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wa2ise 10-12-2014 06:55 PM

Garage sale find: GE P1700A 10 transistor
 
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It works! 10 transistors, a few are used in questionable purposes (or maybe my radio knowledge has gaps!) :scratch2: One is a "rejection regulator", its collector tied to the local oscillator coil tap, the base and emitter tied to ground (seems that transistor would do nothing like that, well maybe the base-collector junction would act like a diode to clip excessive oscillator amplitude and via emitter follower action clip excessive radio station amplitude). Another transistor is a detector diode. And another looks to be a temperature compensator for the audio output transistors. The first IF amp is a grounded base amplifier configuration, the first IF "transformer is actually a series LC circuit that would be what you'd use to drive a low impedance emitter. The converter transistor feeds a tap on the coil section.

This radio uses that strange circuit board technology GE liked back in the late 60's. A single sided board with plated thru holes. This radio shows up in the 1966 Beitman's.

Celt 10-12-2014 08:22 PM

As you already know...it wasn't uncommon back then to use 6 transistor circuits and stuff them with useless transistors.
Bragging rights you know.

wa2ise 10-12-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Celt (Post 3117072)
...it wasn't uncommon back then to use 6 transistor circuits and stuff them with useless transistors.

Here's one where they ran up the count from 7 to 12:
http://www.wa2ise.com/radios/starfire12.jpg
They soldered in pairs of transistors (base to base, emitter to emitter, collector to collector) most everywhere. The transistor with the lower b-e drop in such pairs will be the only one that does the work... Or it it's close, one will still take say 80% of the current. Still, it doesn't get you any more performance.

wa2ise 10-12-2014 10:23 PM

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And here's the schematic: I highlighted the "extra" transistors in yellow.
http://videokarma.org/attachment.php...1&d=1413170480
The first IF amp does look like a good circuit, possibly high gain with minimal self oscillation instabilities. They're also using it as an AVC amplifier for the 2nd IF amp.

Celt 10-13-2014 07:38 AM

Maybe they were trying to "polish the pig"... ;)


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