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rca2000 10-08-2014 09:54 PM

Why no love for this GE roundie ?
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/361069957669...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

It is indiana, and if my funds were a bit more stable right now--I would go for it.

tvcollector 10-09-2014 12:36 AM

I'm bidding on it.. As alot of you all know on here, I've been wanting one of these..

ChrisW6ATV 10-09-2014 01:02 AM

The only lack of love may be because it is a "local pickup only" item, in Indiana.

If it was near here, I would be tempted to put on my nice clothes, and some aftershave, give it some red roses, and offer to buy it a drink. :)

Jon A. 10-09-2014 05:27 AM

I'd say the lack of love is because it isn't a RCA.

oldtvman 10-09-2014 08:01 AM

It's about 140 miles away from me. Problem is I don't have any more room for sets.

dieseljeep 10-09-2014 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon A. (Post 3116777)
I'd say the lack of love is because it isn't a RCA.

It looks like the last roundie GE. The CB chassis, with their color circuit that uses the crystal-ringer circuit. At least, the CRT doesn't have a cataract.

DaveWM 10-09-2014 11:17 AM

wow almost missed this one, thanks for posting the ebay link.

DaveWM 10-09-2014 12:02 PM

hope it does not have a smoked fly, the one I have gets pretty hot.

rca2000 10-09-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveWM (Post 3116795)
wow almost missed this one, thanks for posting the ebay link.


NO problem. Unlike SOME--I do NOT have the attitude of" If I can't have it then NO ONE should have it". I knew it was problematic right now for me to afford it--even though it is only a couple hours away--but I did NOT want it to go with no bids and end up in a PACKER TRUCK--which may very WELL have been the case otherwise.

Better ONE OF US get it--than a dump or fishtanker or such !!

tvcollector 10-09-2014 02:32 PM

I feel the same way also.. I wish there were more people in my area that collect these old TV sets other than me.. My local CL currently has quite a few vintage stuff that just sits on there, (mostly solid state 70s stuff and some B&W 40s sets) even at decent prices too..

I'm getting this set in unknown condition, and I'm going to expect that the tube is a dud so I don't get my hopes up to be disappointed..

DaveWM 10-09-2014 02:43 PM

Well I just wanted to follow this one, I have the exact model already that I got locally. the fly runs hot but I have a spare so no big deal.

tvcollector 10-09-2014 04:29 PM

Does anyone know what Sams folder set this is?

DaveWM 10-09-2014 08:27 PM

IIRC there was not a separate sams for just the roundie. The CA did have its own but it was just an RCA clone, the CB sams covered both the rectangle and roundie, with the rectangle having an extra pcb shown optionally for the pincushion. I think it had a schematic glued to the inside of the cab that was factory (not sams) that was roundie specific, but hard to work from since it was glued in and not very large. you should prob get the GE tab book as it covers all the odd GE stuff, but I think that one also shows the CB as a roundie or rectangle as well. The CB was very different as far as circuitry with some odd faults not seen on other sets of the era. Its basicly just a big porta color demodulator.

tvcollector 10-10-2014 12:19 AM

I saw your video.. Nice set.. Looks like I saw a Sams in that video that covers the set.. which Sams? I did a search on GE Tab Book and nothing related shows up.. infact this new Google dumb search wants to add "Guitar" in the search results..

hi_volt 10-10-2014 07:53 AM

Glad you got it. Looking forward to some pix.

DaveWM 10-10-2014 08:43 AM

general electric tab books. its out there in google land.

tvcollector 10-10-2014 10:20 PM

I found volumes 1 and 2 on eBay.. I got them both.. I'll be posting a bunch of pics...

mglicker 10-12-2014 06:27 PM

This one looks like a pass.

tvcollector 10-12-2014 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mglicker (Post 3117051)
This one looks like a pass.

What do you mean by that?

Jon A. 10-12-2014 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvcollector (Post 3117056)
What do you mean by that?

Beats me, but considering that it's not the ubiquitous RCA, even I must say nice save although it's not from my preferred era.

tvcollector 10-12-2014 07:46 PM

I think more people are getting tired of RCA.. It's nice to see other sets than the typical RCA for a change.. I like color roundie sets from the late 50s to mid 60s era the best..

He may be referring to the pic tube..

Jon A. 10-12-2014 09:04 PM

The condition of the picture tube is anyone's guess. I'd say that the lack of a cataract is a good sign.

My '78 XL-100 is an exception to my rule. Plain but I really like it and it's in excellent condition, nearly mint.

tvcollector 10-12-2014 09:13 PM

Well I spoke to the seller, which is a lady.. I asked her about the history and she said her parents bought it new.. I asked her if it still worked or if she had tried it, and she said she didn't know, it was the down stairs TV, while they had gotten a newer one for upstairs.. I asked her when they stopped using it, and she guessed around 20 years ago, that would be around the early 90s, I said they probably stopped using it probably longer than 20 years ago.. More like the 70s or early 80s, and she seemed to agree.. So it's coming from the original owner, and looks like it may have been well used, which could be a good or bad thing.. Good if the tube is a newer rebuild, and if the fly is still good, or been replaced..

tvcollector 10-22-2014 02:08 PM

Now that I got the tab book, I still would like to know the Sams Photofact to get... The Sams still provides alot more details..

