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bandersen 03-05-2011 08:54 PM

Claremont 10XP4 CRT
 
Some of you may have seen this picture tube listed on eBay. Well, I'm the one that took a chance on it.

It arrived safe and sound although the box is in rough shape.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5011/...a75ac710_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5219/...f48d10b9_z.jpg

The only mark or label on the CRT is a "10X" written in marker.
Anyone know what this tube is ? Perhaps experimental ?

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/...c11eaed8_b.jpg

I tried testing it as a 10BP4, but had to drop the bias from -52 to -36 to get the cutoff in the black box. It test very strong and has an excellent life test.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/...f86db03e_b.jpg

jr_tech 03-05-2011 09:21 PM

Sure looks like an electrostatic focus gun to me, but no extra connection... focus element could be tied internally to the 1st anode (G2 in some nomenclature).
jr

Eric H 03-05-2011 09:58 PM

It sure looks like it has some Xtra parts to the gun?

bandersen 03-05-2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric H (Post 2996843)
It sure looks like it has some Xtra parts to the gun?

It sure does. Here's a closeup of the gun.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5054/...02b22909_b.jpg

Here's a 10BP4 for comparison.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5020/...c48b2124_b.jpg

jr_tech 03-05-2011 10:36 PM

It sure appears to have a split second anode with a short focus element between the two sections, similar to the DuMont gun that I posted on another thread:

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment...5&d=1298095247

I can't see if the focus is tied to the first anode, however. :scratch2:
jr

Q: How does the overall length compare two a 10BP4? It looks like the gun is pretty long.

Eric H 03-05-2011 10:53 PM

I guess the next step would be to put it in a working set and see what happens?

bandersen 03-06-2011 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_tech (Post 2996850)
It sure appears to have a split second anode with a short focus element between the two sections, similar to the DuMont gun that I posted on another thread:

I can't see if the focus is tied to the first anode, however. :scratch2:
jr

Q: How does the overall length compare two a 10BP4? It looks like the gun is pretty long.

It's actually about 1/2 " shorter than a 10BP4.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric H (Post 2996852)
I guess the next step would be to put it in a working set and see what happens?

Sure thing. I suppose I'll have to put the focus coil off to the side if this CRT really does have electrostatic focus.

cbenham 03-06-2011 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 2996854)
It's actually about 1/2 " shorter than a 10BP4.
Sure thing. I suppose I'll have to put the focus coil off to the side if this CRT really does have electrostatic focus.

Is it aluminized?

Cliff

bandersen 03-06-2011 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbenham (Post 2996856)
Is it aluminized?

Cliff

Nope, but I wish it was.

John Marinello 03-06-2011 09:10 AM

I'd try it with the focus coil in place. I didn't have to remove the focus coil
when I used the 5AXP4 in my 16GP4 Zenith.

bandersen 03-11-2011 11:52 PM

I pulled out one of my trusty Admiral chassis tonight and gave this CRT a try.

Here it is with a 10BP4 receiving a local LP VHF broadcast.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5177/...97dfa40d_z.jpg

Here it is with the 10XP4 installed along with the same focus coil and dual-section ion trap magnet as the 10BP4
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5131/...da4fdd4f_z.jpg

I think the focus coil has to go.
Luckily, I had enough slack to slide it of the CRT and put it to the side.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/...e2a0e6d8_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5178/...4c6fce5c_z.jpg

That definitely helped, but it was still a little fuzzy. Maybe a single section magnet would work better :scratch2:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5096/...b16b7d90_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/...ff0d38bf_z.jpg

Yes, definitely. Not perfect, but I have a few magnets more I can try.
Just as soon as I can remember where I put them that is :o

I still have no idea what this CRT is all about, but it's bright and seems to be usable :)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/...00f6f814_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5255/...a93a8b77_z.jpg

Chris K 11-18-2024 05:18 PM

Hi Bob…were you ever able to get this to work? I have the same brand, NIB CRT and I’m wondering if you made it a useable picture tube 10BP4 substitute

bandersen 11-18-2024 05:26 PM

No, I never did anything more with it. I'm pretty sure it is supposed to be a drop in replacement for a 10BP4. Could be there is something wrong with mine.

Chris K 11-18-2024 09:33 PM

I haven’t been able to get it to focus as a substitute in several focus coil TVs. Very similar smearing and soft focus you had. Same situation obviously with tested performance. It’s a magnificent tube and I tried it in my Admiral but couldn’t get it to focus with and without the focus coil. Weird

bandersen 11-18-2024 10:01 PM

Maybe it is electrostatic focus. I don't recall if it has an extra pin for focus. If it does, it needs to be connected to ground or a few 100 volts.


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