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jstout66 08-02-2014 06:14 PM

80's Sharp Linytron Score
 
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Picked up this set for free today. Not sure of the model # as the back tag is missing. I would guess it to be mid 80's vintage. Pretty basic set with no OSD, and a pretty simple remote ( which doesn't even have mute) The power button on the remote is combined with a 3 tier volume level. Great pix on it tho! Not what I normally "collect", but it was going to get pitched, soooo....

Jon A. 08-02-2014 06:51 PM

Very cool, definitely something I would have grabbed as well. I would say early 80s. Not very common I would think, those ultrasonic remotes rarely show on eBay.

Sandy G 08-02-2014 09:38 PM

Neat !

Username1 08-02-2014 10:16 PM

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YEA ! ! ! A SHARP ! ! ! THE BEST TVS ! ! !

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Robb 08-02-2014 10:41 PM

Never seen this one.

jstout66 08-03-2014 08:17 AM

I've been running it this morning... damn it's got a GOOD picture for being such a BOL set. It may be older than I think due to the Ultrasonic remote, but in comparison, my 81 Zenith 19" (TOL) has an IR remote, cable ready, OSD, and built in Spacephone and weighs a ton.

Username1 08-03-2014 08:32 AM

If you find the sharpness, and focus knobs you will get an even better picture
if you tweek the focus, and set the sharpness to something less than overkill....

I have found on lots of 80's - 2000 crt sets, even the ones with the hated black
plastic cabinets, if you open them up, and find and adjust the focus, and possibly
even touch up the convergence if the white glue has dried and cracked, the
set will deliver an unbelievably sharp (pun intended) picture....

I don't think it was a BOL set, Sharp did not have tiers to their line through that
time period. The features of each size tv was pretty standard through the line.
The difference was in the cabinets. Many of those years also came with wood
cabinets of various qualities. Along with the cabinet upgrade, was often aux.
video and audio inputs to make them compatible with their Optinica (sp) High
end audio line. They were all STK IC chip audio outputs, so Hi end as far as
those chips went.... But they did sound good.... Rocked the TV Shop good ! !

I think yer lucky to have gotten the remote...... Very good find....

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jstout66 08-03-2014 08:46 AM

HA! The sharpness IS on "overkill" haha. The picture is so sharp, it kind of hurts your eyes. Greyscale and convergence are dead on.
Too bad you're not close. You could have the TV. I usually don't go for that "new" but with that simple remote, I just HAD to.

zenith2134 08-03-2014 09:33 AM

One day I'll post pics of my Sharp TVs. I actually have quite a few like this, one with composite ins and outs, and one with OSD and remote. The others are plain jane. All have Toshiba Blackstripe picture tubes, which explains the great contrast. All free from CL

Jon A. 08-04-2014 01:10 AM

Three-button ultrasonic remote, just like my Chromacolor in that way, gotta love it. I don't think the Space Command 500 was around for that long.

TVTim 08-04-2014 04:47 PM

What a cool set. I have a 19" table model that I got for five buckaroos. Love it. Although mine has a full remote to it.

Username1 08-04-2014 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jstout66 (Post 3111577)
HA! The sharpness IS on "overkill" haha. The picture is so sharp, it kind of hurts your eyes. Greyscale and convergence are dead on.
Too bad you're not close. You could have the TV. I usually don't go for that "new" but with that simple remote, I just HAD to.

Thank you ! If I were close I'd be happy to take it..... And very proud to have it....
Who knows maybe someday..... I have a number of Sharp sets of the late 70's and
Early 80's. As I said before I worked at one of their farmed out factory service centers
just across the line from the NJ headquarters..... I should take pictures....
They are not doing all that well, who knows....

I have good memories of my first and only TV shop job just out of HS. Back then
my boss picked the sets he worked on, He liked Sharp, Panasonic, Sanyo,
(Which I also like a lot) Magnavox, and RCA, which he was authorized service for
all those brands. He hated Sony, he said they were a birds nest inside and
their circuits were just barely on the edge of not working. He did let me
see a few Sonys and they did look like there was no planning on the board
layout, or where wires came off the board. Panasonic, Sanyo, Sharp, WOW he
is right, the difference is night and day..... I have respect for a nicely made
product, so I like Sharp. My boss told me all kinds a good stuff about the company,
I met a lot of the big wigs, we went for training on their VCR's and paper print
calculators. We use to clean and repair them too.... Let me tell you back then
the VCR manual was as big as a phone book.... I wish I had a few of the VCR's
and those books.....

Me and two other guys in my BOCES TV school class were hired to work on the
Sharp stuff from the factory, and Yorks and LLoyds clock radios we got by the skid
load weekly. Once in a while when we were caught up I would work on walk in's and
I was the guy that would go out to pick up Magnavox returns to Caldor, and after George
went back to Cuba I was then handed the keys to the '69 Cutlass which was the
service vehicle for house calls..... Mostly a house call was goin out to old lady's
houses to push the auto color button, or pick it up and take it back to the shop....
It was all warranty work. Worst I had to do was modify IF boards on some
Panasonic sets that made noise with white writing on the screen when hooked
up to cable.... That was an hour or so.... Imagine- A kid right outa high school
Soldering on people's carpets.... HA HA HA......