Findm-Keepm 10-22-2014 02:38 PM

Sams 826 Folder 1 or Sams 843 - little difference, mostly model differences (knobs, etc). CA or CB Chassis.

Findm-Keepm 10-22-2014 02:49 PM

FYI, that chassis uses the "ET" prefix for all the parts. GE later abandoned that prefix, and assigned the parts as "ES" parts. The part number changed completely, adding a lot of confusion. An ET36X601 is not the same as an ES36X601 - instead it would be assigned a completely different ES36X number. Real pain, especially with knobs, and GE updated their service lit only - Sams listed only the original ET designation.

Prefixes:

EU - Utica
ET - Utica ?
ES - Syracuse
EP - Portsmouth (last GE production in US)
EA - Audio products
EW - Offshore (HK, Taiwan, Korea)

ET and EU preceded ES, and all preceded EP. REAL confusing....

Cheers,

tvcollector 10-22-2014 09:03 PM

Ouch.. Thanks for the info.. Anyone know the flyback part number or substitutes for this? I'm going to look for a spare to have on hand.. Thanks..

Findm-Keepm 10-23-2014 12:44 PM

Sams lists the part number as an ET77X79, with a Triad D-304 as a replacement. Same flyback as a CTC-15, Fly-277/RCA 113382 are the same. That's the nice thing about this set - it's an RCA clone, and the sweep stuff is the same - vert tranny, focus coil, all the same. Downside is the growing rarity of NOS parts, especially flybacks. I just sold my last CTC-15 fly to Kamakiri - Tim needed it for a set.

Cheers,

tvcollector 10-23-2014 09:56 PM

Thanks for all the info.. I guess flybacks for roundie sets are harder to come by than roundie tubes..

tvcollector 10-24-2014 12:58 PM

I found a place that had 3 in stock.. If you put in Thordarson FLY277 into google, it will be the first result from http://www.electronicsurplus.com.. They removed the order page, they had three NOS ones for $25 each and I bought all three..

Tom S 10-25-2014 06:52 AM

GE did have some bastard chassis. I worked for a shop that handled GE in the later years. My folks had a 1969 GE KE chassis. Great picture and fairly reliable too. I have RCA's now and a GE porta color as well. Along with a 67 Motorola

dieseljeep 10-25-2014 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom S (Post 3117938)
GE did have some bastard chassis. I worked for a shop that handled GE in the later years. My folks had a 1969 GE KE chassis. Great picture and fairly reliable too. I have RCA's now and a GE porta color as well. Along with a 67 Motorola

When I was buying and selling used sets, some 40+ years ago, I didn't sell many GE's. They weren't that big of a seller around here and wouldn't bring top dollar. There were GE plants here and many of the employees didn't even buy them. :sigh:

DaveWM 10-25-2014 10:44 AM

I got one locally, think it was 10$, only one I have come across in the wild. Make ok pic.

Tom S 10-25-2014 12:00 PM

GE Tv
 
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Here is a pic of my folks GE from 1969. I should have kept it. DammAttachment 184687

Old Moto Nut 10-25-2014 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3117943)
When I was buying and selling used sets, some 40+ years ago, I didn't sell many GE's. They weren't that big of a seller around here and wouldn't bring top dollar. There were GE plants here and many of the employees didn't even buy them. :sigh:

I think you're exaggerating. I never saw or heard of that much trouble with GE sets. I'm not saying they were the best, but they were far from the worst. And, to imply that GE employees didn't buy them because they thought they were bad is just not believable. Big GE consoles didn't sell that great to begin with because RCA and Zenith always had the market cornered. And when you were dealing with used consoles was a time when everybody wanted smaller sets, so they were even harder to sell.

dieseljeep 10-25-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Moto Nut (Post 3117969)
I think you're exaggerating. I never saw or heard of that much trouble with GE sets. I'm not saying they were the best, but they were far from the worst. And, to imply that GE employees didn't buy them because they thought they were bad is just not believable. Big GE consoles didn't sell that great to begin with because RCA and Zenith always had the market cornered. And when you were dealing with used consoles was a time when everybody wanted smaller sets, so they were even harder to sell.

This was in Milwaukee. There was a Hotpoint and several GE Medical Systems, plants scattered around the area.

Old Moto Nut 10-25-2014 06:03 PM

I still think you're full of it. I knew and know a lot of men and women that worked at Appliance Park in Louisville and never heard any of them complain about a GE set. Knew some that worked in Decatur, IL too and same thing.

Tom S 10-25-2014 08:15 PM

I will say some of the early solid state sets were a pain QA JA MA MB and so forth. But in general I had a YM chassis in a counsel set. Wide band amp failed and flyback with horiz out transistor. Had the set from 80 to 87. Hell my Sylvania I got in 87 crapped the crt after 5 yrs. And I mean bad too. The GE was a great set.

Bill R 10-25-2014 08:16 PM

I didn't see that many GE sets for repair, but the ones I did were always, always dogs. There was a reason RCA and Zenith had the market cornered in Memphis. They simply had better pictures and were preceived to be more reliable. I think every manufacturer had their share of bad designs.

Tom S 10-25-2014 08:20 PM

How bout the RCA HV cup failures. Bang bang bang. for one. Zenith solid state upright chassis cap failure. Chews the neck off the crt. LOL


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