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Eric H

07-12-2005 11:29 PM

CT-100 on eBay!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ory=73374&rd=1

vintagecollect

07-13-2005 03:07 AM

Rare find!!

Wow, what a rare opportunity to own a CT-100 ready to watch and well taken care of!! Great photo shows fully operational condition and nice collection of related historical material. Well worth the price considering total investment needed to bring basket case version back to life. Shame I live too far....

yagosaga

07-13-2005 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobgary

Heh heh. The TV isn't "ready to watch." While the "photo shows fully operational condition," it isn't. The picture of it on is from 1992. If you read carefully, you'll see that the set has problems, although they may be totally correctable. The guy placed his CT-100 up for sale over a year ago (and the text in his auction is exactly the same from the last time). Bidding went to over $4000. Then I don't remember what happened. Either he had an auction reserve that was never met or he just pulled the auction. There doesn't appear a reserve this time, so maybe he's now prepared to let the thing go for at the least his starting bid, which has been met. I suspect the 15GP22 may have done what they are prone to do......

The set was on ebay from Sep-24-04 thru Oct-04-04, item number 5722503800. It was gone (or not?) for US $2,800.00 (Reserve not met). The text is not exactly the same. Is is declared as in working condition, but with two exceptions: the hue control is frozen in position and the color killer does not open the chroma channel. If one bids on it, one will expect a working color set with a black and white picture. There is no indication that the 15GP22 was aired.

yagosaga

07-13-2005 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobgary

If that were the case, the guy could have easily posted a very recent picture of the set in operation. Instead what we have is a 12 year old picture, displaying an image that the text admits isn't the true current state.

I have already asked him before two hours for a recent picture of the working set. (Don't worry, I don't have the money to bid on it.)

pustelniakr

07-13-2005 12:57 PM

Man! Don't that just purdy?

Appears to be some SERIOUS unobtainium in that there picture box, otherwise, I might just be tempted. :D

Rich P

John Folsom

07-13-2005 03:40 PM

I recently had a 15" color set shipped from New Hampshire to Florida for $350, residence to residence. They pick it up and put it on a pallet. So I expect you could ship this CT100 for much less than the sellers estimate. The agent I used is Florida Moving Systems, http://www.flmove.com/ (321) 259 4330 , ask for Mike Stadt, and he can give quote you a price. They can set up a move for any from/to destination in teh USA. And tell Mike I said "hi".

Good luck, hope one of you Audiokarmites gets the set. Everyone should have a CT100!

Sandy G

07-13-2005 03:44 PM

I'd LOVE to have it, but I expect it'll go for close to $4K, & that's about $3.5K more than my mommy will let me spend...Waaaaaaahhh..-Sandy G.

blue_lateral

07-13-2005 04:02 PM

I think so too, I remember reading it in some old RCA book. I can't seem to find it now.

Perhaps one of the 15g experts can tell us if this is really true?

jc

pustelniakr

07-13-2005 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobgary

When you ship a CT-100, doesn't the CRT need to be removed? I thought I read somewhere that even when they were new, the CRT was shipped separate from the rest, and final assembly took place at the store. Shipping the thing with the CRT installed seems rather risky.

With all that unobtainium in there, you could ship that CRT in a box filled with wadded dollar bills for packing material, and still come out ahead :)

Rich P

pustelniakr

07-13-2005 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobgary

Are you suggesting that the auction is a hoax, and the guy won't deliver the goods?

Not at all. If it works you are way ahead. If it doesn't, well...

Critical repair parts being unobtainable, expense to ship such critical parts should not be questioned. Spend the money necessary to have the unit, and any parts needed to be shipped separately, survive being drop-kicked out of the plane.

This puppy is going to command a lot of green. I sure would want lots of info and recent pics (esp. showing live action), before I would bid. It is a beauty, but I would want more than a beautiful paperweight for all that green.

Rich P

Dave A

07-13-2005 08:43 PM

RCA varied the delivery throughout the short life of the CT-100. Some were delivered in three parts. Cabinet/chassis/CRT. Some came complete.

Dave A

Tim	07-13-2005 10:03 PM

As Dave mentioned, the installation Instructions I have mention that the Yoke, Purity Coil and Kinescope mounting components were shipped in a carton in the bottom of the cabinet. The CRT was matched to the set and shipped in a separate carton. Reference marks on the yoke and neck assisted the installer in positioning those components correctly.

