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bandersen 10-17-2010 12:15 AM

RCA U70 UHF Converter
 
I decided to take a break from my GE 810 project and take a quick look at this guy. It a top of the line RCA U70 UHF converter.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/...7e9175c6_z.jpg

There's some separation in the upper right, but otherwise it's in good condition.
I wonder what the UHF jack in the lower left and the RCA jack center bottom are for :scratch2:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/...b57930ce_z.jpg

Most converters just have a 6AF4 oscillator and converter tube, but this adds two 6CB6 amplification stages.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/...3a2795a2_b.jpg

It's also very well built. Check out the tuning cavity. Several slugs move in and out of coils when turning the dial.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/...dc32eecd_z.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/...33808b4a_z.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4085/...a64b26ea_z.jpg

Heavily shielded 6AF4 tube.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4089/...07826b9e_z.jpg

Just a 3-section electrolytic to deal with. Not a single paper cap.
Does anyone have a schematic ?

bandersen 10-17-2010 12:25 AM

I found this old VK thread with some good info http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=39714

bandersen 10-17-2010 04:32 AM

After a quick recap and new 6CB6s, it's working fairly well. I was able to pick up four analog UHF stations.

Here it is hooked up to my Sentinel 430 and tuned to MeTV. That's a network that broadcasts classic TV shows and movies.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/...4a0690a6_z.jpg

Reece 10-17-2010 10:09 AM

That is a hefty unit, power xfrmr and 5Y3 rectifier, no details spared. Nice pix on TV. This is the sort of thing you'll find for sale that people think is a radio, "powers up, but can't get any sound out of it."

jr_tech 10-17-2010 11:06 AM

Nice! I played with one of these units about a year ago... the UHF antenna terminal on the back did not appear to work... the only way I could get a picture was by using the SMA connector on the back as the UHF input. I assume that yours is working ok with the "normal" connection of the stacked bow-tie to the 300 ohm UHF terminals?

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment...3&d=1257137839

jr

bandersen 10-17-2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2985079)
That is a hefty unit, power xfrmr and 5Y3 rectifier, no details spared. Nice pix on TV. This is the sort of thing you'll find for sale that people think is a radio, "powers up, but can't get any sound out of it."

Yeah, I have three other UHF converters that all use selenium rectifiers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_tech (Post 2985082)
Nice! I played with one of these units about a year ago... the UHF antenna terminal on the back did not appear to work... the only way I could get a picture was by using the SMA connector on the back as the UHF input. I assume that yours is working ok with the "normal" connection of the stacked bow-tie to the 300 ohm UHF terminals?
jr

Ah, so that's a UHF input on the back. Any idea what the RCA jack is for ? Maybe VHF input ?

Yes, I'm using the 300 ohm UHF terminals.

jr_tech 10-17-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 2985092)

Ah, so that's a UHF input on the back. Any idea what the RCA jack is for ? Maybe VHF input ?

Yes, I'm using the 300 ohm UHF terminals.

Ok, thanks! I could get nothing through the "normal" 300 ohm UHF input terminals. I don't think that the SMA connector was intended to be the antenna input, but that was the only way I could get a signal through the converter. :scratch2:
I believe that the RCA connector was right at the mixer diode, before the amplifier stages.
jr

Jeffhs 11-27-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 2985072)
After a quick recap and new 6CB6s, it's working fairly well. I was able to pick up four analog UHF stations.

Here it is hooked up to my Sentinel 430 and tuned to MeTV. That's a network that broadcasts classic TV shows and movies.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/...4a0690a6_z.jpg

I'm amazed there are any analog TV stations left in the US. Until I saw your post (and one from radiotron), I thought all analog TV in this country had disappeared forever. I live near Cleveland, and all of the city's TV stations, with no exceptions in town, are digital. There was one analog translator in an outlying suburb that carried a religious station on channel 51, but I don't know if that station is still around. The same goes for the three UHF translators carrying the PBS station in Cleveland, although they might still be on until 2015 (the year, exact date escapes me, by which all translators and low-power TV stations must convert to digital) for those viewers still using antennas.

Your Sentinel TV and MeTV sound like a perfect match -- a retro-TV channel viewed on a vintage television receiver that was new when most of MeTV's now-classic shows were new as well.

Do you get Antenna TV in Chicago as well as MeTV? If so (in Chicago, I would think one of the VHF network stations should have it on a subchannel), that network will provide even more good retro programming for your Sentinel 430. I've been watching both networks since they arrived on subchannels of channels 8 (FOX) and 19 (CBS) in this area, and I enjoy them both as they show almost all the TV programs I grew up watching. One of my favorites is Kojak, which I watched every week on CBS in the early '70s. MeTV shows these programs in reruns at 12:30 a.m. Eastern time, and I think they are on earlier in the evening as well, although the time of the earlier airing escapes me as I write this.

DavidGoncalv 11-27-2012 03:54 PM

Thread is from two years ago.

jr_tech 11-27-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidGoncalv (Post 3055216)
Thread is from two years ago.

Very true, but this thread was referenced in a more recent thread:

http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=256471

Now we can get stuck in a loop, stuck in a loop, stuck in a loop. :)

jr

bandersen 11-27-2012 05:08 PM

It may be two years old, but we still have analog broadcasts in Chicago :) I just did a fresh scan and found analog broadcasts on channels 6, 23, 34 and 41.

wa2ise 11-27-2012 08:19 PM

I suppose you could use this UHF converter to downconvert ATSC DTV UHF TV stations and set the ATSC converter box to channel 6. I tried it and I did get a few DTV stations coming in on channel 6, though as we all know DTV is kinda fussy to get to work. You could place this UHF converter next to a HDTV, feeding it, flat panel, and amuse your friends by tuning the UHF converter to get stations in Hi Def.

jr_tech 11-27-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wa2ise (Post 3055230)
I suppose you could use this UHF converter to downconvert ATSC DTV UHF TV stations and set the ATSC converter box to channel 6. I tried it and I did get a few DTV stations coming in on channel 6, though as we all know DTV is kinda fussy to get to work. You could place this UHF converter next to a HDTV, feeding it, flat panel, and amuse your friends by tuning the UHF converter to get stations in Hi Def.

Wow! I tried the same experiment and could not get anything out of the DTV converter... I figured that I did not have enough signal (outdoor antenna about 12 miles to the transmitter) to overcome the terrible noise figure of the old UHF converter, or perhaps the UHF converter was not stable enough.

jr

josephdaniel 11-27-2012 08:54 PM

Slightly off topic here but i turned through the dial of sever of my tvs and I pick up about 7 channels all of them are rebroadcasts of the cw (the seem to have several low power transmitters going so they can cover a larger area) and one or two was religious or PBS couldn't really tell too much static.

DavGoodlin 11-30-2012 02:00 PM

Bob, That is one of the BEST indoor vintage UHF antennas you're using there. I had several of those and gave them all away with sets I sold.

BTW , I cannot find any analog in Southeastern PA or Maryland


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