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oldtvman 04-07-2005 09:35 PM

the purple banana
 
have any of you heard the story of how someone painted the banana used in one of the still life models for color tv purple? I bet some of those engineers were pulling their hair out!

Chad Hauris 04-08-2005 06:17 AM

You can post it to the TV section of the photo gallery, there is no size limit.

Telecolor 3007 04-08-2005 04:04 PM

And how I can put a pic there? Send me the exactky indicasions.

Chad Hauris 04-08-2005 04:11 PM

Just go to the members Gallery, TV section, and go to "upload photos", there will be a menu there that will allow you to upload photos directly from a directory on your computer up to the Audiokarma server.

Steve D. 04-08-2005 05:38 PM

Color wars
 
I believe the "blue banana" prank occured during the 1949/50 RCA/CBS/ FCC color tv demos. RCA head David Sarnoff had put extreme deadline pressure on his engineers to complete the tri-color shadow mask picture tube. This was to be the heart of RCA's compatible color system, in competition with CBS's field sequential (color wheel) system. Seems a couple of the RCA techs decided to blow off steam by painting a banana blue and placing it in the middle of a basket of fruit. Red apples, green grapes, some oranges and the blue banana. The joke backfired and Sarnoff, needless to say, was not amused.


-Steve D.

Telecolor 3007 04-09-2005 04:52 AM

Belive it or not, but I don't see where that "upload photo" is.

bolly 04-09-2005 05:15 AM

try this Telecolor
 
click AudioKarma Discussion Forums, click Members Photo Gallery, click Horizontal Hold, in the upper right there should be, Upload Photos. :yes:

Steve D. 04-09-2005 11:17 AM

Maybe I missed something?
 
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Originally Posted by bolly
click AudioKarma Discussion Forums, click Members Photo Gallery, click Horizontal Hold, in the upper right there should be, Upload Photos. :yes:

I have to agree with Telecolor. I've gone to the Member's Photo Gallery, clicked on Horizontal Hold on the left and then find in the upper right corner "latest uploaded photo." This is the only use of the word "upload." I cannot find any instructions to upload photos.

-Steve D.

Eric H 04-09-2005 12:03 PM

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Once you're in Horiz Hold you have to log in again, top upper right. When you're logged in then you'll see the upload photos button.

Eric H 04-09-2005 12:07 PM

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Once your logged in it kicks you back to the main gallery page, you have to go back in Horiz Hold (or wherever you want) and the upload link will be there.

Actually I guess you can log in from the main gallery page and then go to Horiz Hold but I already made the pictures showing it the other way around :D

Not sure why it works this way but it does.

bgadow 04-09-2005 09:36 PM

The first couple times after the photo pages came back up I had to log in but now it is automatic so maybe whatever cookie or whatever there is must have taken hold.

andy 04-10-2005 11:16 AM

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Chad Hauris 04-10-2005 01:32 PM

I uploaded files over 200 k to the image gallery a few weeks ago...there is no file size limit there so far as I know...the only place where there is a limit is when a photo is included in a message thread. You might try uploading the banana to the Horizontal Hold section of the photo gallery again.

RetroHacker 04-10-2005 11:05 PM

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OK, Here's the photo that reeferman sent me, resized to fit in the board. I also cropped out the slide on the screen and saved it as it's own image. It's kinda washed out, but there wasn't a lot I could do to clean it up. I guess it's hard to take a photo of a projector screen.

-Ian

blue_lateral 04-11-2005 03:28 AM

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blue banana?

heathkit tv 04-11-2005 07:46 AM

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How the heck did you make that nammy blue? LOL! I know some gals that can make something of mine the same color :naughty:

Below is a picture and a quote from this site:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver...radios/tv.html
"Back in the days when the NTSC color TV system was being developed, a test color transmission of some fruit was done. Some practical joker took the bananas and painted them blue. In the NTSC color system, the color (more precisely chroma) is encoded onto a subcarrier, the phase indicating which color. Yellow 180o out of phase yields blue. The guy at the receiving test site would adjust the phase (commonly called "tint") to get the bananas right, but then the rest of the fruit would be wrong! "

old_tv_nut 04-11-2005 02:53 PM

RCA established a laboratory in Astoria, Long Island, three miles from the
transmitter at the Empire State Building, where companies could bring
receivers for testing. One night in April, 1953 the RCA Princeton labs were
conducting critical tests with test patterns, while receiver engineers asked
repeatedly for live pictures. When the transmitter became available about
12:30 a.m., the engineers requested that live talent and some fruit be
televised. George Brown of RCA noticed a can of blue paint nearby, and
hastily painted the bananas blue. The receiver engineers spent a half hour
unsuccessfully trying to get all the colors correct.[1] An apocryphal story
tells of one manufacturer's crew (Zenith) at Astoria who were so certain of their
receiver design that they turned off the set, said "They have the phase
wrong!", and went to a late dinner while waiting for the studio to correct
their error.

[1] George H. Brown, "And Part of Which I Was", Angus Cupar Publishers,
Princeton NJ, Revised Ed. 1982, pp.225-226

blue_lateral 04-12-2005 12:05 AM

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How the heck did you make that nammy blue? LOL! I know some gals that can make something of mine the same color
:lmao:

I just opened it up in the Gimp and replaced all the yellow with blue. I must have been really bored Sunday night....

jc

heathkit tv 04-12-2005 01:28 PM

WTF is Gimp?

RetroHacker 04-12-2005 02:07 PM

GNU Image Manipulation Program. It's a wonderful and very powerful graphics editing program, and it's open source too. Thouse of us that use Linux are familliar with it, think of it as almost and open source Photoshop. The GIMP runs in, and can be compiled for, most variants of UNIX, and I belive it even runs on Windows too. I don't use Windows so I haven't used that port of it though.

-Ian


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