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Yamamaya42 12-30-2021 12:51 AM

Another roundie found local, truetone.
 
no info yet, unknown make (RCA clone?), still waiting to hear back from owner.
https://i.imgur.com/AX7n1id.png

Electronic M 12-30-2021 12:27 PM

I remember seeing one of those on Facebook recently. It most likely is an RCA clone (most of the store brand roundys we're RCA clones) if it isn't that is almost as rare a Truetone color TV.

AlanInSitges 12-30-2021 12:32 PM

Shango has one of these, pretty sure I remember it was a CTC15 clone.

Tube TV 12-30-2021 12:38 PM

I'm admiring your luck at finding these sets. 20 years ago I couldn't find color roundies local. I had ads in the newspaper and bulletin boards in the malls and I'd get calls by someone with their "seemingly" vintage TV just to find out it was another particle board console from 1984.

I think Truetone was sold be Western Auto Supply IIRC.

On their black and white portables around that time they seemed to have used a lot of manufacturers. I've seen rebadged Admirals, then some Japanese made. Some have some pretty rare cabinets you don't see outside of Truetone.

Electronic M 12-30-2021 05:56 PM

2 Attachment(s)
So I happen to have a duplicate copy of the Sam's. Sure looks like a clone.
Once you get yours if it is the same chassis as my Sam's covers I'll let you have the Sam's for the cost of shipping (I doubt I'll ever own one of those to need 2 copies).

John Adams 12-30-2021 10:00 PM

Probably built by Wells Gardner.

ARC Tech-109 12-30-2021 11:18 PM

Detrola was a Western Auto brand for the radio side, I always thought Trutone was a Wards name

Tube TV 12-30-2021 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARC Tech-109 (Post 3238525)
Detrola was a Western Auto brand for the radio side, I always thought Trutone was a Wards name

Airline was Wards.

Yamamaya42 12-30-2021 11:44 PM

Still Waiting to hear back, I really hope to get it, even if it's a dud, I will be my 3rd color roundie!

Electronic M 12-31-2021 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARC Tech-109 (Post 3238525)
Detrola was a Western Auto brand for the radio side, I always thought Trutone was a Wards name

Never heard of Detrola badged sets being sold by Western Auto. WA's house brand was always Truetone. I've had a number of Truetone radios and they were always listed under Western Auto in Riders perpetual troubleshooters...IIRC Truetone radios always had a reference to Western Auto in the internal labels.
IIRC Detrola built some store brand sets so it's possible some Truetone radios were Detrola built.
From what I've read Detrola never built TVs. There were a couple of Wilcox/Majestic sets that got rebadged Detrola but never a Detrola built TV.

And I second that Montgomery Wards house brand was Airline....I've owned Airline radios and TVs.

kf4rca 12-31-2021 07:47 AM

No cataract that I could see. like many of the color roundies. So its been stored well.
Truetone was Western Auto. Western Auto, like Sears, did their own financing for their products. Color TV was very expen$ive for the average American at the time.
Sears sold everything including cars and pre-fab homes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_Modern_Homes

jr_tech 12-31-2021 12:44 PM

Electronic M said:
“IIRC Detrola built some store brand sets so it's possible some Truetone radios were Detrola built”

That seems to be the case: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detr...on_Corporation

jr

Electronic M 12-31-2021 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kf4rca (Post 3238530)
No cataract that I could see. like many of the color roundies. So its been stored well.
Truetone was Western Auto. Western Auto, like Sears, did their own financing for their products. Color TV was very expen$ive for the average American at the time.
Sears sold everything including cars and pre-fab homes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_Modern_Homes

Odds are it has a 21FBP22 or GUP22. The 21FBP22 doesn't have any glue holding the safety glass on. Instead there's a rubber gasket around the edge of the safety glass and the mounting bracket holds the safety glass to the face mechanically. The older FBP tubes usually weren't frosted and were reflective like the one in this set.

It's pretty rare for even well taken care of 21FJP22s to not have some visible cataract these days.

AlanInSitges 01-01-2022 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3238529)
Never heard of Detrola badged sets being sold by Western Auto. WA's house brand was always Truetone. I've had a number of Truetone radios and they were always listed under Western Auto in Riders perpetual troubleshooters...IIRC Truetone radios always had a reference to Western Auto in the internal labels.
IIRC Detrola built some store brand sets so it's possible some Truetone radios were Detrola built.

I remember as a kid in probably Jr. High wandering into the Western Auto store in town on the way home from school and seeing some stereos on display; one had a TRUETONE logo that was crooked and was clearly just a sticker that had been slapped on the front. Of course I peeled it off, revealing that it was actually a SOUNDESIGN POS. After that I realized they probably knew it was me who revealed the secret behind the TRUETONE brand and was a too scared to ever go back in the store.

Tom9589 01-02-2022 03:56 PM

KF4RCA, your reference to Sears pre-fabricated houses reminded me of my brother-in-law who worked as a "sledger" during summers in high school for a construction company building pre-fab houses. They would put up three wall panels to a room. Then they would put up the last wall panel. If it didn't fit, the sledgers were called in to persuade the fourth corner to come together.