Steve D.

07-13-2005 11:13 PM

I've known the seller of this CT-100, Craig, for many years. He is a very up front guy.

-Steve D.

Jonathan

07-13-2005 11:55 PM

Wow, that set is a beauty.... only if I had the money....

yagosaga

07-14-2005 01:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobgary

Why should the guy send you recent pictures of the set if you don't have any intention on bidding?

I have asked him for permission to put the photo on AK and he gave it.The set was swichted on yesterday at appr. 7 o'clock p.m. (European time). Craig wrote:

Now that there are bids, eBay does not allow revising/adding
photos. But I did just turn on the set (for the first time in a year)
and it is working - after warm-up of a minute or two, with good
sound and picture, as you can see, there is some color on some
channels; also some picture noise (lines thru picture) on some
channels, which can be due to a dirty tuner (has not been
cleaned since I have owned it) or maybe one of the vacuum
tubes. By the way, I had hooked up my cable TV line to the set
and perhaps it would be better with a regular antenna like in the
good old days! Anyway it is working,...

domfjbrown

07-14-2005 05:09 AM

Whoever wins this should put that vacu-seal stuff on the CRT immediately then, I guess :)

I just wish the UK had more interesting "old-skool" colour sets - 1967 Baird tellies don't look half as nice as a CT100 or CTC4...

Mind you, I'd love to see a mirror-in-lid colour set - shame one never existed!

CincinnatiBoy

07-14-2005 04:58 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESE%3AIT&rd=1

On Jul-14-05 at 05:52:50 PDT, seller added the following information:
Forgot to mention: original owner who restored was a pro who supplied the Smithsonian Institution with their CT-100. He told me that long ago (way before I bought) he treated the picture tube with something called vacu-seal which I believe prevents corrosion which could lead to loss of vacuum seal, so the 15GP22 has been well protected. Also, I turned the set on yesterday (6-13-05) and both picture and sound work. I took four screen shots and will email them to anyone who wants to see (click the ask seller a question link to email me).

domfjbrown

07-15-2005 06:48 AM

Sweet! Well that solves that one then - excellent :)

mkerdman

07-19-2005 04:30 PM

CT-100 Buy on Ebay at $3,150

At $3,150 in the condition it’s in, along with the extras it comes with, and, knowing I have Steve Kissinger, TV Restorer Extraordinaire, nearby here in CA whose specialty is early color sets to service it, I feel pretty comfortable he’ll be able to get and keep it going in full “Living Color” for a good long time to come and I’ll be very happy indeed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ory=73374&rd=1

Murray Kerdman

mkerdman

07-19-2005 06:30 PM

Gee, I hope I didn't come off as gloating???

OK, maybe a little over-enthusiastic, but, at least I didn't put in any dancing smileys.

Steve McVoy at ETF has (2) CT-100's and without a doubt the best real world, hands-on, fully restored and WORKING collection of TV's anywhere.

If anybody has any CT-100 transportation suggestions (with contact numbers and email addresses) from Cincinnati to Los Angeles, I'd love to hear them.

Murray Kerdman
[email protected]

polaraman

07-19-2005 06:44 PM

I would pack the 15GP22 in a separate carton. Maybe fly and get that part yourself.

polaraman

mkerdman

07-19-2005 07:01 PM

The seller does want to remove the CRT from the set.

He makes a good point that it was shipped to him in 1991 across 2,000+ miles in a train with the CRT mounted and secured in place with a special support at the rear.

Once you have the CRT in your hands, now how are you going to pack and ship it?

Unlike a small 7-10 inch tube, packing the CT-100's CRT in the TV is reasonable.

I'll probably have it put in/on a crate / pallet and trucked by one carrier or another.

Murray Kerdman

mkerdman

07-19-2005 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobgary

My biggest fear is that even if the CRT survives the transport to California, it may lose its vacuum from a mechanical shock in shipment. Not sure if such a loss is a catastrophic event or it begins slowly. The seller mentions that a former owner "treated the picture tube with something called vacu-seal..." Don't take that statement as biblical, and have the tube examined once it's removed. Perhaps consult with your friend Steve Kissinger on the proper preparation and shipment of this treasure. In fact, since you were willing to spend the money to get the set, you may want to fly him out to Cincinnati to handle everything. Have an expert take care of this.