Just one kids story of being brought out the the edge of the pier and pushed in....

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N2IXK 08-05-2014 07:40 AM

Those sets actually made a good picture when they worked, but my memories of Sharp sets from the 1980s mostly involved replacing countless flybacks that arced through and caught fire on the "H" and "J" series chassis. Usually the flyback took a bunch of other parts with it.

Apparently there was a class action suit and part of the settlement involved free repairs of affected sets. Sharp provided free "meltdown kits" containing the flyback, HOT, LV regulator SCR, and a handful of resistors and caps. The shop I worked at was ordering these kits by the dozen at one point.

Jeffhs 08-05-2014 10:25 PM

I had a Sharp b&w 12" tube-type portable in 1970. The set produced a good picture while it was working, but it lasted only three years before developing a tuner problem. I was able to work around it by propping up the VHF tuner shaft with a screwdriver. The set finally quit for good in 1973. :no:

Jeffhs 08-05-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jstout66 (Post 3111504)
Picked up this set for free today. Not sure of the model # as the back tag is missing. I would guess it to be mid 80's vintage. Pretty basic set with no OSD, and a pretty simple remote ( which doesn't even have mute) The power button on the remote is combined with a 3 tier volume level. Great pix on it tho! Not what I normally "collect", but it was going to get pitched, soooo....

It's interesting to me that your TV's remote does not have the mute function. Most TVs with ultrasonic remotes did have the mute feature, either as a fourth position of the volume stepper relay (mute, low, medium, high volume), or as a completely separate button on the hand unit. This interests me because the first TV remote control by Zenith, the ill-fated and short-lived "Flash-Matic" of the mid-1950s, did have a photocell that activated the mute function when the ray-gun style controller was pointed at it. Why Sharp decided not to include sound muting on some of its Linytron TVs, however, is a mystery to me. :scratch2: Linytron (which I think stands for in-line color CRT) sounds like it must have been one of Sharp's premium sets of the '80s, so it should have had all the bells and whistles, including mute and OSD.

Jon A. 08-06-2014 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffhs (Post 3111795)
It's interesting to me that your TV's remote does not have the mute function. Most TVs with ultrasonic remotes did have the mute feature, either as a fourth position of the volume stepper relay (mute, low, medium, high volume), or as a completely separate button on the hand unit. This interests me because the first TV remote control by Zenith, the ill-fated and short-lived "Flash-Matic" of the mid-1950s, did have a photocell that activated the mute function when the ray-gun style controller was pointed at it. Why Sharp decided not to include sound muting on some of its Linytron TVs, however, is a mystery to me. :scratch2: Linytron (which I think stands for in-line color CRT) sounds like it must have been one of Sharp's premium sets of the '80s, so it should have had all the bells and whistles, including mute and OSD.

I have many ultrasonic remotes that lack a mute function. Some also have color controls which I think is overkill.

Username1 08-06-2014 12:33 PM

I don't think Linytron was anything more than marketing. Possibly even just to confuse
customers as sounding like Trinatron.... Sharps that did not have the linytron name on
the front seemed the same inside.....

I'm more than sure it was possible to run a confusion scam like this easy. I am also in
marketing, and it's amazing that even if you watch "Verizon Fios" commercials 20 a day,
8 days a week, for 6 years, customers will still ask, "Well can I upgrade my TWC internet to
get Fios....?" I guess customers need to be shown the differentiation between the Two different
Companies, as it seems they think that Fios is a different type of "Service" TWC and Verizon
both offer....

During that Linytron time period Panasonic I believe had Quintrex, Toshiba had BlackStripe,
etc, etc.... It was all just an inline tube, and I'm pretty sure they had all switched to black
material of some kind between the color dots.....

As for the flyback thing.... My 1985 Linytron 25" "Protable" with real simulated wood grain
finish... !!! I had got because someone threw it out down the street from me. It had
chard circuit board under the flyback and arced under there as well. I cleaned it and
removed the parts of the board that was damaged, then hand wired that part back.
She has worked well as our daily use set since about '92, 5+ hours a day, almost every day.

On remotes, Sharp had wired remotes for a lot of their VCR's and those remotes back then
didn't do all that much....... Linyton sets came out for the most part after my short
tv repair career, so I don't know what the official poop was on that name.... But I put
my chips on marketing scam.

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zenith2134 08-06-2014 02:44 PM

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Out of all my Sharps, this one probably has the best picture...and it has been well-used. The remote is infrared and has RAT and Mute. It's a plain style set, without OSD, but has a really good pic. Too bad my cellphone camera makes all my TVs look like shit. It's a linytron from 1984 and was built in Malaysia, not Japan. If it wasn't for the Blackstripe CRT, it would probably just be a mediocre solid state performer..the chassis is a basic singleboard layout with mostly chips instead of discrete devices.

