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Console User 08-02-2014 08:05 AM

1983 RCA XL 100 Console TV
 
I just acquited this particular set. Haven't really checked it out too much yet. I have turned it on/off several times and notice maybe a little green tinit to the white in the snow. Could this be the green hue in the back of the set needing to be cut back a little?? Also, hooked up a converter box to the set without an antenna to see the screen. It looks pretty bright. Also, the screen seems a little green but turn off the AFT and that goes away. It needs to be cleaned up as it has alot of dust in the controls and etc. I did hookup a VCR and had sound but no picture. It seems to not want to do anything on Ch.3 but rather use Ch.4. I am going to bring it in today and see what happens.

The seller sent me photos of the set before I bought it and the picture(s) of the TV looked very good on a broadcast.

TVTim 08-02-2014 08:27 AM

I say hook it up and give it a try. Let's see what happens.

Console User 08-02-2014 09:08 AM

Not too bad of a picture for being in storage for so long. The white seems real bright too bright for me in the picture. Also, white lettering is a little fuzzy. When I turn the AFT switch off it makes the set buzz. I can't post pictures to this site, but if someone wants to private message me I sent photos with my cell phone.

Console User 08-02-2014 10:06 AM

Defintely have issues here with this particular set and episode of "Rebel" in Black and White has a very pronounced green tint to it. Must be the picture tube of the Green Hue needs adjustment??

Console User 08-02-2014 11:14 AM

The picture seems to be getting better and better the longer the set is on. It seems to me the picture tube is a little slow at warming up. They hadn't used this set for years and years. Therefore, it set idle for a long time.
I would think a trip to my repairman would be the answer??
Also, a switch in converter boxes makes a difference to.

Jon A. 08-02-2014 11:47 AM

Could be the caps re-forming after all this time, although plugging in directly would give them more of a jolt than is recommended. Their values could be all over the place now, who knows. The set isn't really old enough for damage to be done if it is powered up directly. If something in B&W shows color it could need a grayscale adjustment.

Console User 08-02-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon A. (Post 3111471)
Could be the caps re-forming after all this time, although plugging in directly would give them more of a jolt than is recommended. Their values could be all over the place now, who knows. The set isn't really old enough for damage to be done if it is powered up directly. If something in B&W shows color it could need a grayscale adjustment.

Thanks for the heads up. I was just thinking about that myself. I adjusted the Green Drive in the back and BINGO no more green tint in and episode of Rin Tin Tin.

These were really well made sets in their days.

Console User 08-02-2014 01:13 PM

How can I get a white background to not be so bright? When it comes to a pure white background it seems a little overdone to my eyes. :scratch2:

Console User 08-02-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Console User (Post 3111478)
How can I get a white background to not be so bright? When it comes to a pure white background it seems a little overdone to my eyes. :scratch2:

I adjusted both the Bright & Contrast and that helped some. Had to turn to much as I am afraid of loosing my good picture.

Why can't I get any of the Converter Boxes to work with TV on Ch.3. All, I get is some sound and black and white snow on Ch.3. Is this an idication of a problem in the turner or not?:scratch2:

zeno 08-02-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Console User (Post 3111488)
I adjusted both the Bright & Contrast and that helped some. Had to turn to much as I am afraid of loosing my good picture.

Why can't I get any of the Converter Boxes to work with TV on Ch.3. All, I get is some sound and black and white snow on Ch.3. Is this an idication of a problem in the turner or not?:scratch2:

Sounds like the CRT is just a little weak. Run with brite & contrast down
in subdued light. Even when new it wont have the snap of a newer set
but can deliver almost as good a pix if running properly. Keep on using it
& the CRT will improve to a point & always do your adjusting after a good warm up.

As far as your cable boxes go try the cable-normal switch. On an RCA
usually on the antenna terminal board or behind the control door.
On portables sometimes along the top rear of cabinet. Its there somewheres !

There are also very common & easy to fix tuner problems with RCA's
but cross that bridge if the time comes. For now best to get things
going with a VCR & tape, something the set "likes" & was designed
to use........

73 Zeno:smoke:

Console User 08-02-2014 10:33 PM

I am getting a real bad buzzing noise in bright white background commercials and maybe a little odd picture when this happens. I have the rotary dial to set your channel number. Can I correct this problem by adjusting the channel number setting with a screwdriver in the control panel under the rotary dial??:scratch2:

Jon A. 08-02-2014 10:48 PM

You mean there's a fine-tuning control for each VHF station? I saw that on a RCA portable before. If so, couldn't hurt to give it a twist.

