Color? Roundie in PA
 

Ok so forgive my complete lack of knowledge in color sets but this looks like it might make some one really happy for $25.
http://binghamton.craigslist.org/atq/4652034976.html

http://images.craigslist.org/00o0o_5...0y_600x450.jpg

I'll be in Binghamton next weekend! Emailing the seller :)

CTC-5 Arliss with the CTC-5N, "Deluxe", chassis. Should be one hell of a performer!

Hope you get it, Tim!

I'm all tingly thinking about it! :D

wow nice, pay pal them the 25$ now. that way they know you are going to show up. let them know that you will be there to move it as well. the one I got had a busted neck pretty sure after the guy got it out for me to load up.

keeping my fingers crossed for you!! they are nice sets and easy to work on.

Just talked to the seller. Made him an offer well over the asking price to hang on to the set for me till next weekend, and paid by PayPal.

Mine! Mine mine mine mine mine :yippy:

Thanks John!!!

:banana:

great news :thmbsp:

I may not have known what it was but I was pretty sure it was an early color set and that some one would be excited about it. I'm glad you got it Tim :thmbsp:.

Wow - you gotta post M O R E pictures when you get it home.....

Don't think I've seen a cabinet like that.... Very nice....

You gotta post picts of the speakers too.... Looks like it may have more than one.....

Nominating for "deal of the decade !"

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Well, since I REALLY wanted the guy to hang on to the set and give it some legitimacy, I paid him $100 for it.

Still a bargain :)

I'll bet he was tickled pink that you paid 4 times his asking price. Either that or he's wondering if it's worth thousands.

Great job Tim, its just payback for helping others find their treasures!:)

As soon as I saw Binghamton I figured this had you written all over it, Tim. Very nice cabinetry. Hopefully the fact that they plugged it in didn't burn out anything hard to replace.

If I didn't already have a ctc5, I would probably have done the exact same thing,
you still got a good deal..... A few extra dollars is always a good motivator.....

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Its over at AR, someone was worried about room for it !!
Told him to get it, guess the best man won :banana:
Even I would have gone for this one.....
Congrats:thmbsp:

73 Zeno:smoke:

Good set for someone who said he got out of tube color. All you needed was one that's good enough to bring you around again.

I would have done the same (if able to) for a well-kept example of a set that I wanted.

I think that's the nicest looking cabinet that's ever contained a color TV. :thmbsp:

Tim,

Congratulations! That's a neat set! I had a CTC-5 Arliss many years ago when I was very young and first got into collecting vintage color TVs. The cabinet needed help, the back was missing, and the CRT had been necked. I loved that set though. It was the first set that, even though it didn't work, really brought the excitement of early color TV to life for me. Got rid of it many years ago, sadly. Yours is the only other one I've seen listed in all this time. Keep us posted as you work on it. Great find!

Gilbert

Looking forward to pictures! :yes:

Hope the CRT is good.

I'm more interested in the color roundie sets that are 1959 and up.. But this one surly takes the cake... I absolutely LOVE this design...

Congratulations Tim! Great find!:banana:

I live in Syracuse and check the listings daily in Craigslist for Syracuse and surrounding areas. I did not see this one come up. Was it listed for only a few hours?

You may recall I restored a CTC5 Whitby with the Deluxe chassis picked up in Toronto a couple of years ago. I feel the CTC5 is a good set but it has had a bad rap. Perhaps it is because the design had problems with the saggy HV Supply. It is good you have this set as we can open more CTC5 discussion. I have been putting off doing further work on my set and now will pursue this.

It looks like the Arliss has it's original 21AXP22A. Mine did and I was surprised that the tube survived and emission tested excellent. Perhaps the reason the CRT survived was the drooping HV problem which made the picture a bit dim which deterred extra use? I trust the CRT in the Arliss will be good. :yes:

On a side note, the CTC5 and all subsequent RCA vacuum color tube sets, (up and beyond the end of the roundies) employed X-Z color demodulation. Of these, only the Deluxe CTC-5 employed a wide band chroma channel (+1.5/-0.5MHz). The upside of this will be better chroma resolution and the downside will be quadrature crosstalk between X and Z channels. The trade off is interesting and I remain curious the why wideband chroma was dropped in subsequent RCA sets. Was it cost or perhaps no actual technical benefit ?(Wideband chroma would require an extra tube for the required extra amplification).

In any case, as you work on it I look forward to more CTC5 discussions!

Cheers,

Terry

Just picked it up! It's in the van, not a scratch on it! Looks mint!! It was at a nice house WAYYY in the woods among some "amazing" homes. One house was a school bus body with the back cut off, and attached to a larger version of Snoopy's doghouse with a locking door on it, I kid you not :eek:

Waiting to meet another VKer for some set swapping shortly. But the 5 is coming home with me :)

While we're waiting for him to come in, my wife is watching Cinderella and I admit that if I hafta sit through this whole movie I'm gonna go insane :D . We've got a suite at the Courtyard Marriott here, then we're gonna go to a froo froo restaurant.

And people wonder why my wife has no issues with any TVs I wanna buy ;) . It's balance, gentlemen :D

Great. I was waiting to hear when you picked up the set.

I think the CTC5 deluxe is an excellent set and excellent find. Look forward to you getting it running.

Cheers,

Terry

Well, I'm home now. $180 in gas and 3.5 hours each way in my big old van. Good thing I met up with another VKer to get some good stuff :)

The set is almost spotless inside save a light layer of dust, and has a Utah speaker in it, much to my surprise. Someone very carefully made a homemade back for this set. It was very well loved.

Tested the 21AXP22. No filament light. Stone dead.

Damn :(

I don't think that's a huge problem, a compatible CRT ought to be an easier find than the set itself.

Tim,

Congratulations. Glad it was you that scored that rare Arliss and made that listing disappear so quickly. And w/UHF as a bonus. I'm sure you'll locate a roundie tube although a good testing 21AX would be a plus. Watching PGA golf on my CTC-5 Wingate right now.

-Steve D.

Ahhh HATE Yew !-Y. Sam, Esq. Seriously, GREAT score, even w/the dud CRT. I'm hoping you can "over volt" it back into life...

if all three are out, maybe try reflowing the pins, check for continiuty just in case your CRT tester is acting up as well.

Yep, all three are out. Between which pins should there be continuity?

I THINK it is 1 and 14 for the fils..

PRAY..it is just bad connections in base !!

Can you tell if the getters look ok? If they DO--air is NOT likely a problem..

I hate to be the voice of doom and gloom but dead heaters in a 21AXP is likely due to the tube going to air, pull the yoke and see if the getter is white, It's located in a thin band between the inside Dag around the neck.

yep if the getters are white game over (hicks).

Here's what the getter looked like in my gone-to-air 21AXP22:

http://antiqueradio.org/art/RCACTC-4CRTGetter.jpg

http://antiqueradio.org/art/RCACTC-4CRTGetter1.jpg

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

I'm going to guess that it's not the pins. This socket is on the neck very solidly. It'll be a couple days before I'm able to do any more work on it, as the set is still in the van, and I have no idea where it's going in the house. But then again, I didn't even know where it would go when I bought it :para: :D

crt
 

I have a few good all glass crts if you want to convert it for now till a metal crt comes around.

What part numbers?

Fascinating thread.

I suppose I jumped the gun when I suggested the tube may be good.

Phil, did you ascertain where the leak actual occurred on your 21AXP22A? Eg did you see any cracks or did it likely leak from the metal to glass seal?