Username1 08-06-2014 06:15 PM

Here is a 19" Linytron 1987, and a Toshiba 19" from 1984 CF904 Both in Queens Glen
Oaks area, the ad is almost 30 days old, but both sets look very clean.....
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/ele/4566606464.html

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Jon A. 08-06-2014 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by zenith2134 (Post 3111827)
Out of all my Sharps, this one probably has the best picture...and it has been well-used. The remote is infrared and has RAT and Mute. It's a plain style set, without OSD, but has a really good pic. Too bad my cellphone camera makes all my TVs look like shit. It's a linytron from 1984 and was built in Malaysia, not Japan. If it wasn't for the Blackstripe CRT, it would probably just be a mediocre solid state performer..the chassis is a basic singleboard layout with mostly chips instead of discrete devices.

My Canon Powershot camera is no better in that regard. Light conditions almost always have to be optimal for decent pictures. It has more settings than I care to remember, but nothing will correct the faults. I had better luck with a cheap 110 film camera and my Polaroid.

zenith2134 08-06-2014 07:53 PM

I'd like to have that Toshiba in the CL ad, but I really can't justify paying money for a set from '84..those still turn up for free sometimes.

Username1 08-06-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by zenith2134 (Post 3111848)
I'd like to have that Toshiba in the CL ad, but I really can't justify paying money for a set from '84..those still turn up for free sometimes.

I have paid for all but 2 of my 80's Sharps. I think of it as a "Thanks for taking care
of my tv Fee" I'm much happier to pay it vs. some taxes and bank fees.

I got 2 Sharps from just outside Boston 3 years ago, the ad asked just to give
them a good home. They belonged to the girl's parents as they spent their last
few years in a home. She said both sets were "on" for less than 4 hours a week,
for about 2 years a piece.... After they had died, she was just reducing stuff in the
house. I wrote and told her about my first job with our shop servicing Sharps, and that
I would be keeping them for good, and she just gave them to me. She was really nice,
and we traded stories outside on her porch for about 2 hours before I drove back.
Experiences like that always leads me to always look for the possibility, more
positive than not, that my next CL encounter will be a good one.....

And I must say, most are positive....

And yah, I would like to have that Toshiba as well as the Sharp....

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zenith2134 08-06-2014 08:33 PM

I've had mostly good CL experiences too for the most part...And I haven't paid for most of my TVs, most were curb finds or word-of-mouth. Some came from estate sales of deceased people for very little money. I did however purchase a few small TVs on ebay and had em shipped.. a Quasar cube set from the 80s, with the remote that is a small miniature of the tv itself, from Georgia, and a Sentinel b/w portable from Maine which I restored. Have gotten lucky for the most part with shipping.
Does anyone know if that Toshiba is a remote set? I don't think it is..I have a 1980 Toshiba 19" with ultrasonic 4 button remote...the Volume control on the TV is actually a slider, which is to be used as a preset volume control..and the remote only makes the volume as loud as you set the slider. Sort of a 'hybrid' remote volume control. From 1980. The CRTs are really high-performance in these IMO. Maybe I'll make an offer..but I doubt it

Jon A. 08-06-2014 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenith2134 (Post 3111857)
Does anyone know if that Toshiba is a remote set? I don't think it is..I have a 1980 Toshiba 19" with ultrasonic 4 button remote...the Volume control on the TV is actually a slider, which is to be used as a preset volume control..and the remote only makes the volume as loud as you set the slider. Sort of a 'hybrid' remote volume control.

That's how my '73 Zenith volume control works, but with a knob instead of a slider. Goes only one way, starts at the highest preset point.

TVTim 08-10-2014 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Username1 (Post 3111829)
Here is a 19" Linytron 1987, and a Toshiba 19" from 1984 CF904 Both in Queens Glen
Oaks area, the ad is almost 30 days old, but both sets look very clean.....
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/ele/4566606464.html

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For once, I wish I was on Long Island (born and raised there. Ran away from there 14 years ago late last month!).

Jon A. 08-30-2014 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Username1 (Post 3111576)
I don't think it was a BOL set, Sharp did not have tiers to their line through that
time period. The features of each size tv was pretty standard through the line.
The difference was in the cabinets. Many of those years also came with wood
cabinets of various qualities. Along with the cabinet upgrade, was often aux.
video and audio inputs to make them compatible with their Optinica (sp) High
end audio line. They were all STK IC chip audio outputs, so Hi end as far as
those chips went.... But they did sound good.... Rocked the TV Shop good ! !

I think yer lucky to have gotten the remote...... Very good find....

Funny, I mention how rarely those Sharp ultrasonic remotes show up on eBay, then I score one a few days later. Not only that, mine is the 5-button version that separates the power and volume controls, which I had never seen before. Other than that it's the same as the one shown. Perhaps it is meant for the models with A/V inputs?

sampson159 08-30-2014 05:22 PM

dave had one of these back in the 90s.it was a shop watcher for awhile until it developed a vertical issue.extremely sharp with the control at minimum.he installed some caps and it played for about 30 minutes before we heard a loud bang.it was like a shotgun!when the smoke cleared,the set was gone.dont know what happened but it was scrapped.


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