say, 1977, but a 19 inch color TV was still $125-$200+ for two decades following the mid-'70s, for example.


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