Console User 08-03-2014 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon A. (Post 3111553)
You mean there's a fine-tuning control for each VHF station? I saw that on a RCA portable before. If so, couldn't hurt to give it a twist.

Yes, there's a fine tuning for each VHF channel on the dial. I might try to tweak it a little today & see if it helps or not? I have noticed that I have to have AFT switch On. If I turn it off the TV isn't as clear & also makes a static noise similar to what we use to get on an analog station when it was fading in and out.

Console User 08-03-2014 10:48 AM

Went and adjusted the VHF for Ch.3 it is now possible to run the box on Ch.3 now. I am blooming a little red on the outlines of certain pictures. Would it help to go in and turn down the red drive on the back of the set?? :scratch2:

dieseljeep 08-03-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Console User (Post 3111588)
Went and adjusted the VHF for Ch.3 it is now possible to run the box on Ch.3 now. I am blooming a little red on the outlines of certain pictures. Would it help to go in and turn down the red drive on the back of the set?? :scratch2:

That's known as color bleeding. The CRT has seen better days. :thumbsdn:

Console User 08-03-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3111591)
That's known as color bleeding. The CRT has seen better days. :thumbsdn:

Yes, I have heard it referred to as color bleeding. However,my TV Tech Repairman has also referred it as blooming. I will add this note as well. This color bleeding isn't occuring on the retro shows that were made back in the days of this style of set. It is just more pronounced on the new broadcasts and even that it's not terrible. We will probably keep on using it the way she is.

zeno 08-03-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Console User (Post 3111594)
Yes, I have heard it referred to as color bleeding. However,my TV Tech Repairman has also referred it as blooming. I will add this note as well. This color bleeding isn't occuring on the retro shows that were made back in the days of this style of set. It is just more pronounced on the new broadcasts and even that it's not terrible. We will probably keep on using it the way she is.

BLOOMING symptom is the pix will expand as brightness goes up.
With changes of scene it will "breathe" in & out. Very common on tube
sets but very rare on solid states.
BLEEDING or FLAMING is a streak to the right of a bright scene.
Can be one color or any color or white. Almost always weak CRT.
Turning up brightness & contrast make it much worse.

BTW since you have a "knob job" tuner forget the cable switch.
There are 12 presets for VHF fine tuning, one for each channel.
It is a screw so you can turn it quite a few times. Most the time
you can go to the next channel, ch5 can go to ch4 or ch6.
Proper way to FT is turn off any AFT & auto color switches,
fine tune for best pix then put the AFT on.

73 Zeno:smoke:

Console User 08-03-2014 03:31 PM

I changed my Converter Box to a different brand and this seemed to help with alot of the situtations I had explained above. :thmbsp:

Console User 08-03-2014 06:24 PM

To service or not to have serviced??
 
This 1983 RCA XL100 is 31 years old this past January. Is it necessary to take to my TV Shop and have it gone through? It seems to be working just fine now since I made some minor adjustments to it. The gentleman I bought it from had it worked on but don't know how many years ago that was as he hadn't used it for years.

If I have leaking caps. won't there be residue of leakage on the mainboard inside the cabinet?

If there was loose solders I would think I would have some wierd things visible wouldn't I? :scratch2:

Any information would be helpful and greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

rca2000 08-03-2014 10:45 PM

Many times turning up the screen control a bit will help with bleeding...if it is not too bad. Just do not turn it up to where retrace line show. Turn it to that point, then back it down till no retrace lines are present, with the brightness turned all the way down.. Then it should be right.

Console User 08-04-2014 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeno (Post 3111601)
BLOOMING symptom is the pix will expand as brightness goes up.
With changes of scene it will "breathe" in & out. Very common on tube
sets but very rare on solid states.
BLEEDING or FLAMING is a streak to the right of a bright scene.
Can be one color or any color or white. Almost always weak CRT.
Turning up brightness & contrast make it much worse.

BTW since you have a "knob job" tuner forget the cable switch.
There are 12 presets for VHF fine tuning, one for each channel.
It is a screw so you can turn it quite a few times. Most the time
you can go to the next channel, ch5 can go to ch4 or ch6.
Proper way to FT is turn off any AFT & auto color switches,
fine tune for best pix then put the AFT on.

73 Zeno:smoke:

I love the name "knob job" that is clever!!


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