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fsjonsey 05-01-2015 04:52 AM

Trashbound Zenith Roundie
 
In a spot of pure luck, I had to drive a friend back to Hiram College last night. The return trip took me through Burton, Ohio which just happened to be having it's annual Bulk Trash Pickup. I spotted a console, but I was driving my Corvair, and decided to drive back to Mentor, OH and get my Subaru Outback and a couple of friends to help lift.

We got it home at 11PM EST.
http://i.imgur.com/E1vJG0Bl.jpg

I pulled the back off a few minutes later.
http://i.imgur.com/BLSUqksl.jpg
DAMNIT.
Whoever put it on the lawn necked it today. The getter on the neck hasn't gone totally white yet.
The chassis is dusty, yet fully functional; full HV, It's even pulling a UHF translator from Ontario after I pulled the HOT just to test the rest of the chassis.
Of course, the tube has no Cataract.

zeno 05-01-2015 07:49 AM

Too bad about the jug. Even the dust looks original !

BTW last time I drove my 'vair was 1971 IIRC.
Twas a 65 Monza. Damn good car. Also had a '63 Spider
for a short time.

73 Zeno:smoke:

Electronic M 05-01-2015 11:49 AM

Is the getter getting worse? It could have a use worn getter and still be under vacuum/usable.

fsjonsey 05-01-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3132775)
Is the getter getting worse? It could have a use worn getter and still be under vacuum/usable.

Sorry, that wasn't a good photo. The neck is shattered in about six pieces, and only the gun and socket are holding it on.
Anyone have a spare 21FJP22?

DaveWM 05-01-2015 03:12 PM

IIRC good ones can be gotten all day long for 100$
found it, Tom aka Electronic M in Wisconsin. Maybe he can hook you up. 100$ for a good 21FJP22 is a good deal.

DaveWM 05-01-2015 03:54 PM

that brings back bad memories of the CTC-5 I got a while back. perfect looking 21AXP22 but for the smashed neck... ugh.

stromberg67 05-01-2015 05:27 PM

Great save, IMO. Even though the CRT is toast, the fact that the set is not in the dump is golden. Thanks for your effort!!! :yes:
Kevin

Jon A. 05-01-2015 07:18 PM

Agreed. That type of CRT is much more common than the set.

Nice color too, I have been debating on getting my Admiral refinished in something similar.

Tubejunke 05-01-2015 11:39 PM

Hey there! Indeed a stroke of luck on what isn't very common these days. That is finding a vintage TV of that era or older sitting on a curb isn't common, but they are all around and certainly have not all met their fate. I have wandered into abandoned homes and seen sets like that still in place. One in a living room of a very small home that was overgrown with trees to the point of barely being visible and only a few yards from the road. Another was upstairs in an old "farm house" and just evidently just too heavy to warrant lugging down the often narrow staircases found in such homes. It was the only piece of furniture in the house.

When I stumble across such things, naturally the thought of grabbing it (or the tubes) crosses my mind knowing that most likely it will end up in a dump or the house burned down by the fire department. Such was the first case I mention. Either way, the stuff doesn't belong to me, so I can't be the one who determines if anyone cares or is even alive that did care. I'm talking places with the floors falling in! Point really was that they are and most likely for some time to come will surface, but not commonly as only a decade ago or so.

I don't know what your thoughts are, or other restriction(s) may be as far as trying to get a C.R.T. and perhaps caps and other tubes that may be needed to get that set going. It's a Zenith, so it may just need the tube and that's it! But if by chance you don't go for the restore/repair and none of us here at VK can take it off you hands; you may opt to part the set. Certainly I think it's better to save one, but it's not always possible. If it gets parted, please let us all know as there are several of us here with Zeniths similar as that.

What I need is the little control knob cover on the lower right. I have one, but it's a bit hammered. Looks like kid damage as the rest of my set is in great shape. I would love to have a spare flyback transformer as well. Most of us would, but as Zenith owners we are very lucky to NOT have flyback disposal units for TV sets. Nothing lasts forever though and what you found is heralded for build quality and durability. So I hope some kind person within driving distance of you will make you a deal on a C.R.T. Even a well used tube would be OK really to get it going for occasional use.

Good luck with this!

zenithfan1 05-01-2015 11:40 PM

Great score! Sucks they broke the crt. Its well worth another one though. I hope you find one soon.

tvcollector 05-02-2015 03:03 AM

I love the fact the the cabinet looks like a late 50s early 60s RCA.. Never seen something like this for Zenith.. Sucks about the CRT.. I know how that feels, especially when I spent $$$ on my first roundie to see see in person for the first time to have a very dead CRT..

