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LADR 08-04-2019 05:55 AM

Zenith roundie
 
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Ran across this set the other day on Facebag marketplace. I didn’t hesitate paying the $25 for it on the spot, now I just need to go pick it up, probably in less than a week or so. I’ll have more info and photos when I get it. As far as I can tell, it’s in great shape and it’s in a cabinet I really like. The seller didn’t try powering it up, but it probably at least somewhat works being a Zenith and all.

Electronic M 08-04-2019 09:08 AM

Probably a 29KC20. If it has 3DG4 rectifier tubes than it is a 29JC20 Zeniths first consumer set. Very good sets when working properly.

kvflyer 08-04-2019 01:55 PM

Good on 'ya, Mate!

AlanInSitges 08-06-2019 04:02 PM

Gorgeous! And you're right: being a Zenith of that era you'll probably need to clean the tuner and then start watching it.

Electronic M 08-06-2019 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanInSitges (Post 3213444)
Gorgeous! And you're right: being a Zenith of that era you'll probably need to clean the tuner and then start watching it.

These are old enough that you need to change the lytics if you plan to run it regularly....on my 29JC20 it sort of worked as found. I ended up changing the bumblebee caps and the lytics sections that tested leaky and ran it daily for a year or two...as I ran it more sections of lytics failed...in some cases taking out resistors as they died.:thumbsdn:.

They are good sets (the color quality is up there with the best), but the caps can be time bombs if you leave them.

John Marinello 08-11-2019 09:54 AM

Probably sold it cheap because the picture was sideways... :D

LADR 09-02-2019 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3213448)
These are old enough that you need to change the lytics if you plan to run it regularly....on my 29JC20 it sort of worked as found. I ended up changing the bumblebee caps and the lytics sections that tested leaky and ran it daily for a year or two...as I ran it more sections of lytics failed...in some cases taking out resistors as they died.:thumbsdn:.

They are good sets (the color quality is up there with the best), but the caps can be time bombs if you leave them.

I’ll be replacing the caps toot sweet.

tom franco 09-07-2019 05:37 AM

Nice zenith well built

freakaftr8 09-07-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by John Marinello (Post 3213565)
Probably sold it cheap because the picture was sideways... :D

Omg I just got that... Haha!!

Nice set! How's the CRT check out?

LADR 09-08-2019 07:50 AM

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Finally got the set. Has 95% of its original tubes. The CRT was low but woke up after cooking for 20 minutes. Has a raster with snow. The audio is a very loud buzz. The fine tuning doesn’t work and that’s because the plastic gear that turns the screw thing thats on the contacts in the tuner is cracked. I took it off to glue it, but being me, I lost it. Do any of you know how I can get a replacement?

Sandy G 09-08-2019 09:28 AM

One of these days, HOPEFULLY B4 I check out, I HOPE to go to that Majickal place where Things Go When They Get Lost.. My FORTUNE will have been Made... I will find things I've pondered & wondered over for YEARS, along w/stuff I've long since forgotten about..

Sandy G 09-08-2019 09:31 AM

...MAYBE, just Maybe, I'll get re-united w/my long lost KV-7010U, my Feeble Mind, a few other things..

Electronic M 09-08-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 3214711)
One of these days, HOPEFULLY B4 I check out, I HOPE to go to that Majickal place where Things Go When They Get Lost.. My FORTUNE will have been Made... I will find things I've pondered & wondered over for YEARS, along w/stuff I've long since forgotten about..

I'd imagine all a us that have been decent people end up in the place all the cool lectronics that are no longer in the world end up after we've checked out..... It'd probably get to be a bit like hell if there wasn't junk for us to play with...

zeno 09-08-2019 03:10 PM

I hope for a nice bench & lots of OEM parts. A 2 week backlog unless you bought it from us. I will teach my squaw how to do dial cords & mechanical
things & we will work together.

