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decojoe67 01-10-2019 05:03 PM

1939 Meissner TV on eBay!
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-194...UAAOSw3T5cN7Ud
The seller seems to be oblivious to how rare a set he has there. These just do bot turn-up in any condition. Where's Steve on this one?! It should go to his museum. So worth the effort to get it restored. Extremely rare historic piece.

Electronic M 01-10-2019 06:27 PM

Well, now it is sure to get bid up...

decojoe67 01-10-2019 07:33 PM

Well, the auction has been cancelled. I would suspect someone worked a deal. The set was worth many thousands of dollars.

dieseljeep 01-10-2019 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3207355)
Well, now it is sure to get bid up...

No one bid on it!
Maybe, I'll get relisted. :scratch2:

tvdude1 01-10-2019 07:42 PM

I bet the pool table dude got it from Florida

Kevin Kuehn 01-10-2019 08:17 PM

Too bad there were no pictures of the chassis.

decojoe67 01-10-2019 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3207362)
Too bad there were no pictures of the chassis.

Yes, but it goes to show that the seller was totally oblivious as to what he had. I'd bet that chassis was complete.

I would be very surprised if the set comes back on eBay. I suspect the seller and some savvy buyer both have big grins about now!

Kevin Kuehn 01-10-2019 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by decojoe67 (Post 3207365)
Yes, but it goes to show that the seller was totally oblivious as to what he had. I'd bet that chassis was complete.

I would be very surprised if the set comes back on eBay. I suspect the seller and some savvy buyer both have big grins about now!

I suspect that you're right! Very good odds that the next time we see it, it will be dressed in a field of green. :D

WISCOJIM 01-10-2019 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3207360)
No one bid on it!
Maybe, I'll get relisted. :scratch2:

There were bids. He canceled them to end the auction.

.

decojoe67 01-11-2019 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WISCOJIM (Post 3207370)
There were bids. He canceled them to end the auction.

.

I stand corrected. It's back up on eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-193...UAAOSw3T5cN7Ud

Kevin Kuehn 01-11-2019 09:17 AM

I guess it started at 99 cents this time. What a pleasant surprise.

Jon A. 01-12-2019 04:10 AM

It all comes down to greed with stuff like this. I can't imagine anyone wanting it for reasons not tinted with green.

Rusty34 01-12-2019 08:09 AM

I'd say someone wised him up so he cancelled and relisted it with model name and more info. The description now also says the auction will run to the end. Sounds like he might have been tipped off after receiving several offers to sell off site. The guys over at ARF have been all over it in a couple of different threads there too.

fixmeplease 01-12-2019 09:02 AM

Im no expert but it looks all original to me, the electrical part.

There are honest buyers who give honest offers on ebay and then there are those that send lowball offers right after you list something trying to get a bargain. Ive been a seller for years and have seen both many, many, times.

I learned quickly to never end an auction as it isnt fair to the honest buyers and to hell with the dishonest ones.

My hat is off to this seller even if he knew what he had. No crazy frilly listing, just the basic facts with pictures.

Kevin Kuehn 01-12-2019 11:31 AM

Chassis layout is a work of art. Components nice and neat at right angles.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hZEAA...hg/s-l1600.jpg

Kevin Kuehn 01-12-2019 12:18 PM

Kind of ironic that this sold yesterday.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-MEISSNE...p2047675.l2557

vts1134 01-12-2019 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3207420)
Kind of ironic that this sold yesterday.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-MEISSNE...p2047675.l2557

Yeah....ain't it!!!

dbc58 01-12-2019 08:43 PM

Over $1500

Phil 01-15-2019 06:38 PM

I've thought seriously about bidding on this one, but can't imagine what use it would be other than as a shelf queen, which is of no interest to me. How would one go about generating a signal to the old standard? (Apparently the horizontal scan freq. Was 13,200 hz or something it that area.

dieseljeep 01-15-2019 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 3207553)
I've thought seriously about bidding on this one, but can't imagine what use it would be other than as a shelf queen, which is of no interest to me. How would one go about generating a signal to the old standard? (Apparently the horizontal scan freq. Was 13,200 hz or something it that area.

The buyer is probably planning to use an Aurora standards converter to use it!
They're using those in Britain to run the 405 line sets that were used well into the 60's. I understand that it can emulate just about every standard ever used.
In this country some collectors are using pre-war RCA's converted to the post-war standards. :scratch2:

dtvmcdonald 01-15-2019 08:52 PM

Its an electrostatic deflection set. It will "just work" with a modern signal.

Penthode 01-16-2019 11:37 PM

US 1939 television was 441 line. The switch to 525 by 1941 did not require radical changes to the horizontal scan frequency to work. 1939 RCA televisions designed for 441 line worked on 525 just fine with no modification to the horizontal scan circuitry.

Gleb 01-17-2019 01:38 AM

And what about the frequency gap between audio and video subcarriers?

Electronic M 01-17-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gleb (Post 3207586)
And what about the frequency gap between audio and video subcarriers?

Most RCA sets could with sound IF adjustment tune the new FM sound with their AM sound detectors acting as FM slope detectors.

Odds are.the meisner would be capable too.

Part of.me is tempted to bid on the meisner... though it could easily drift out of my savings, and if I did paying off the principle of a student loan and the ETF meet would probably end up in direct competition for funding....

Kevin Kuehn 01-17-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3207590)
Part of.me is tempted to bid on the meisner... though it could easily drift out of my savings, and if I did paying off the principle of a student loan and the ETF meet would probably end up in direct competition for funding....

My advise is pay off your school loan. You're young enough to get a real bargain on many of these sets the second time around. I'd be very surprised if they go up in value as the current collector base dwindles. More than likely the same scenario that's happening now to early radio collections. Your bigger concern will be having enough storage space to house them all. :)

Penthode 01-17-2019 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gleb (Post 3207586)
And what about the frequency gap between audio and video subcarriers?

The spacing remained the same at 4.5 MHz. The difference however was a switch in modulation between AM to FM. Rather than modify the circuit to include a discrimator, they used the existing AM envelope detecto to "slope" demodulate the FM. Not very linear but it worked.

bandersen 01-18-2019 06:36 AM

Sold for $5,276.56!

oldtvnut 02-25-2019 05:42 PM

Some sure got greedy in a big hurry...must be nice. I wouldn't do that to anyone[ I was brought up better than that!:nono:


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