What's up with all these BUSTED CRTs ???
 

This must be the 10th TV on eBay lately with a busted tube... In all the years I have been in TVs, I never ran into so MANY snapped necks. Is this some kind of a communist plot :scratch2: ???

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Zenith-C...QQcmdZViewItem

Charles

Bidding starts at $99 for a set with a busted CRT, She is gonna need a lot of work + a rebuilt CRT to get it going again.

Perhaps they're just saving the trouble of having it happen during shipping.

David

That's the exact set that I hauled home from Denver last month. Mine doesn't have all that "Patina" and I got it for $40.00. It's uses the 22T20 chassis with a pair of 5U4's and push pull 6AQ5's for audio output. I'm missing the back if anyone knows of one laying around.

That looks exactly like the Flash Matic but without the remote parts.

The sellers listing is incredibly pompus. :rolleyes:

"What is patina? If an object is described as having a fine patina it's usually meant as a compliment. If something is said to lack patina, it usually means the object lacks character. Patina is everything that happens to an object over the course of time." :puke:

But hey, they're a "Top 1000 Reviewer" so what do I know.

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That would make my CTC-31 a "Deluxe" model then :) - It came not only with water ring stains, but it has the very rare cigarette burn option. Perhaps I should put it on ebay and be sure overuse the word "rare" in the description. :P

That one's CRT has been busted so long looks like all the phosphorus has flaked off the inside of the screen...Even if it DIDN'T have a busted CRT, anyone else think it's just a bit, well, "Fugly" anyhow...? No disrespect intended, Randy...

A blonde set very similar to the one in the auction, but complete with intact CRT, spilled out of John Horrock's van at the last ETF convention (anybody who's ever attendended is familiar with the way they just keep coming like clowns out of a clown car :) ). I'm actually fond of that style mask and would like to have one of these, but never have the luck to run across one in the plainer style (to me, more attractive) cabinet.

I dont know about ebay but someone is grabbing every gun/yoke you can find when TV's get set off at the dump. I NEVER saw this until all the factories closed down and all the work went away. Now a dumpsite is like a trading post of sorts. Rarely can you drop off something without seeing at least one guy loading his truck. I think some make a living off of scrap metal which is why all the crts are now broken. I think what they want is the copper from the yoke so I believe they just snap the whole gun and everything off. Can't see any other reason why someone would want EVERY one of them. I saw 4 sets of various age tonight. All snapped necks....

Darn, wouldnt we all feel stupid if there was gold or silver in the electron guns? :yes:

The price of copper is way way up bet thats why they are after the yokes.

I think people just dont know how to haul them. They throw them in the back of a truck, not face down or anything, with all the other crap thay bought at the estate. Then it's on ebay with a broken tube and "It works but I don't have an antenna" :rolleyes:

I am sure some people are taking them for copper.
I have a hard time not hating those poop for brains guys that think on such a small scale. All the things to do in the world and they want to destroy good things for 2 cents worth of raw material. Even a roundie color yoke probably only has like 25 cents worth of copper if you took it to the scrapper.
I am confronted with similar dumdums so much that I appreciate this forum all the more as everybody on here is at least trying to learn something constructive aside from helping others in many ways.
I am trying to be more considerate towards the ignorant people in the world but it is so hard because they are behind every problem this world has.

They're climbing telephone poles out here in the California desert, CUTTING AND STEALING the cables for copper!!!!!!!! Once in awhile a dead guy is seen at the base of a pole with both arms burned off. If they go to that extreme, it's no wonder they go to the dump and bust the yokes off old TVs. An article in the paper last year when we had the Ventura County fire, said the copper guys were right on the heels of the firemen to pick up all the wire that had been on burnt poles. It was a bonanza for them, because the insulation was already off thanks to the fire, so they could sell it for more bare!

If I had nothing but money and time, I'd put out an ad campaign to all metal recyclers, city dumps, and thrift stores... I wouldn't quote collector prices, but I would "guarantee to pay much much more than scrap value" for certain very old TVs.

Charles

The REAL money is getting the palladium out of catalytic converters in 1975-and-later cars...

I like Charles' idea. That's the way I think.

I din't know about palladium. I sometimes go to a Ft. Lauderdale junk yard and every car gets the converter cut off which made me mad as hell when I needed one for my old BMW! I finally got the 7" crack welded very nicely. The junk yard guys are typical in lack of knowledge and they cut anything off the exhaust that might be a converter and ruin many used exhaust systems that could help hard working people who can't afford new stuff. New catalytic converters are temporary junk unless they are factory replacements. I bet most of those aftermarket converters don't even have palladium in them. Lower quality manufacturers seem to get away with murder quite often.

This was mentioned in a forum for electricians. That scrap yards in CA get a reward around a $1K from the power company for turning in anyone who shows up with power company wire. That the scrap yard knows what power company telephone pole wire looks like.

Heard that some scrap wire gets sent to China or other countries that don't have an EPA so that the locals set the stuff on fire to burn off the insulation.

A few years ago I had a moderately large quantity of old 50 conductor phone cable I tossed into the recycling bucket along with the soda cans. The recyclier picked it up, was a bit unsure what to do, but took it anyway. My town does "comingled" recycling. Sometimes I'll strip apart dead VCRs and such, and toss the plastic cabinet and steel frames in with the soda and soup cans and glass jars in the recycling bucket.

Hope they don't find out about the gold in Zenith tuners.

I forgot about that!
We need to screen the new members and ban any potential scrappers from this inside info!

I apologize for not being more careful in how I speak of those who are not fortunate enough to have been educated properly as those ignorant people were once children who were not properly tended to and it is understandable for them to risk thier lives to feed themselves and thier children.

No offense taken! Climbing a phone pole to steal the copper wire is not only grand theft, it is vandalism, and could easily be manslaughter if they cut the power to a house with a person in a breathing machine, or if they cut the phone lines so someone dies because they can't get an ambulance.

"poop for brains" is a VERY kind way to put it in fact!

Charles

Guys who are so low to steal copper power lines deserve getting zapped, IMHO. Look around you-the are 17 bazillion Mexicans here ! Why do they come here ? FOR THE JOBS !! Get off yer lazy arse, get a job, & then you WON'T have to steal copper wire to survive...

busted crts
 

I fix up and sell used appliances in addition to working a regular job. It has been harder to find them also. The junk collectors are snapping them up and selling them for scrap. I have a couple of places I get them from and I have to call about every other day to see if they have anything or it will be gone in no time. If the junk guys see them out back they just grab them. Sometimes the stores plan to fix them up themselves. I always ask before taking them. I cant see how they are making any money doing this with gas at 3.00 a gallon. Makes me mad. I want to say go get a job like the rest of us.
John.

For awhile there, I guess it was late 90s or so, I could not give scrap metal away & had to start paying a man to take it. It wasn't worth the price of gas to haul it up to the yard. Now the scrap man stops by once or twice a week just hoping I have something. I recently wanted a cheap bicycle and he had 3 on the truck-2 of them had nothing wrong with them, just jump on them and ride! I had to give him 5 bucks for the group. One of the scrap metal buyers called me the other day practically begging me to let him come down and haul my stuff away, and he would pay me for it to boot. Well, he wasn't around a few years back so the old gentleman who showed up when it was worthless still gets it.

Don't forget that was when gas was lest then $1.50 per gallon

I wish that aluminum cans would be worth more... And newspapers. I save our cans, and when I haul a pickup truck full of (un-crushed) cans in plastic bags down to the recycler, I get about $40. That's for about 150 lbs of cans, which take us a couple years to accumulate. Seems to me that the year's effort and storage is worth more than $40.

Charles