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Eric H 01-10-2014 09:21 PM

Scored a CTC 9 locally!
 
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It appears to be a model 210-CK-85, the "Anniversary" model according to Ed Reitan's Site.

It's complete except for the CRT cup but the cabinet is a bit rough.
At some point in the dim past someone covered it with hideously ugly contact paper, all shabby, no chic. Also the top has some blisters in the veneer, it looks solid other than that though.

It still has the original 1959 21CYP22 installed and it tested quite weak, even 9 volts wouldn't bring it all the way up, however a gentle cleaning and a very light restore on the red gun brought all three guns up to like new with a long life test. I don't know how well it'll hold up but it's encouraging.

Chassis looks clean from what I can see through the back.

Got this for $50 figuring even if it's just a parts set it's worth that.


What it should look like:
http://www.novia.net/~ereitan/Galler...versary595.gif

What it does look like:

mstaton 01-10-2014 09:38 PM

That's some hideous wallpaper!

Eric H 01-10-2014 10:01 PM

Now that you mention it, it might be wallpaper, I was thinking contact paper but maybe not.

Does anyone know what type of finish this set had, Photo or real veneer?

sampson159 01-11-2014 12:18 AM

ouch!i love the style of this set.peel that and lets see some wood!great,great score and this is not a parts set.its a restoration.it deserves its dignity

kramden66 01-11-2014 01:31 AM

Even if you have to hook a brightener to it it should look ok , its not like your going to be running it 5 or 6 hours a day , I have a couple color brighteners that are collecting dust , so for $50 even with the wallpaper it was well worth it

hi_volt 01-11-2014 07:38 AM

Very nice score. Definitely a "restore" set, and the price was right. Looking forward to seeing what the set looks like under the contact paper.

John Marinello 01-11-2014 10:21 AM

You should have asked if they still had the matching drapes...

Sandy G 01-11-2014 01:24 PM

Whoever did that deserves a good Kicking...

Steve D. 01-11-2014 02:21 PM

The more I look at the photo of the top, It looks like paint rather than wallpaper. In any case stripping the paint/paper could reveal, hopefully, a solid wood underneath that could be refinished. Not sure if this particular model used hardwood or fiberboard cabinets.

-Steve D.

Eric H 01-11-2014 03:16 PM

On closer inspection it is paint.
The cabinet feels like fiberboard, probably with a faux finish that wouldn't survive stripping. The only cure would be Veneering it.

Steve D. 01-11-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric H (Post 3092375)
On closer inspection it is paint.
The cabinet feels like fiberboard, probably with a faux finish that wouldn't survive stripping. The only cure would be Veneering it.

Eric,

Normally wouldn't recommend this, but if stripping and light sanding is successful and you have a smooth fiberboard result. How about spraying the cabinet w/primer and a high gloss black paint. Of course first removing all items/trim and carefully masking other areas. Like me, you live in So. Ca. and the weather is warm enough right now. Paint in a well ventilated area. Just a suggestion.

-Steve D.

Eric H 01-11-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve D. (Post 3092381)
Eric,

Normally wouldn't recommend this, but if stripping and light sanding is successful and you have a smooth fiberboard result. How about spraying the cabinet w/primer and a high gloss black paint. Of course first removing all items/trim and carefully masking other areas. Like me, you live in So. Ca. and the weather is warm enough right now. Paint in a well ventilated area. Just a suggestion.

-Steve D.

Steve, I have thought about that, might look good, or maybe I could apply a "Heywood Wakefield" type of Limed Oak Lacquer.
Sometimes Fiberboard can soak up paint like a sponge leaving a rough looking finish, perhaps Primer or Sealer is the trick to fix that.

Here's a shot of my Wynnwood after painting it, Black Lacquer is the original finish on this set, it really sets off the Brass accents, some of which are not reinstalled in this photo.

Carmine 01-11-2014 07:18 PM

There was a guy here who restored a set using silver paint to make it look like a newer model. You probably won't fool anyone with that football-shaped screen, but it's another idea!

