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Originally Posted by Einar72

First of all, software folk aren't nerds, they're usually GEEKS. Nerds are lovable, cuddly and always have a DVM handy.

Now, the serious part. If that building were to be demolished, probably NOTHING would rise in its place. American Rust-belt cities are in rapid decay. Twenty-five years of Import-mania have decimated the mightiest industrial empire in history.

I just finished a very busy year at MS, and, let me tell you, there's no difference between what's going on in the software industry today from what went on in manufacturing just two decades ago. EVERY industry that uses software engineers hires H-1B visa workers, usually from India. Now that the quotas are tightening on these, software vendors are OUTSOURCING work to India or Red China. We, as Americans, stand little hope of ever being a great industrial power again. Occasionally, a foreign manufacturer who, through the miracle of politics, puts a plant in the Bumpkin Belt (sorry, Sandy) where wages are traditionally lower, and drives wages (and hope for us elsewhere) further down. It's five to midnight, and noone is there to turn back the clock!

i am afraid you are 100% right.