BTW I thew away some of those gears back abt 2010. All new in Zenith pkgs.
Who a thunk ? Looks like its the diaper pin style. Easy to find used. For now
you can set them with a small screwdriver. The grey scale looks great so I thinks you gotta winner.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3214713)
I'd imagine all a us that have been decent people end up in the place all the cool lectronics that are no longer in the world end up after we've checked out..... It'd probably get to be a bit like hell if there wasn't junk for us to play with...


reeferman 09-08-2019 05:25 PM

The fine tuning doesn’t work and that’s because the plastic gear that turns the screw thing thats on the contacts in the tuner is cracked. I took it off to glue it, but being me, I lost it. Do any of you know how I can get a replacement?[/QUOTE]

I think I might have one. Give me a few days, send me a PM.
Phil

old_coot88 09-08-2019 06:34 PM

You can re-use that gear if it's split. Just degrease it and the shaft thoroughly, and epoxy back on. Done many, never had one fail. The teeth still engage just fine despite the irregularity where the split is.

LADR 09-22-2019 10:56 AM

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After reflowing the solder in the focus pin at the CRt, I now have nice stable focus. Tint range is pretty awful, and red seems to be too strong even though the screens are set correctly. CRt is pretty tired but very much watchable in a dark room. Still has this very loud buzz in the audio, and I can’t figure it out.

Robert Grant 09-22-2019 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LADR (Post 3215201)
After reflowing the solder in the focus pin at the CRt, I now have nice stable focus. Tint range is pretty awful, and red seems to be too strong even though the screens are set correctly. CRt is pretty tired but very much watchable in a dark room. Still has this very loud buzz in the audio, and I can’t figure it out.

The strong buzz is Zenith's trademark sound identifying the set as a Zenith.

As for the tuner, just adjust the channel 3 tuning slug, since you'll always be using the set on channel 3 and changing the program using an external source (converter box, DVD, VCR, Roku, lo que sea).

LADR 09-22-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Grant (Post 3215205)
The strong buzz is Zenith's trademark sound identifying the set as a Zenith.

As for the tuner, just adjust the channel 3 tuning slug, since you'll always be using the set on channel 3 and changing the program using an external source (converter box, DVD, VCR, Roku, lo que sea).

I know the buzz your thinking of, and it’s definitely not that. Something is really wrong in the audio section. I didn’t mention, messing with the vertical hold effects the buzz. I already adjusted the FT with the tuning slug. I’ll probably end up using my UHF modulator, if I can’t find a replacement for the plastic gear.

Electronic M 09-22-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Grant (Post 3215205)
The strong buzz is Zenith's trademark sound identifying the set as a Zenith.

As for the tuner, just adjust the channel 3 tuning slug, since you'll always be using the set on channel 3 and changing the program using an external source (converter box, DVD, VCR, Roku, lo que sea).

If the modulator is putting out a correct signal, the IF/sound IF alignment is correct, there are no significant circuit issues and the buzz control is set correctly Zeniths are capable of excellent buzz-free audio.

One sei I have where the buzz control doesn't completely kill the issue I've found that on a tube RF modulator I have that has adjustable Audio carrier freq I can adjust that modulator to make good audio on the set (I may adjust its audio alignment in the future).

If the vertical buzz is in the speaker check the filtering, if it is there with the speaker disconnected then the vertical may have issues...Though some vertical systems just like to buzz more than others.

LADR 09-25-2019 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3215208)
If the vertical buzz is in the speaker check the filtering, if it is there with the speaker disconnected then the vertical may have issues...Though some vertical systems just like to buzz more than others.

It’s not there when the speaker is disconnected. I’ve ordered replacements for the filters and that should (hopefully) fix it.

zeno 09-26-2019 09:26 AM

For the buzz try the AGC adj & buzz control. Next change the
detector tube. If still buzzes you can adj the detector AKA
quad coil. Dont go more than 1/2 turn & flag your stick so you
can go back where it was. If no joy check around the det.
Never had a component failure so no help there. A few sets went
out with just a light buzz on heavily white scenes. Newer content
& lack of OTA make make this a bit of a compromise.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !


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