ChrisW6ATV 01-11-2014 08:31 PM

Nice find, Eric!

That finish IS hideous. I like the veneer idea the most. The cabinet is beyond a restoration to original condition, so you could end up with a better-than-new cabinet that would be near the original color if I understand what is possible with veneers.

Eric H 01-11-2014 09:43 PM

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Got the set in the house and started giving it a look.
I found a repair tag inside with an address in (maybe) South Gate, the City Initials are SG and that seems to be a good match.

The location is an Apartment Complex but it may have been houses back in 1959.

Brought the set up on the Variac, (seller told me he had plugged it in and got nothing.) at around 80 volts I got some sound and the Horiz oscillator kicked in so I bumped it up to 90 volts and got high voltage and light on the screen. The CRT was so dead originally it probably wouldn't have lit, and by the way it held up great overnight, hooked the Beltron back up and all three guns shot up to full emissions very quickly, the life test is about 12-14 seconds before they even start to drop off so I think the CRT will be useable.

The chassis is remarkably clean and it's a CTC9A.

A finding of note, the "Artists" who painted it also signed their work!
Check out the last picture.

Eric H 01-11-2014 09:46 PM

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The top is pretty thrashed but at least it looks like real wood underneath.

Big Dave 01-12-2014 12:03 AM

Recap and you have a great set.

Electronic M 01-12-2014 12:39 AM

Looks like it should live again.

It may be ugly, but it is one way to deal with lousy photo finish...It still is uuuugly, though!

Charlie 01-12-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric H (Post 3092327)
Does anyone know what type of finish this set had, Photo or real veneer?

I have the same set. The top panel is veneer... the sides are faux.

miniman82 01-13-2014 03:26 PM

lol, a gilded CTC-9!

Looks like it will come back to full life with minimal recapping, vertical circuit is dead, but that's likely just a bad bypass cap/output tube, open pot or boost resistor. You could always do what I did to my Anderson console and veneer it, but WARNING it is very labor intensive!

Tubejunke 01-19-2014 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve D. (Post 3092381)
Eric,

Normally wouldn't recommend this, but if stripping and light sanding is successful and you have a smooth fiberboard result. How about spraying the cabinet w/primer and a high gloss black paint.

-Steve D.

I know that the set has been found to have real wood, but I thought that it would be worth adding something I learned from the TV show American Restoration. I can't remember what they were doing this to, but they showed a way of imitating a wood grain on something without real grain like fiberboard. What he did was laid down first a light brown coat coat of I think stain and then blended in some darker accents on top of that. Finally he took something like a trim brush; a small brush, and ran long strokes in what to the viewer seemed to be random parallel areas. I say that because the man said that there was a bit of an art to it and it takes practice, so it's not quite random, but more strategically planned.

At any rate, the end result was great. It really looked like wood grain. So, maybe this will help someone else who finds a TV that probably survived a hippie owner in the 60s or 70s who tried to make the world a little more beautiful, but failed....:smoke:

Phil Nelson 01-19-2014 02:50 AM

Do an Internet search for "wood graining" and you'll find lots of info. A skilled craftsman can create some amazing effects.

Phil Nelson

Steve D. 01-19-2014 10:57 AM

I worked at an L.A. TV station and then at several of the major studios in my career. I was always amazed at how the scenic artists could turn plain, cheap plywood or fiberboard into any type of wood grain the art director desired. This with paint and brush and, of course, years of experience. Certainly helped the budget and made the producers happy.:thmbsp:

-Steve D.

oldtvman 01-19-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve D. (Post 3093083)
I worked at an L.A. TV station and then at several of the major studios in my career. I was always amazed at how the scenic artists could turn plain, cheap plywood or fiberboard into any type of wood grain the art director desired. This with paint and brush and, of course, years of experience. Certainly helped the budget and made the producers happy.:thmbsp:

-Steve D.

Steve,

I went to menard'' and bought a roll of veneer to put on the top of my ctc5 Wingate. The original top had deep gouges in it and there was no way to save it.


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