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Kevin Kuehn 12-28-2012 08:13 PM

Zenith Model 5119
 
I fired up my 1964 Zenith for the first time last week since I acquired it last winter. Pictures of it in operation after I replaced the blue and green driver tubes and ran through the gray scale adjustment. The FBP CRT tests strong on all three guns. Set uses a 25LC30 chassis. Oops, I just noticed I didn't have the on/off-volume knob on for the pictures.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/q...hRoundy003.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/q...hRoundy001.jpg


http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/q...hRoundy002.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/q...hRoundy004.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/q...hRoundy008.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/q...hRoundy005.jpg

compucat 12-28-2012 09:07 PM

Nice set. I have the 1965 version with UHF in the same cabinet, 25MC33 chassis. I probably need to check my color driver tubes because I get green flashes on the screen for about 10 minutes until it warms up.

Mal Fuller 12-29-2012 08:01 AM

In your caption you reference a "FBP CRT."
I hope not. Your set requires a 21FJP22 for the safety of its laminated safety glass. The 21FBP22 is for installation in sets which have a separate safety glass in front of the CRT.

nasadowsk 12-29-2012 08:56 AM

No.

It could be an FBP - Zeniths had a conformal safety glass that made it LOOK like an FJP, but it's not. It has a rubber gasket that outgasses and leaks oil over the years. It looks just like an FJP in the cabinet - you can't tell, but it really is an FBP.

Mal Fuller 12-29-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nasadowsk (Post 3057739)
No.

It could be an FBP - Zeniths had a conformal safety glass that made it LOOK like an FJP, but it's not. It has a rubber gasket that outgasses and leaks oil over the years. It looks just like an FJP in the cabinet - you can't tell, but it really is an FBP.

Better an oil leaking and gassy gasket than an unsightly cataract, I would say.

Kevin Kuehn 12-29-2012 10:45 AM

I'm pretty confident it's an FBP. I stole this service manual picture off of ebay. The 5119 is listed as having a FBP.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/q...LC30manual.jpg

Sandy G 12-29-2012 11:06 AM

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dieseljeep 12-29-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn (Post 3057744)
I'm pretty confident it's an FBP. I stole this service manual picture off of ebay. The 5119 is listed as having a FBP.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/q...LC30manual.jpg

In RCA and Zenith sets, the lower priced sets used non-bonded CRT's.
I, personally like it better that way. :yes:

Kevin Kuehn 12-29-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3057757)
In RCA and Zenith sets, the lower priced sets used non-bonded CRT's.
I, personally like it better that way. :yes:

It would certainly be a lot easier for us now days if they were all non bonded. Interesting that some of the real wood RCA cabinets actually had the non bonded.

marty59 12-29-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mal Fuller (Post 3057737)
In your caption you reference a "FBP CRT."
I hope not. Your set requires a 21FJP22 for the safety of its laminated safety glass. The 21FBP22 is for installation in sets which have a separate safety glass in front of the CRT.

Here's a safety glass for a Zenith with the FB tube. They are thicker and have that glossy/shiny appearance. The FJ's are thinner, yet bonded with a satin/low gloss look.

reeferman 12-29-2012 11:04 PM

Ah...the joys of changing a non-bonded tube like for like, firing it up, then discovering dirt between the CRT and face plate!
Personally, I was glad (no, ecstatic) when the non-bonded types were replaced by the bonded types in the aftermarket supply chain. :banana:
Phil

Tom S 12-30-2012 08:06 AM

Very nice Keven, I now have a Zenith itch to scratch.

dieseljeep 12-30-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by marty59 (Post 3057775)
Here's a safety glass for a Zenith with the FB tube. They are thicker and have that glossy/shiny appearance. The FJ's are thinner, yet bonded with a satin/low gloss look.

I think the thinner glass used on the bonded CRT's is not tempered. The resin was the implosion protection.
When removing the nasty resin from a CRT with a cataract condition and reinstalling with a silicone resin around the diameter, all implosion protection is lost. :no:

Kevin Kuehn 12-30-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3057805)
I think the thinner glass used on the bonded CRT's is not tempered. The resin was the implosion protection.
When removing the nasty resin from a CRT with a cataract condition and reinstalling with a silicone resin around the diameter, all implosion protection is lost. :no:

That's a scary thought, considering how many FJP's have been modified in that way.

marty59 12-30-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3057805)
I think the thinner glass used on the bonded CRT's is not tempered. The resin was the implosion protection.
When removing the nasty resin from a CRT with a cataract condition and reinstalling with a silicone resin around the diameter, all implosion protection is lost. :no:

Yep! I'd agree.

And I don't believe any one of us here would get mad at a football game and throw a brick at the set either!! :D


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