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bandersen 07-27-2012 05:17 PM

Motorola 14P3 restoration
 
I picked up this set along with some other vintage gear a few months ago and promptly forgot about it. A few days ago I was cleaning out the garage and stumbled across it. I figured this was a good a time as any to take a closer look.

It sure is dirty :yuck:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8429/7...28794cd2_z.jpg

Specifically, it's a Y14P3-2. The -X part indicates the cabinet style.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7273/7...8aa06137_z.jpg

I'm not sure if any of these are the correct knobs.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7...af46362d_z.jpg

It's looking a little more respectable after some cleaning.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7247/7...17d61eff_z.jpg

bandersen 07-27-2012 05:23 PM

Here's what I found inside. Aside from some dirt and cat hair, it looks OK.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7114/7...0eb11ee3_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8434/7...34e8a27e_z.jpg

Time to check that 14RP4 CRT.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7121/7...06322ba0_z.jpg

Uh-oh!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7270/7...9686f1f3_z.jpg

Eric H 07-27-2012 06:17 PM

Ah shoot, the tube is dead, well guess you'll just have to part it out now.
I'll take the safety screen. :D

Are you sure it's a RP4? I have the old 14QP4 from my Philco Transitone, it's kind of weak but it makes a pretty good picture.

bandersen 07-27-2012 07:16 PM

Oh, I'm not giving up that easily! The filament is glowing nicely - there are just no emissions. So I tried the old cathode re-welding trick and after about a dozen whacks got it to stick :)

Yes, it sure is a 14RP4. Those "lumps" on the top and bottom seem kinda odd.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8148/7...58325957_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7123/7...799faba9_z.jpg

There's not much to this set and I hope to fire it up later tonight :yes:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8166/7...dc1da258_z.jpg

bandersen 07-27-2012 08:47 PM

If anyone is curious, this is the cathode welding procedure I used.

http://www.videokarma.org/showpost.p...4&postcount=30

Eric H 07-27-2012 09:12 PM

Cool, you got it working, I wonder if those Lumps are there to give the glass some strength? Looks like an early attempt at a higher angle deflection tube.

I have this same set in Pink, it almost works, at least it lights up fully but doesn't seem to pick up anything.

zenithfan1 07-27-2012 09:20 PM

I've seen those lumps on several Zenith sets I've worked on, I too have wondered what they're for.

Good job on getting that tube going, the CR 70 is awesome. Looking forward to seeing that CRT light up.

bandersen 07-28-2012 12:24 AM

I finished a quick recap and tried to power up the set - nothing. I traced through the filament string and eventually found a tube that wasn't seated fully.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7132/7...71e9c17b_z.jpg

Bingo! I have a nice bright raster :) Now to try feeding in some signals.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8027/7...ea2a4573_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8023/7...e8f1c15a_z.jpg

Boobtubeman 07-28-2012 12:31 AM

got the 14 inch motorola as well, lumpy 14 inch tube awesome picture. heck i got 2 more 14 inch crts in the garage on a pair of emersons i never fixed due to lack of caps and knobs..

SR

bandersen 07-28-2012 12:54 AM

It's not the greatest picture, but I'm getting there :D
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8282/7...7e5a2918_z.jpg

mstaton 07-28-2012 12:56 AM

That's a neat little set. Glad you got that CRT working again!

Boobtubeman 07-28-2012 02:06 AM

Other than reception its hella sweet mine has a small ripple in the pic, then again i didnt change that main silver electrolytic because its hard to tell which pin is which the print is faded and hard to tell the shapes appart..

SR

snelson903 07-28-2012 03:07 AM

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hay im glad to see you do that ,iv had a motorola for some time that the crt is dead like that and i have been keeping it hoping some day to run across another crt that good, can that procedure be done using a b k 467 or sencore 133 if so id like to try to bring back to life. 17cfp4 crt the label says, i dont know why someone bent the tuner cover up like that, i just put it away after testing the crt . i just checked the crt and woke it up and wiggled the horz. osc. tube around and it came on. looks like just needs recap and tube sockets replaced or tightened up.

earlyfilm 07-28-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by snelson903 (Post 3043152)
. . . . . i dont know why someone bent the tuner cover up like that . . . . . .

Back in the day, everyone used big-can spray tuner cleaner, and they obviously misplaced their little squirting tube before doing this set.

This butchery is very common on tuners where the cover was soldered in place for better shielding.

holmesuser01 07-28-2012 09:31 AM

I've worked on lots of sets that were missing the tuner covers. If I had one that would fit, I'd put one on before the set left me.

The things that some shops did... Amazing.

Glad you got the little Motorola going. I saw few B/W Motorolas in my time.


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