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Palinurus 08-30-2019 11:49 PM

Curtis Mathes Console Schematic
 
I recently picked up a 1963 Curtis Mathes console model AG2A23, and need a schematic for it but can't find it listed on SAMS. Does anyone know whether it goes by another model number? The only number on the chassis is 168153 which is engraved in it. Below are a couple of pictures.


https://www.curtis-mathes.com/apps/p...toid=117223300
https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00028307/00771/10j

Thanks in advance.

Tom9589 08-31-2019 08:42 AM

Looking at the CM ad I got to wondering exactly what a “color convertible” is. The price seems too low to be a true color set. Also, I don’t know of any 24” color CRT.

Palinurus 08-31-2019 10:42 AM

Mine's a 23-inch black & white. I did a little research, and back then Curtis Mathes was using RCA chassis in their consoles. Still the only number on the chassis that I have is the engraved number which doesn't correspond to anything that I can find.

Bill R 09-03-2019 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom9589 (Post 3214369)
Looking at the CM ad I got to wondering exactly what a “color convertible” is. The price seems too low to be a true color set. Also, I don’t know of any 24” color CRT.

It was mostly marketing. The deal was if you go ahead and buy the black and white model, it could be updated later to a color set. There was a conversion where you would remove the old chassis, face plate and CRT. Then replace it with a new color CRT, face plate, and chassis. I have never seen one that was converted, but I'm sure someone likely did it. Given the reliability of our CM set of the time, it would have been better to just buy a new color set and be done with it.

zeno 09-04-2019 08:36 AM

For manual you need a Sams collection. Go through all CM sets
from the apx date built for say 2 yrs. Wont be very many. You
should find one close. If its a real RCA & they used there chassis
number the format is KCS-###. Also post a few chassis pictures &
maybe we can ID it.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

dieseljeep 09-04-2019 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeno (Post 3214531)
For manual you need a Sams collection. Go through all CM sets
from the apx date built for say 2 yrs. Wont be very many. You
should find one close. If its a real RCA & they used there chassis
number the format is KCS-###. Also post a few chassis pictures &
maybe we can ID it.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

All the C/M B/W sets were built by them! Really not that bad.
Their earlier color sets were RCA chassis.
Some B/W chassis, the radio P/S was part of the TV chassis. The radio had it's own P/S in the better models.

dieseljeep 09-04-2019 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill R (Post 3214519)
It was mostly marketing. The deal was if you go ahead and buy the black and white model, it could be updated later to a color set. There was a conversion where you would remove the old chassis, face plate and CRT. Then replace it with a new color CRT, face plate, and chassis. I have never seen one that was converted, but I'm sure someone likely did it. Given the reliability of our CM set of the time, it would have been better to just buy a new color set and be done with it.

One of my repair customers had a higher end 23" Zenith B/W combo, around a 1964 model. The dealer told them that it could be converted to color later.
I told them, yes and no! The B/W chassis would have to be gutted and maybe a 22" Zenith table model could be fitted.
The 22" Zenith had lousy CRT's. :scratch2:


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