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old_tv_nut 09-30-2010 08:56 PM

Feb 59 what to watch on your color roundie
 
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Get $100 or more for your old TV, then watch these shows in color -

Electrohome 09-30-2010 09:15 PM

2 of these shows still have color copies on 2-inch tape.
 
I can list these shows that still have surviving color video tapes-
-The Steve Allen Show
-The Ford Show
Other color shows listed here survive as B&W kinescopes
-The Price Is Right
-The Perry Como Show
-The Milton Berle Show
-Truth Or Consequences
-Haggis Baggis
-Hallmark Hall Of Fame
The other color shows as seen here for 2/1959, a few of these
may also exist as well. This would require some research at The Paley Center, The UCLA Film & Television Archive, The Museum Of Broadcast Comminucations and films/video tapes in private collections as well.
These color shows were either live or taped on to 2-inch quad video tape. These are NBC shows as seen by the NBC Peacock on this TV schedule.
This also really indicates our efforts to preserving America's TV heritage as well.

NewVista 09-30-2010 10:20 PM

Haggis Baggis what a great name for a show . Never heard of it.

Joel Cairo 10-01-2010 01:50 AM

The Fred Astaire special that is listed also survives on 2" color tape, as do some episodes of the Dinah Shore Show.

- Kevin

vinljnkie 10-03-2010 11:41 AM

I have a copy of the Fred Astaire special on DVD, it's called An Evening with Fred Astaire. The show is posted on you tube in 6 parts. It was historic as being the first edited color show broadcast from color video tape. They physically had to cut and splice the tape to edit it. Any other shows broadcast from color tape previous to this show were taped as live. Here is the link to segment 1 of this show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSSCFuJTX1c A link to a wikipedia article about the show http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_even...h_fred_astaire

Joel Cairo 10-03-2010 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vinljnkie (Post 2984154)
I have a copy of the Fred Astaire special on DVD, it's called An Evening with Fred Astaire. The show is posted on you tube in 6 parts. It was historic as being the first edited color show broadcast from color video tape. They physically had to cut and splice the tape to edit it. Any other shows broadcast from color tape previous to this show were taped as live. Here is the link to segment 1 of this show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSSCFuJTX1c A link to a wikipedia article about the show http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_even...h_fred_astaire

Actually, "An Evening with Fred Astaire" was initially broadcast live to the East Coast, and the telecast was replayed via color tape for the West Coast, three hours later. There was no editing to that program.

It is **possible** that parts were pre-taped and then "played-in" to the show during the hour (most likely, the Chrysler/Plymouth commercials), but that hasn't been verified.

The 2nd and 3rd Astaire specials ("Another Evening with Fred Astaire" and "Astaire Time") were pre-taped, however.

- Kevin

RitchieMars 10-04-2010 12:03 AM

Strange that these are from February of '59... Buddy Holly was my hero, so I guess that would have been a pretty dreary time for me. :tears:

W.B. 10-04-2010 04:00 PM

Would this have been for Washington, DC? I know of only one Channel 9 that would have had Early Shows and Late Shows, and that would have been what was then WTOP-TV (now WUSA). I presume this means the Channel 4 would've been WRC-TV.

NewVista 10-04-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vinljnkie (Post 2984154)

Maybe this was recorded on an Ampex VR1000 modified for color by RCA engineers?

W.B. 10-05-2010 12:57 PM

Probably . . . but then An Evening . . . was produced one year after RCA introduced their own "television tape" recorder, TRT-1A.

old_tv_nut 10-05-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by W.B. (Post 2984247)
Would this have been for Washington, DC? I know of only one Channel 9 that would have had Early Shows and Late Shows, and that would have been what was then WTOP-TV (now WUSA). I presume this means the Channel 4 would've been WRC-TV.

It came from a seller in North Carolina, who did not identify what city it was from. The internet says that Channel 9 (CBS) in DC transmitted tests first of the CBS field sequential system and later of the RCA/NTSC system. However, the only other reference I found is to the start of color newscasts in 1966. So, maybe they had some color film capability in 1959.

vinljnkie 10-05-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joel Cairo (Post 2984201)
Actually, "An Evening with Fred Astaire" was initially broadcast live to the East Coast, and the telecast was replayed via color tape for the West Coast, three hours later. There was no editing to that program.

It is **possible** that parts were pre-taped and then "played-in" to the show during the hour (most likely, the Chrysler/Plymouth commercials), but that hasn't been verified.

The 2nd and 3rd Astaire specials ("Another Evening with Fred Astaire" and "Astaire Time") were pre-taped, however.

- Kevin

That's not what wikipedia says about the show. The original introduction to the show from the 1958 broadcast was edited with clips of the performances of the various guest stars as they were announced as well as segments of the upcoming routines that would be seen later in the show. Also there were edited clips of the previously seen Chrysler commercials that were done during the show inserted into the end credits. This edited intro and ending were removed for subsequent broadcasts. Here is the original intro and ending for the show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJMKTNYG1wA

Eric H 10-05-2010 06:14 PM

The quality of this is amazing.

Many TV shows from the 70's and 80's were videotaped on more modern equipment and they don't look nearly as good, in fact they look awful!

NewVista 10-05-2010 09:50 PM

Dancing clips in the intro (to live show?) could have been from rehearsals. That would be clever.

David Roper 10-05-2010 10:23 PM

Watch the video in the link above and it will be immediately clear that the wiki article is based on a cleverly edited clip which originally appeared on Kris Trexler's site before YouTube was even invented. The clip certainly would have make a great intro, but its time had not yet come in 1958.

There's a reason why wiki has dubious reputation of accuracy.


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