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Konrad Schiecke 11-02-2006 12:23 PM

Carbon Composition Resistors
 
Does anyone have a source for 2 watt carbon composition resistors? Sources like Allied Electronics and Mouser Electronics just have up to 1 watt.

Thanks
konrad

old_tv_nut 11-02-2006 09:18 PM

Hi Konnie - I don't have a source, but I'm curious - do you need them to duplicate the appearance in something?
-Wayne B

skippy_ps 11-02-2006 09:43 PM

Tubedepot has a pretty good selection. $2.95 each.

Murray

Konrad Schiecke 11-03-2006 08:05 AM

Carbon Composition Resistors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by old_tv_nut
Hi Konnie - I don't have a source, but I'm curious - do you need them to duplicate the appearance in something?
-Wayne B

Hello Wayne B, I need them not for appearance but for functionality. Carbon Composition are the only type resistors that will take high voltage arcs. Film types will track across their surface. This is based on 40 years experience in TV design of high voltage circuits.
konrad

Konrad Schiecke 11-03-2006 11:33 AM

Carbon composition resistors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy_ps
Tubedepot has a pretty good selection. $2.95 each.

Murray

Thanks for the lead Murray. Unfortunately at that price and the amount of these used in the old 7 inch sets I would be broke in no time.
Konrad

RetroHacker 11-03-2006 01:14 PM

Will wirewound resistors work? Jameco has a great selection of 5w wirewound ceramic resistors for 36 cents each. Mostly lower values though - I think the highest value I saw was 3k or so. I never heard about an application where carbon film resistors were inferior to the old carbon composite resistors. But I do know how the carbon composites like to drift...

What about metal film?

-Ian

skippy_ps 11-03-2006 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrad Schiecke
Thanks for the lead Murray. Unfortunately at that price and the amount of these used in the old 7 inch sets I would be broke in no time.
Konrad

Lol. I needed a close matched pair for a tube amp and bought 4 or 5 12k I think and couldn't get close enough. Gave up and used metal film.

Murray

blue_lateral 11-03-2006 03:59 PM

I doubt you will do much better than that. I have bought several 1 watt "Ohmite Little Demon" carbon comps from Digi-Key, and they were right around two-dollars. Those are still in production. I suspect 2 watt is not. Good luck.

John

Lefty 11-03-2006 04:53 PM

What are the max working voltages of most types of resistors. I've always read that standard carbon were good only to 500V, true?

Lefty

blue_lateral 11-03-2006 05:36 PM

I don't remember, but I think that is correct. I think the 500v is for half watt, and that is the reason you dont see many 1/4 watt carbons in tube equipment (250v?). It goes up with wattage. sometimes they are strung in series to put less potential across each resistor.

In the old days, I think carbons were often pressed past these ratings.,That, the lack of inductance, and carbon comp's ability to take fairly high current surges without damage, are 3 reasons it might be a good idea to put carbon comp back in equipment that was designed around carbon comp.

Someone (Ohmite maybe?) makes some funky carbon-ceramic things that are supposed to replace higher-wattage carbon comp. I havent tried them.

John

Chad Hauris 11-03-2006 06:42 PM

I remember there used to be a type called "RCA Flameproof Resistors" and the body was blue. These seemed to be high quality and did come it 2 watt size I think. Am not sure what these used as a resistance element though,

jaymanaa 11-03-2006 07:22 PM

The blue "flameproofs" I use are WW. Murray, On the matching of CCs, I've heard it helps to bake them in the oven at the lowest setting overnite. Never tried it though.

skippy_ps 11-03-2006 08:12 PM

I tried that but they didn't taste any better.

Murray

Tubejunke 11-04-2006 01:27 AM

I can get you ceramic composition 2 watt resistors for around a buck and a half. Some more/some less. These resistors are replacements for the expensive carbon jobs. I can get you anything from 3.3 ohms to 1 meg. The 2 watt ceramics withstand up to 700 volts and utilize 10% tolerance. Hope this helps. PM if interested.

Bob E. 11-07-2006 05:57 PM

Dang, I'm going to have to raise our prices...we've been charging 95 cents a piece for surplus Allen Bradleys...

--Bob


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