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Robb 09-16-2013 09:29 PM

Early Admiral on Kijiji Toronto
 
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http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ524161984

$450


TV - Antique (Vintage) - Vintage Retro or Mid Century Modern 1940's Admiral Bakelite TV; An original black and white floor model television; made by Canadian Admiral Corporation Ltd., Malton, Ontario. Dimensions are:16 in. wide, 32 in. tall, 18 in. deep; Model No. 24A12X; it is a 25 cycle television, but works on 60 cycle 117 volt AC; The front has a Horizontal/Vertical Adjstment Knob, a Contrast/Brightness knob, a Off/Volume/Focus knob, and a Channel/Sharp tuning settings Knob (this is the missing knob). The back has Vertical Line, Height, Horizontal Lock, Horizontal , Horizonatal Line and Horizontal Width settings. It has an original label intact.; No. 132400 CSA AFP No. 9720. It turns on, tubes light up; IT WORKS; Please call or text 905-687-2875.

bandersen 09-16-2013 10:14 PM

I love the huge 25Hz transformer :) Here's the 60Hz version.

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment...7&d=1379384944 http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4071/4...0f216d1b4d.jpg

Tom Albrecht 09-17-2013 02:40 AM

Wow, that would make the 25 Hz version another 15 lbs heavier!

Jon A. 09-17-2013 04:02 AM

I had never heard of 25-cycle power. I don't think even a restored one of these would go for that much. That transformer is something else though. Imagine dropping that on your foot.

6GH8cowboy 09-17-2013 06:35 AM

Fishing expedition.

Kamakiri 09-17-2013 07:34 AM

All of Canada had 25 cycle power, as opposed to 60 cycle, until the mid-60s or so IIRC. I had a CTC-5 with an outboard transformer setup that was made to handle 25 cycle power....it was bought in the US and transported over.

You can use 25 cycle stuff on 60 cycle current, but not the other way around.

electroking 09-17-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamakiri (Post 3082431)
All of Canada had 25 cycle power, as opposed to 60 cycle, until the mid-60s or so IIRC. I had a CTC-5 with an outboard transformer setup that was made to handle 25 cycle power....it was bought in the US and transported over.

You can use 25 cycle stuff on 60 cycle current, but not the other way around.

Definitely not all of Canada had 25 Hz in 1960. Some regions did have
it until the mid sixties as you say, but I believe for instance that Montreal
never had anything other than 60 Hz once AC power became available.
I do have a Motorola clock radio (with AA5 electronics) designed for
25 Hz. Have been thinking of building a 60-to-25 Hz converter just to
run that radio, but it remains a project.

Kamakiri 09-17-2013 08:48 AM

You don't have to build a converter. Just plug it in. Being in Buffalo, we get quite a few radios from Canada that come this way that have 25 hz transformers.

dieseljeep 09-17-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamakiri (Post 3082440)
You don't have to build a converter. Just plug it in. Being in Buffalo, we get quite a few radios from Canada that come this way that have 25 hz transformers.

The radio has double filtering for 25 HZ. It's a regular AC/DC type AA5 with an electric clock.
The rotor will have to be replaced in the clock, as it will run really fast.

Robb 09-17-2013 09:31 AM

Because the TV is 25hz, will it consume more power or less ?

electroking 09-17-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 3082445)
Because the TV is 25hz, will it consume more power or less ?

Maybe a tiny bit more due to the losses in extra filter capacitors, but
should probably be insignificant.

Regarding my earlier post, there is the obvious problem with the
clock. Some people have told me that a 25 Hz clock powered at
60 Hz will run really fast, others that it will not run at all. Of course
the clock may not be in working order in the first place.

dieseljeep 09-17-2013 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electroking (Post 3082448)
Maybe a tiny bit more due to the losses in extra filter capacitors, but
should probably be insignificant.

Regarding my earlier post, there is the obvious problem with the
clock. Some people have told me that a 25 Hz clock powered at
60 Hz will run really fast, others that it will not run at all. Of course
the clock may not be in working order in the first place.

AC operated clock motors are a synchronous design and are frequency sensitive. That's the reason, that electric clocks are so accurate.
Telechron built clocks for 25,40,50 and 60hz. The rotors had all different gear ratios.

Eric H 09-17-2013 12:30 PM

Can you imagine the Flicker of light bulbs at 25 Hz?

Jon A. 09-17-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3082454)
AC operated clock motors are a synchronous design and are frequency sensitive. That's the reason, that electric clocks are so accurate.
Telechron built clocks for 25,40,50 and 60hz. The rotors had all different gear ratios.

Got to get a rotor for my Telechron oddity. Never knew those depended on the pulse of the AC line.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric H (Post 3082462)
Can you imagine the Flicker of light bulbs at 25 Hz?

No, but I would like to see it.

electroking 09-17-2013 02:54 PM

Has anybody actually seen the flicker at 25 Hz with incandescent bulbs? With
a powerful hi-fi amp and an audio generator, you could do some experiments.
I would not expect that 50 Hz flicker to be perceptible (don't forget there are
two zero crossings per cycle).


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