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bandersen 02-18-2010 06:49 PM

Philco 38-7CS restoration
 
I picked this radio up along with a couple others a few months ago.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2577/...640cf5aa_b.jpg


I've been slowly looking for parts ever since and Larry Bordonaro from Old Time Replications came through with some really nice knobs :banana:

http://www.bobandersen.com/images/ph...-7cs/06-01.jpg http://www.bobandersen.com/images/ph...-7cs/06-02.jpg

The only minor issue is that these knobs are plastic and won't hold up to a lot of use I think. I'm going to try to pop the bushing out of that mismatched wooden knob and insert into the new one.
http://www.bobandersen.com/images/ph...-7cs/06-04.jpg http://www.bobandersen.com/images/ph...-7cs/06-03.jpg

Reece 02-19-2010 12:47 PM

Not sure why you think the plastic knob would stand less use than the wooden one? I would have thought the opposite? :headscrat

bandersen 02-19-2010 02:46 PM

The wooden knob has a brass/bronze bushing. The plastic one doesn't.

The conecentric tuning is a weird mechanism. The original knob would have been bakelite with a spring behind it. You push it down hard so it rides against the knurled ring around the dial face then you rotate it. That's the 'fine-tuning' So the knob both slides up and down and rotates on that brass shaft.

I bet the original knob wore out from use and they substituted the wooden one. I've tried this knob briefly and while it looks great it seems like the plastic rubbing on metal won't hold up.

This video shows how it works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VIknHBh3J0

Reece 02-20-2010 05:10 PM

I didn't realize this had the conecentric tuning. That was a strange setup and as you noted, only used for a short time, but well worth preserving as part of Philco history. I'm sure you can back up the plastic knob with metal to take the force.

bandersen 03-24-2010 11:21 PM

38-7CS for sale on the bay
 
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Looks like the concentric tuner is in good shape with the original knobs. Plus no crappy turntable hacked into it like mine!

It's great to have all these nice reference photos of an unmodified one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ANTIQUE-...mZ150425611885

bandersen 08-20-2010 11:33 PM

I scored a Philco 38-4 tonight :banana: It's a little rough - speaker and grill are missing, some veneer damage, refinished in poly, etc. I picked it up real cheap and my initial thoughts are to scavenge parts for my 38-7CS.

Particularly, the original bakelite knobs and return spring, can capacitors and volume control. All of which are missing or damaged in the 38-7CS

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/...9096bdda_z.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/...86a120af_z.jpg

I figure the 38-7CS is rarer and deserves a little TLC (7,700 vs 52,500 made).
Whatever I don't need, I'm planning on giving away for free.

bandersen 08-24-2011 06:09 PM

It's finally time to tackle the modified 38-7 chairside I picked up over two years ago. I was in pretty good condition except that someone hacked in a 78 rpm turntable :(

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2514/...5e953bb277.jpg

I decided that had to go. First, I stripped the cabinet. Then, patched in the hole with a combination of wood and filler. Finally, some new bookmatched veneer was applied.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6081/...aaccc48f44.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6195/...ea03a2cfef.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6066/...33e082b460.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6076/...a510d0773b.jpg

No more hole :D
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6077/...7a5dd241e6.jpg

Electronic M 08-24-2011 08:42 PM

I bought one of these at the MARC Extravaganza donation auction this year, and had no idea that it was rare. Mine is a bit down it the restoration cue as the dial glass is smashed, the top is groved, the metal bezzle is bent, and some of the knobs are missing.
I'll be following this thread with interest.

Tom C.

bandersen 08-24-2011 10:26 PM

They made 7,750 according to Philcoradio.com. No idea how many are left, but I've seen at least a dozen others since I got mine.

I still have the entire cone-centric assembly including dial glass and bezel from the 38-4. Assuming I get the 38-7 tuning working properly, I won't be needing it.

Electronic M 08-24-2011 11:18 PM

Glad you want to hang on to them for a while 'cause I'm broke now, but later when you know you don't need the parts that I do, and I decide to start restoring mine lets make a deal.

Tom C.

bandersen 08-26-2011 02:49 PM

I've spent today filling in the grain. Kind of a PITA with the changing grain orientation as the recommend technique is to wipe off the excess going against the grain.
I ended up going at a 45 degree angle where the alternating orientations meet. It's not filled in quite as fully as I'd like but it's not bad.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6090/...149c0dbc_z.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6066/...ac898be9_z.jpg

Reece 08-26-2011 05:20 PM

You got that stuff in the red cup from Starbucks, didn't you. :yes:

leadlike 08-26-2011 09:22 PM

What are you using for filler? Did you mix it with stain first?

bandersen 08-26-2011 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece (Post 3012471)
You got that stuff in the red cup from Starbucks, didn't you. :yes:

:D Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever had Starbucks coffee before :scratch2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by leadlike (Post 3012481)
What are you using for filler? Did you mix it with stain first?

Constantine's paste walnut grain filler. It's oil based and quite dark out of the can. I just thinned it with some mineral spirits as indicated. It took about 30 minutes to set up hard enough to start rubbing off the excess.

Electronic M 08-26-2011 10:57 PM

When your coffee is like tar or grain filler it is time to get it elsewhere.

What is the purpose/effect of grain filler?


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