Yamamaya42 01-03-2022 06:16 PM

Still no reply :(
granted it's only been since the 30th, and one never knows with FB marketplace, and I still see it out there, but I would have thought they would have said something back by now. :tears:

Tube TV 01-04-2022 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanInSitges (Post 3238542)
I remember as a kid in probably Jr. High wandering into the Western Auto store in town on the way home from school and seeing some stereos on display; one had a TRUETONE logo that was crooked and was clearly just a sticker that had been slapped on the front. Of course I peeled it off, revealing that it was actually a SOUNDESIGN POS. After that I realized they probably knew it was me who revealed the secret behind the TRUETONE brand and was a too scared to ever go back in the store.

I remember some of those soundesign console stereos. Damn they were lousy. 5 watts a channel, 6 or 8" woofer and a 3" tweeter, BSR turntable, 8 track, and a reciever with such a weak amp that a table radio could keep up in performance.

"Simulated woodgrain" sawdustboard cabinet. The wood detailing was hard foam that was blown into molds and painted brown with little black flick and smudges to try to hide to fact that the speaker grill and all the detailing was foam.

Circuit board screwed right to the sawdust board, and a little transformer sitting in the bottom of the cabinet. Powering everything but the turntable motor.

kf4rca 01-04-2022 07:31 AM

I hope you get it Yamamaya. Sometimes, in a household, the wife will do something else from what her husband was planning. So, it maybe sitting on the roadside by now!
Every so often, I ask the junk hauling services about old TV's. Some of that stuff they take to thrift stores, and the rest goes to the dump.
I explain to them that, often, old TV's are worth money. You should see what they're going for on Ebay.
And I tell them anything made in America is collectable, because they don't make stuff in America any more.

Yamamaya42 01-08-2022 12:14 AM

well, this person never did reply to me, and now the TV is listed as "sold"

rather rude of the person not to even reply, i think.

Electronic M 01-08-2022 12:37 AM

Always sucks when you get ghosted by buyers or sellers....

kf4rca 01-08-2022 08:35 AM

You should email them and tell them what a low class piece of excrement they are, and that you got a message from God and he said they are going to Hell.
And they are an embarassment to the human race, and they are the MEANEST person that you have ever known.
You have nothing to lose at this point.

Tim Tress 03-25-2022 05:16 PM

Detrola made many radios which were sold under the Truetone brand. However, they went out of business around 1948.

consoleguy67 03-26-2022 07:28 AM

That sucks! Maybe you'll find one even better.

vortalexfan 03-26-2022 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom9589 (Post 3238562)
KF4RCA, your reference to Sears pre-fabricated houses reminded me of my brother-in-law who worked as a "sledger" during summers in high school for a construction company building pre-fab houses. They would put up three wall panels to a room. Then they would put up the last wall panel. If it didn't fit, the sledgers were called in to persuade the fourth corner to come together.

My uncle owns an old Sears-Roebuck kit house from the 1910s in Culver, Indiana that he had restored himself, its a large 2-story 4-Square style home.

vortalexfan 03-26-2022 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamamaya42 (Post 3238660)
well, this person never did reply to me, and now the TV is listed as "sold"

rather rude of the person not to even reply, i think.

I have had that happen to me as well unfortunately, and on some really cool stuff as well which is the crappy part.

I once tried to get an old 1930s Zenith Radio and the person never replied and about one or two days after I had messaged the person the radio said "sold" on it but the person never messaged me to ask me if I was still interested or where I wanted to meet them (the radio was available locally.) :sigh: :thumbsdn:

KentTeffeteller 05-15-2022 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tube TV (Post 3238581)
I remember some of those soundesign console stereos. Damn they were lousy. 5 watts a channel, 6 or 8" woofer and a 3" tweeter, BSR turntable, 8 track, and a reciever with such a weak amp that a table radio could keep up in performance.

"Simulated woodgrain" sawdustboard cabinet. The wood detailing was hard foam that was blown into molds and painted brown with little black flick and smudges to try to hide to fact that the speaker grill and all the detailing was foam.

Circuit board screwed right to the sawdust board, and a little transformer sitting in the bottom of the cabinet. Powering everything but the turntable motor.

Those are what is referred to as "Jimmy Swaggart" consoles. Usually when original owner or family dies off, you find Jimmy Swaggart, or private label vanity Gospel records and tapes inside said console or Christmas records. RadioTVPhonoNut says it well. Cheap mother of particle board junk.

Jeffhs 05-16-2022 12:53 AM

I had a Zenith 4-mode integrated stereo system in the 1980s, their model IS-4041. Five watts per channel, AM/FM/stereo FM radio, BSR record changer, cassette deck, and 8-track. It all worked very well for me (and sounded great, despite the low audio output power) the 17 years I owned it; typical Zenith.

I didn't replace it until I moved to an apartment in 1999 (long story and OT), the replacement being an Aiwa CX-NA888 AM/FM/stereo FM/cassette/CD bookshelf system. That is my current stereo system and, despite the cassette decks having failed for good a few years ago (after I had them repaired twice), is still working as well as when it was new. I actually like that system better than the Zenith because the Aiwa system has four amplifiers, 50 watts per channel, for a total of 200 watts; however, I do not use two of those amplifiers since they are meant to be used with two additional surround speakers, which I have no room for (my apartment is very small) and don't think I could find anymore, even if I had the room for them. The loss of the cassette decks doesn't bother me either, since I can find most of the music I had on cassette on CD (I have been replacing cassettes with CDs for years now) which sound better than cassettes ever did (IMHO) anyway. The Aiwa stereo system has an excellent CD changer which sounds incredibly good through the system's own amplifiers, in my opinion (I don't dare play it full-blast in an apartment, for obvious reasons; just as well, I guess, since at my age I don't care for very loud music anymore).


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