Bob

Something to think about to be sure.

I had a Pre-War set sent cross country in truck, plastic, bubble and blanket wrapped placed on a dolly and tied off to one spot in teh truck the entire way with the CRT in place without a problem.

I would not want this to be my first hard lesson though.

Murray Kerdman

Sandy G

07-19-2005 08:34 PM

Murray- Congrats on yr "new" prize !! I'm sure a lot of us here will kinda be on "pins 'n' needles" til you get it safely home. Keeps us informed...Good Luck...-Sandy G.

vintagecollect

07-20-2005 01:27 AM

Take time & do careful research for best shipping option for CRT as most of TV's value tied to this one part. Good luck and keep us posted with pics!!!

:)

yagosaga

07-20-2005 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkerdman

I have Steve Kissinger, TV Restorer Extraordinaire, nearby here in CA whose specialty is early color sets to service it, I feel pretty comfortable he’ll be able to get and keep it going in full “Living Color” for a good long time to come

Did you asked Steve before bidding on the set that he must fix it and did he agree?

frenchy

07-20-2005 05:19 AM

I recently saw another collector's collection and he had a CT-100 in a back room and I didn't know he had one and wow, what a shock, never saw one before, really neat looking. I always refer to them as the first real 'flat screen' tv!
Hope you get yours in good shape and is working...Frenchy

mkerdman

07-20-2005 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yagosaga

Did you asked Steve before bidding on the set that he must fix it and did he agree?

Yes. LOL

Murray Kerdman

yagosaga

07-20-2005 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkerdman

LOL

Wer zuletzt lacht, lacht am besten.

bolly

07-20-2005 10:08 AM

Quote:

Wer zuletzt lacht, lacht am besten.

:lmao:

mkerdman

07-20-2005 11:51 AM

Besides Craters and Freighters, does anyone have any suggestions, based on good prior experience, as to any other "fine furniture and collectibles" trucking services to transport the CT-100 from Cincinnati to Los Angeles?

Murray Kerdman

mkerdman

07-20-2005 12:27 PM

Hey that's an idea- U-Haul Road Trip!

Nah.

Murray Kerdman

Steve McVoy

07-20-2005 01:52 PM

I've used Eric's Shipping Service several times with excellent results:

www.machinemover.com

mkerdman

07-20-2005 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve McVoy

I've used Eric's Shipping Service several times with excellent results:

www.machinemover.com

So have I Steve.

I was just looking for any alternatives as Eric's schedule can vary quite a bit, extending the time from pick-up to delivery considerably.

Murray Kerdman

mkerdman

07-20-2005 11:16 PM

Does anyone have some old documentation that states the net (of packaging) weight of the RCA CT-100?

Thanks in advance!

Murray Kerdman

Steve D.

07-20-2005 11:49 PM

Murray,

The RCA CT-100 weights 175 lbs. Including the 15GP22 picture tube.

-Steve D.

mkerdman

07-20-2005 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve D.

Murray,

The RCA CT-100 weights 175 lbs. Including the 15GP22 picture tube.

-Steve D.

Thanks Steve!

Murray Kerdman

yagosaga

07-21-2005 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkerdman

I was just looking for any alternatives

The best alternative is to fetch the set in Cincinnati by yourself and bring it to CA. Don't forget to remove the 15GP22 and crate it carefully. All other alternatives are russian roulette. You can let shipping any other set but not the ct-100.

avalon1308

07-21-2005 01:10 PM

Something strange is happening to me. I had been bidding on the CT-100 and of course did not get it.

I've been offered a second chance to buy the set from Ebay.Looks like the original buyer does not want it.
I am extremely surprised, and have lots of doubts about this transaction. I am of course willing to buy but!!!.

Would like to have advise from you people. I am not really used to ebay and do not know what to do. This is very very strange. Is this new offer authentic.
Thanks for any info.

Steve McVoy

07-21-2005 01:13 PM

I think this is a scam, and the offer doesn't come from the seller. As you can see, you were way down the list of bidders. I was the underbidder, and haven't been offered the set. If the offer was real, the seller would have contacted the underbidder first, since my bid was only a few dollars below the winner.

Also, I know the buyer and he is very serious, and is making arrangements for shipping the set now.

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