MIPS 05-02-2015 06:33 AM

From your photo what I can see of the back cover is intact so how did he manage to neck it?

timmy 05-02-2015 12:55 PM

if the back was on and the center plastic protector was intact, its simple whoever owned it knew it worked and probably knew the crt was worth money so why not pull the back out alittle and smack the neck with a tire iron and now no one gets a free deal since they could not be bothered putting it on craigslist or even ebay. may whoever did this will have there flat screen junk take a dump.

Jon A. 05-02-2015 04:04 PM

I suppose the back is flexible enough for the neck to have been crushed if the set fell over backwards at some point. Whenever I move my consoles I'm extremely careful not to bump the CRT neck covers.

fsjonsey 05-02-2015 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MIPS (Post 3132815)
From your photo what I can see of the back cover is intact so how did he manage to neck it?

The Neck cap looked perfect, that's why I was so surprised to see that the tube was necked. Then I looked closer and notice that the top screw that held the cap onto the back had pulled through the Masonite.The set must of been laid on its back and the weight did the rest.

Just to assure everyone, I have managed to secure a CRT for this set, and it will be saved.

zenithfan1 05-02-2015 05:52 PM

Awesome!

bgadow 05-02-2015 09:57 PM

I had that same model, it got traded around and another Vk'er has it now...it was probably the best sounding TV I've had. Sometimes wish I kept that one. It's worth hunting a crt for this.

Findm-Keepm 05-02-2015 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fsjonsey (Post 3132841)
:

Just to assure everyone, I have managed to secure a CRT for this set, and it will be saved.

:jawdrop: I am definitely in the wrong part of the country. Can't find squat around here. I think the only roundies within 100 miles from here are my one, and Nicks (dozen?).

My 21FJP22 has a weak red gun, and the ubiquitous cataract. Cataract removal via DaveM's method is in it's future for sure. When to find the time.....

GREAT SCORE - looking forward to some beautiful screen shots...

Cheers,

fsjonsey 07-08-2015 02:45 AM

I know this is an old thread, but a few people mentioned my Corvair. Thought I'd post a pic or two.
http://i.imgur.com/7C8iesvl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TgnXAjCl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UMYXcpal.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SivVBNSl.jpg

Username1 07-08-2015 04:21 AM

Beautiful, but is that white one a Corvair too ?? Very nice paint job too ! !

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fsjonsey 07-08-2015 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Username1 (Post 3137780)
Beautiful, but is that white one a Corvair too ?? Very nice paint job too ! !

.

The white one is my former daily driver. Same car, pretty much, both are 1962 Monza 4 Door Sedans. I sold it to a friend this spring to get him into the Corvair hobby. The white car had some serious Ohio rust issues, that the new owner is more than happy to deal with.

DavGoodlin 07-08-2015 11:04 AM

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Thanks for being so diligent to save that set. If I ever saw a roundie out for the trash, I would take drastic steps to get it to safety like you did!

I also feel your pain on that CRT. Last month, I had the near-new RCA 21FBP22 "hi-lite" in my '65 metal Zenith neck itself with no help from me or excessive HV.

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I sealed it up per Steve McVoy for a trip to ETF for a "rebuild". I guess my Zenith hated having an RCA replacement:tears:

Tubejunke 07-10-2015 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DavGoodlin (Post 3137790)
Last month, I had the near-new RCA 21FBP22 "hi-lite" in my '65 metal Zenith neck itself with no help from me or excessive HV.

WOW! Dave, I hate to hear that about my set's twin! I have never heard of any crt necking for no reason at all! Actually, I have found large tubes to be more substantial than crts in general are given credit for.

If that ever happened around here I would suspect other dwellers of my home to have a silent hand in it. My woman has said more than once that if she were to break my Zenith tube that she would just leave before I could find it and go ballistic. I don't know where she dreamed up that scenario. Heck, shes the red head; not me! LOL

Steve D. 07-10-2015 11:52 AM

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Super save and having found a 21FJ has to be very satisfying. I brightened up your original photo a bit. Looking forward to the post restoration screen shots.

-Steve D.

reeferman 07-11-2015 12:41 AM

Look at it this way..
You had a short road trip with friends.

sampson159 07-17-2015 09:34 AM

i had this same set i got from ampico kid in a trade.the crt went soft and he restored it with a beltron.it lasted about a year and lost the red.i juiced it a few times but didnt last more than a couple weeks.sold it to another aker.wish i hadnt.got a nib 21 rca,sylavania rebuild and a vdc crts just waiting for sets.

dieseljeep 07-17-2015 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve D. (Post 3137981)
Super save and having found a 21FJ has to be very satisfying. I brightened up your original photo a bit. Looking forward to the post restoration screen shots.

-Steve D.

It was bad enough that the CRT got necked but it didn't even have cataract issues. :tears:


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